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You should be banned from LoL for calling the vampire hunter a he!Quote:
Originally Posted by vLife
This is my order of damage output for ADCs (with all items):
Draven>Vayne>Jinx>Ezreal>Varus>Twitch>Lucian>Miss Fortune>Caitlyn>Ashe
I personally hate playing ADC because I cant farm well. Playing on a laptop with 18 fps and a ping 140 doesnt help the cause either.
Vayne requires a lot of skill and patience early game though. You cannot afford to lose your lane, nor can the other lanes, because if you can't go late, she's useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
If you play with Vayne, you need something like an Alistar who can keep you safe, help you farm under tower with Relic when they push in, and heal you up, otherwise it can get very hard, especially with the likes of Cait against you.
Yeah just remembered he is actually a she.
But Vayne really does take damn skill to use. I like using harder champions though, might not be for others. Funny enough I did have to play a Vayne and Alistar combo bot and it didn't go pretty.Once she got farmed up it was gg no re.
Totally right. But that is with almost any adc. You do not want to lose your lane. If you get shutdown, and you know your opponent can pwn you. What one should do is farm jungle too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Slave
I just loved playing vayne. Was my main adc.Quote:
Originally Posted by vLife
Why you miss out tristana.Quote:
Originally Posted by drksage
Only thing is Draven, Vayne and Ezreal all have the potential to have high damage but you need to be very skilled. Catching your axes in a team fight is much harder than when in lane because sometimes your axes can make you move out of position and Ezreal you have to hit your q, every time or he loses out on quite a bit of damage. I would actually move Lucian because he has very high burst and so does caitlyn with her passive procs with a crit.
Totally forgot about Lucian. He is the best in lane and off. Great bully. Is he fixed now? heheh
He got his range reduced but extremely mobile now. His E has no mana cost and the cool down gets reduced by 1 second per bullet of his passive (2 on a champion) so 4 seconds if your passive procs on a champion then you get cool down reduction boots now because Lucian doesn't need the attack speed boots like other adc's so he can have his e up so quick with 2 passive procs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
Is his build the same? Like TF > bortk > AS > whisper > GA?
I normally go ( Not in order) botrk, tf or ghostblade, IE, last whisper and GA's. Ghostblade is pretty good at the moment. Boots of Lucidity are the best boots for him at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
Yea ghostblade active makes him so good at pwn mode( with his ultimate ) . If the enemy team is tanky then go Whisper. Usually I go with GA first. ( used to go )
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
Because Vayne only has her auto attacks to clear, it takes her a long time to clear the wave, most adc's can punish her really bad by pushing in to tower and poking her down.
Most other adc's can clear fast and keep reasonably safe.
Also because Vayne needs to get in close for auto attacks to poke the enemy, you become very easy to target, whereas lots of ADC's have skills they can use to poke from further away etc.
So like I said, you need to farm properly and have a support that can keep you safe, that or have lots of ganks so you can snowball really quickly, just so that you can win the trades, but even then, it's tricky until later in the game.
You too can poke your enemy with vayne, if you know when to go in. Or even win the duel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Slave
Is lee sin still strong? Man I just loved playing him jungle and top =(
Most ADC have much higher poke, to be effective vayne needs to get of 3 hits, a lucian for example will spam couple of spells and do double hits in the same time, you will lose the trade. This goes for almost all ADC, because they simply have higher burst due to spells, where as vayne needs to duel for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
The problem here is usually the support, they will be able to stop vayne from succesfully trading, getting that third hit off, or get a lot of damage in return.
In the end, almost no match up can be won 2v2 with a vayne early game, assuming equal skill.
I did have trist in there before I added twitch :P: Guess I forgot to put my thoughts down, but I believe she is above twitch and a tad bit weaker than a varus. I agree that you have to be very skilled to play champs like draven and vayne, but thats what makes them the best adcs out there (when played right).Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoelace
It doesn't make them the best, it makes them snowball champions, but they are easy to shut down, making them bad adc's. Remember, you get matched up with people your own skill level, this is why you don't see Vayne a lot, because even if you are good, so will they be, and if they are smart, you will loose.