[PS3] Is it worth it?

[ihatehaxor]

[QUOTE=SantaClaus1;3667996]that is untrue i m afraid

this has been all over the net the last few days
Its about the newest Elite versions

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstor...9520-20634547/


Even now with the elite version with falcon chip the failure rate is extremely high...

Not only that but it seems they cant make any proper hardware whitout it overheating
Last year, the company had to recall 230,000 Xbox steering wheels worldwide after complaints that they overheated.

and with the old xbox they spent

[Mreow]

At this point, I'd have to say PS3. I have a 360, though. Go with what your friends are playing, it is always much better if you're playing with friends.

[LightWarrior]

it's nothin to laugh about
and consider yourself lucky

it has nothing to do with not taking care for there console otherwise ps3's and wii's would have the exact same failure rate
its just because of pore developing and rushing an unfinished product into production

Oh please lucky? nah, I bought my 360 with two of my friends and their 360 havent broke either! my friend parker bought the elite when it came out and his hasnt broken either! It's little kids that cant take care of their shits! Just like moms braking windows with the wii remote LOL!

[GohanSSJ]

didnt say it dun have quality games but GoW is the only big hitter.

Again a load of crap, even the most ignorant person on this planet couldn't deny that a game like Halo 3 is a big hitter...

You should check some sale records.
[QUOTE=SantaClaus1;3667996]that is untrue i m afraid

this has been all over the net the last few days
Its about the newest Elite versions

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstor...9520-20634547/


Even now with the elite version with falcon chip the failure rate is extremely high...

Not only that but it seems they cant make any proper hardware whitout it overheating
Last year, the company had to recall 230,000 Xbox steering wheels worldwide after complaints that they overheated.

and with the old xbox they spent

[wounded]

A few other problems I noticed with the Xbox360, but which might have been fixed with the new releases:
- Over heated and froze in-game, even though I had that cooler thing shit for it...which probably made it even hotter if anything.
- Scratched my GOW CD in the same spot..twice, a big nice old circle scratched into the disk.

My PS3 froze once, and I've had it for about 6 months or so, never overheated...can leave it running for a day and it'll still be fine.


But really...in the end, it's what the majority of your friends have. Because most of the games are the same except for a few exclusives, and you won't really have fun playing alone. PS3 is still fairly quiet online, if you're more of a social player, I recommend you go for the XBOX360, which has had a VERY user friendly interface accommodating a lot of friend features...that the PS3 still lacks, but it's getting there (might be too late once it does "get there")

[Gabrieth]

At the speed graphics are evolving and processors getting faster I would say no.

[SantaClaus1]

Oh please lucky? nah, I bought my 360 with two of my friends and their 360 havent broke either! my friend parker bought the elite when it came out and his hasnt broken either! It's little kids that cant take care of their shits! Just like moms braking windows with the wii remote LOL!

yes lucky stop saying bullshit
there is a 30% failure rate with the older models
and there is a more then 10% failure rate with the new models

so that means ur in the 70% of working console's
these r facts
so yes u r lucky

it has nothin to do with little kids not taking care for there console
or ps3 and wii would have a 30% failure rate for the same reason u stated before .... not taking care of it
wich is bullshit
its bad development

stop comparing ur little story of u and a friend to 4 mil ppl who's xbox had broken in less then a year

You should check some sale records.

The fact that this site claims that Microsoft had to recall 230k steering wheels tells me this is a load of shit. What happened was that there was a extremely small chance in the adapter that something could go wrong, so what Microsoft did was offer everyone a new adapter free of charge. That's hardly recalling the whole steering wheel.
Anyway seeing as they are using old numbers and fake numbers in combination of a bunch of stuff that is taken out of context, i'm simply not worried.
I'm on the Xbox.com forums and the amount of 360's breaking have reduced big time, and when i hear about 1 then 9 out of 10 it's a old model.

The games don't get ported, if games were to be ported then they would look absolute shit or run really bad, the hardware is just too different for that.

Anyway the PS3 graphics, just like the 360 graphics can't increase much, or any for that matter. The PS3 chip is even worse then the 360 chip even though it was released a year later. The PS3 chip is basically a Geforce 7800 GT/GTX

first of all u r wrong about the steering wheel
yes the problem only occures when u use the adapter , but the problem is not the adaptor
its a component inside the steering wheel that overheats and start smoking when u use the adaptor
so u can only use it with batteries
thats why they recalled the entire steering wheel and not just the adapter

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/23/mi...moking-wheels/



here is Microsoft's official statement made today on what i posted
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...rumours-419226

again they r trying to minimize the damage
but fact remains there failure rate is extremely high even with there elite version with falcon ship
or they wouldn't do the 3 year warranty on the elite models if they knew the problem didn't appear there (this is just common sence )
that is unacceptable even after more then 2 years that there console is released they still have more then 10 % failure rate


And allot of games do get ported ...
now plz dont make me go and get the list of all games that got ported...
there r dozens just google it
there r even games like um lost planet where they forgot to delete the xbox controller from the option menu

btw xbox 360 gpu is only a few % faster then the ps3's
the ps3 can be compared to 7800 gt
wile the xbox can be compared (in power ) with a x1900gt
all in all its max 10% diffrence
nothing if u know that the ps3's cpu can be used for graphics aswel
and the ps3 cpu is 10 times faster then the xbox

graphics will in prove , u can already see glimpses of it in recent games like mgs4
u should really play true it , ull know what i mean
only now developers r starting to know how to code properly on the ps3

no doubt game's like killzone 2/ ff13/god of war 3/ and that secret project sony was working on that stunt bbc reporters (http://www.psbeyond.com/news/Sonys-s...-2009.315.html ) will show graphicks can inprove

[GohanSSJ]

- Over heated and froze in-game, even though I had that cooler thing shit for it...which probably made it even hotter if anything.

It did indeed, infact it causes serious failures. You should never use them.

- Scratched my GOW CD in the same spot..twice, a big nice old circle scratched into the disk.

Old hitachi drive i'm assuming. They've been putting in proper drives in for a long time now. I still don't know why those drives didn't have the protection that normal drives do have, it costs like 1 cent to put in, and i truely doubt Microsoft gave them the order to save a cent on that.

there is a 30% failure rate with the older models
and there is a more then 10% failure rate with the new models

30% failure? I think not. What happened was that most of these supposed 30% were often the same console. Some people had their 360 "repaired" about 5 times before Microsoft understood why. I'd say 15% is more accurate.

For the 10% current failure rate i like to see some real numbers on that, i'm guessing that the 10% is actually still just mostly the old models breaking down.

first of all u r wrong about the steering wheel
yes the problem only occures when u use the adapter , but the problem is not the adaptor
its a component inside the steering wheel that overheats and start smoking when u use the adaptor
so u can only use it with batteries
thats why they recalled the entire steering wheel and not just the adapter

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/23/mi...moking-wheels/

Seriously, either start reading the links you post, or i'm just going to delete all your crap. I can't be bothered to argue with ignorant people like yourself, especially since people here are asking for what is real, not what you make up yourself.
Microsoft will replace your adapter, not the steering wheel, so stop saying they recalled the whole thing, trust me i would know, as i got a steering wheel with a new adapter. Continue down this path with your nonsense and say bye bye to these posts of yours.

here is Microsoft's official statement made today on what i posted
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...rumours-419226

Again. Stop this bullshit.

"Recent reports in the UK media regarding Xbox 360 contain inaccuracies and pure speculation, as well as news that is a year old.

"Prompted by what Microsoft viewed as an unacceptable number of repairs to Xbox 360 consoles, a year ago Microsoft announced an expansion of its Xbox 360 warranty. Effective 5 July, 2007, any original retail Xbox 360 customer who experiences a general hardware failure indicated by three flashing red lights is covered by a three year warranty from date of purchase, with all other issues remaining covered by the standard one-year warranty."

Like i said, that site is full off it, even says so in that link you posted, however you couldn't be bothered to read it yourself.

And allot of games do get ported ...
now plz dont make me go and get the list of all games that got ported...

Please do. Know this though, if it's a load of crap then i will start deleting your posts here. A little advice before you start looking up names, make sure you understand what a port is.

btw xbox 360 gpu is only a few % faster then the ps3's
the ps3 can be compared to 7800 gt
wile the xbox can be compared (in power ) with a x1900gt
all in all its max 10% diffrence

And more bullshit from you.
The PS3 has a 7800 chip, the 360 has a chip that was never put on a videocard and is more powerful then the x1900gt.
The 360 chip has technology that was developed for the next ATI cards, so it's something in between those cards. It is definitely superior to the nvidia chip.

graphics will in prove , u can already see glimpses of it in recent games like mgs4

They know how the graphics work by now, there isn't much they can do anymore. With titles like MGS4 where they take out everything they can, they simply won't be able to improve really on that.

[Dimes]

xbox 360:

Gears of War
Halo 3
Bioshock - best
Forza Motorsport 2
Perfect Dark Zero


ps3:

Metal Gear Solid 4 - best
Warhawk
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance: Fall of Man
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection


PS3 wins in games. You can say Xbox 360 has more games, but you could also use 'shitty' as an adjective. PS3 games are better quality even though there are less. A lot of 360s top games are arcade, funny.

[SantaClaus1]

It did indeed, infact it causes serious failures. You should never use them.

Old hitachi drive i'm assuming. They've been putting in proper drives in for a long time now. I still don't know why those drives didn't have the protection that normal drives do have, it costs like 1 cent to put in, and i truely doubt Microsoft gave them the order to save a cent on that.

30% failure? I think not. What happened was that most of these supposed 30% were often the same console. Some people had their 360 "repaired" about 5 times before Microsoft understood why. I'd say 15% is more accurate.

For the 10% current failure rate i like to see some real numbers on that, i'm guessing that the 10% is actually still just mostly the old models breaking down.

Seriously, either start reading the links you post, or i'm just going to delete all your crap. I can't be bothered to argue with ignorant people like yourself, especially since people here are asking for what is real, not what you make up yourself.
Microsoft will replace your adapter, not the steering wheel, so stop saying they recalled the whole thing, trust me i would know, as i got a steering wheel with a new adapter. Continue down this path with your nonsense and say bye bye to these posts of yours.

Again. Stop this bullshit.

Like i said, that site is full off it, even says so in that link you posted, however you couldn't be bothered to read it yourself.

Please do. Know this though, if it's a load of crap then i will start deleting your posts here. A little advice before you start looking up names, make sure you understand what a port is.

And more bullshit from you.
The PS3 has a 7800 chip, the 360 has a chip that was never put on a videocard and is more powerful then the x1900gt.
The 360 chip has technology that was developed for the next ATI cards, so it's something in between those cards. It is definitely superior to the nvidia chip.

They know how the graphics work by now, there isn't much they can do anymore. With titles like MGS4 where they take out everything they can, they simply won't be able to improve really on that.

seems like u cant take any critism what so ever
everything i said were facts
but u cant deal with it so u threaten to abuse your powers and delete everything
just like u allways do and just like last time we debated when it ended up u closing the thread and me reporting u for abusing your powers

every single time i post my source u say its bullshit
atleast i post a source and dont pull shit out of my arse like u

to prove my point ill quote it for u

In all seriousness, Microsoft needs to publicly flog their hardware people. Microsoft now reports that they'll be offering a service to retrofit their official Xbox 360 Wireless Racing Wheel following reports that the thing overheats and releases smoke. Unlike their refusal to say what's really wrong with the Xbox 360, Microsoft admits !!!!!!!!!!that A COMPONET IN THE WHEEL overheats !!!!!!!!!!!!when the AC/DC power adapter is used to power the wheel. Microsoft says you should contact them for the retrofit and not use the power adapter, but it's fine to just use the battery. They have also notified the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, no word yet on Microsoft Europe's plan..

it clearly says that its a componet inside the steering wheel , not inside the adaptor
A COMPONET IN THE WHEEL

here is the google link
http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=...rheating&meta=
now go along and read for a change , every single source talks about a componet in the wheel

so what microsoft did was introduce a adaptor wich would not cause the component to overheat
its more cost effective then replacing the steeringwheel al together
somthing microsoft is so good at ...

i dont even know why i am debating u
the reason why it was brought up is just to show how bad microsoft develops there hardware
everybody knows it , its all over the net
yet u allways try and defend them and minimize every faulth they did
there is a word for that u know ... starts with a F and end with a Y


and u say i dont read ... yea right

its clear that u should shut up
cause saying stuff like that site is full of it
or just plain bullshit on every single source shows u r not helping anybody
but just trying to force your own opinion onto ppl

even on stuff like official statements from microsoft u say bullshit , your not worth debating with

oh and 1 more thing how about i just help u out
http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&sa...+games&spell=1

there now u can go and search for all the ported games , cause francly im sick and tired of having to look up everything for u
when u never post a single source but just state your biased opinion

[GohanSSJ]

xbox 360:

Gears of War
Halo 3
Bioshock - best
Forza Motorsport 2
Perfect Dark Zero


ps3:

Metal Gear Solid 4 - best
Warhawk
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance: Fall of Man
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection


PS3 wins in games. You can say Xbox 360 has more games, but you could also use 'shitty' as an adjective. PS3 games are better quality even though there are less. A lot of 360s top games are arcade, funny.

How about Test Drive Unlimited, Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Saints Row etc, and these are just games i own. There are way more quality games, and that's a simple fact.
To proof my point in this, this was in the deleted post from santaclaus.

everything i said were facts

I've given proof that these are not facts, infact he himself pointed that proof, without actually reading the links ofcourse, so that he actually had no idea what he was talking about.

Seeing as i want to keep this topic clean from mis-information, i will delete all his post that clearly show that he doesn't know what he is talking about.


The same goes for other users. By all means support the console you prefer, by all means post what makes you like them, but if you are gonna post about either consoles while not having enough info about them, then just don't bother.

Now ofcourse if you prefer what the PS3 has to offer then it's a simple choice, but the 360 has more quality games based on the opinions of most gamers.

Anyway posts are dissapearing, not because i'm trying to silence people from their opinion, but because it gives a twisted view on reality.

[DonTonberry]

Posts undeleted because he supplied credible sources to back up his statements.

[SantaClaus1]

Posts undeleted because he supplied credible sources to back up his statements.

thank you
at least there is still justice around here

xbox 360:



Gears of War

Halo 3

Bioshock - best

Forza Motorsport 2

Perfect Dark Zero





ps3:



Metal Gear Solid 4 - best

Warhawk

Ninja Gaiden Sigma

Resistance: Fall of Man

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection


PS3 wins in games. You can say Xbox 360 has more games, but you could also use 'shitty' as an adjective. PS3 games are better quality even though there are less. A lot of 360s top games are arcade, funny.

u r forgetting allot of games there on both sides :p
but bioshock 1 of the best games on xbox indeed is being ported to run on ps3 and will be released later this year
the same counts for most quality games for xbox , they never stay exclusive ...i m not talking about them going to ps3 now
but most quality games for xbox get released on PC aswel like halo1/2 // gears of war // bioshock // Mass effect
microsoft is only interested in cash
like how they forced u to buy vista to play Halo 2 when halo 2 was everything but dx 10 and very much capable to run on xp
it was just another stunt to make ppl buy vista

[Laz-low]

Hmm, True, Add me on ps3 friends btw : ProllyDaBest is me :p

Anyway. I hope that sony adds something like the gamer points onto the ps3 :D

My PS3 is getting repaired atm, so it might be a while :P Add me, my PSN is Deniston.

As for the gamerscore system, the PS3 variation is the levels system.

[Mreow]

thank you
at least there is still justice around here



u r forgetting allot of games there on both sides :p
but bioshock 1 of the best games on xbox indeed is being ported to run on ps3 and will be released later this year
the same counts for most quality games for xbox , they never stay exclusive ...i m not talking about them going to ps3 now
but most quality games for xbox get released on PC aswel like halo1/2 // gears of war // bioshock // Mass effect
microsoft is only interested in cash
like how they forced u to buy vista to play Halo 2 when halo 2 was everything but dx 10 and very much capable to run on xp
it was just another stunt to make ppl buy vista

First of all, they never forced you to buy anything.

microsoft is only interested in cash

So is Sony.

everything but dx 10 and very much capable to run on xp

All games are capable of running on XP, oddly enough it's also possible to run Halo 2 on XP too, just with the right tweaking.

but most quality games for xbox get released on PC aswel like halo1/2 // gears of war // bioshock // Mass effect

Yeah, like months later. I got news for ya also, many games get ported from 360 to PS3.

Also I'd like to point out that the PS3 slowed down the release of GTA IV and other games.

Source for GTA IV being pushed back here: http://www.psu.com/Analyst--GTA-IV-d...a000859-p0.php

Not really being pushed back, but CoD4 would've been released earlier (but Infinity Ward wanted to make a true non port game for the PS3.) if they didn't make it for the PS3.

[SantaClaus1]

First of all, they never forced you to buy anything.

.

if u would of red what i said then u would know i said they forced u to buy vista if u wanted to play halo 2 on the pc
and thats exactly the case
yes later ppl made a crack for it to run on xp , that just proves halo 2 dident need dx 10 like microsoft claimed

All games are capable of running on XP, oddly enough it's also possible to run Halo 2 on XP too, just with the right tweaking.

yes they should be , but microsoft intentionally made it so that u could only play halo2 on vista so that u would be forced to buy vista if u wanted to play halo 2 on pc

yes yes there is a crack now ,but just stating what microsoft intended

Yeah, like months later. I got news for ya also, many games get ported from 360 to PS3.

.

yes of course , thats not the point , the point was allot of so called xbox360 exclusive don't stay exclusive

Also I'd like to point out that the PS3 slowed down the release of GTA IV and other games.



Source for GTA IV being pushed back here: http://www.psu.com/Analyst--GTA-IV-d...a000859-p0.php



Not really being pushed back, but CoD4 would've been released earlier (but Infinity Ward wanted to make a true non port game for the PS3.) if they didn't make it for the PS3.

that my friend is bullshit , its just what 1 analyst said its nothin confirmed btw the guy was michael patcher who has been wrong numerous times , here is another claim he did http://www.psu.com/Pachter--EA-has-i...0003295-p0.php
he does allot of them lol

nobody knows why there were so many delays cause rockstar never admitted to any rumors
there r even ppl saying it was because they couldn't fit it onto a dvd and microsoft didn't want 2 dvd's as it would look inferior to the ps3 model

not saying that that was the reason , but there r numerous rumors why it was delayed and rockstar never admitted to any of them





tho it is true that its allot harder to code for the ps3 1 of the reasons being that the cpu is so advanced compared to the other platforms
but the more time progresses the more it will become a benefit as developers will be able to make more complex games for it

[Hublos]

I own a 360, and I would say go with a PS3, I have had enough problems with my 360 like the controller disconnects all the time, so I had to put tape on the back to hold the battery
pack in ON THE FIRST DAY I bought my 360, so that ticked me off, my 360 crashed within the first month I had it, and my headset always gets unplugged by like the tiniest pull, but PS3 not having a lot of people with headsets, well I wouldnt have bought online if it was for talkin to people, I cant just play a game alone, but yet again you would get rid of all those trash talking 8 year old kids who come online just to piss you off by annoying you on your headset.

[Dimes]

How about Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, Saints Row etc, and these are just games i own. There are way more quality games, and that's a simple fact.
To proof my point in this, this was in the deleted post from santaclaus.

I've given proof that these are not facts, infact he himself pointed that proof, without actually reading the links ofcourse, so that he actually had no idea what he was talking about.

Seeing as i want to keep this topic clean from mis-information, i will delete all his post that clearly show that he doesn't know what he is talking about.


The same goes for other users. By all means support the console you prefer, by all means post what makes you like them, but if you are gonna post about either consoles while not having enough info about them, then just don't bother.

Now ofcourse if you prefer what the PS3 has to offer then it's a simple choice, but the 360 has more quality games based on the opinions of most gamers.

Anyway posts are dissapearing, not because i'm trying to silence people from their opinion, but because it gives a twisted view on reality.

- Saints Row was going to be released for Ps3, but it was that shitty they canceled it. SR 2 will be released for PS3.
- Mass Effect is a cool game, but it has many bugs.
- Lost Odyssey kisses FinalFantasy 13's ass.
- Blue Dragon?? How could you even mention that, horrible game.
- Test Drive Unlimited also came out for the PS2, lol.
- Project Gotham doesn't make the 360 great, burnout paradise is better; which is also for both consoles.

Quality? No.

In the post you quoted, I was comparing top titles of each console.

[LightWarrior]

WoW! gohan you've attracted all the fanboys over.....Dime you have fanboy written on your forehead so, please stop.
Ok I did a poll from people in my school, asked all 14 of them who own a 360, how many of them have send theirs to repair. out of 14 of them amazingly (I know this must be LUCK) none of them had. out of 14 of them, 3 had their 360 less than 1 year. The failure rate is old news now, if you go to the xbox forum or gamespot OR IGN, nobody is complaining about anymore

[Regurgitate]

Rather buy XBOX360 then PS3.

[GohanSSJ]

I'm going to close this because there is to much nonsense in this topic and it has all been discussed.

This was about what is currently offered, there are no more issues with the 360 right now, as with the PS3, we could take the recent update as a example to trash the PS3, but there is no point in that, shit happens, at the end of the day if you buy 1 then it will be fine. This is what the creator wanted to know, not the history, even though the 360's history is piss poor, it has no issues right now, 1 source that claims there are problems, who actually use half his story from a year ago, is not a credible source, and should not be a factor in this discussion.

Again we all know their history is piss poor, but that's just it, it's history, just like there have been a lot of bad consoles on both sides in the previous generations.

I think enough info is been given for the user to make a decision, if not he can make a new one with specific questions (even though this topic should have been specific enough to not start a argument about anyones history...), anyone who starts discussing other things will see their posts gone and probably get a infraction aswell.

If you want to debate which is better then i suggest you look up the topic in the debate forum.