Can we add Bloody Ice's extra NPC? Or is it limited only to EP3??
I have been trying to add this using the extra_obj.enc for editing the xmas tree and Chaos Arena entrence but cant seem to get it.
Has anyone been able to do this or have at least tried??
We can't, All NPC's are writed in world_xx.map files"
xx - number of map
I've ever edit world09-npc.scp and add item 1214 1215 1216 Upgrade Core/Force Core/Slot Extender (Highest) in shop. And restart cabal. Nothing add in shop.Originally Posted by maxgo1
How can I correct it?
You can't just add them server side as the client has the data too. You need to edit the shop data in cabal.enc too.
As far as i know you can add npcs as long as both the client and server have the correct data. I have not tried it myself yet bu i plan to over the next day or so.
Ok.
I have also noticed that in the client, we have the names of the new NPC's from EP3. Look, from cabal_msg.enc:
Its just how to enable them server side. I have tried adding the NPC into Bloody Ice using the extra_obj.enc but you have to manually choose a EFX or EBM file for the model. Plus the NPC name doesn't appear.<msg id="npc01-0032" cont="Lady Yekaterina" />
<msg id="npc01-0033" cont="Bodyguard Hurdor" />
<msg id="npc01-0034" cont="Bodyguard Hursurf"/>
This should be simple surely?? (even though I cant figure it out lol )!!
This information is scattered all over the enc files as the positions are in one, the pointers to the text in another, the text itself in a third and so on. For just 1 new NPC several areas will need editing.
Adding the Ep3 NPCs will require similar edits to the ones needed to add the Ep3 items as you will almost certainly find our Jan 2008 cabalmain won't have any references to loading those files. In fact you will probably find the Ep3 NPCs aren't in the 2008 enc files either, we used some newer data when creatign the client patch which is probably where that came from.
Re: Can we add Bloody Ice's extra NPC?
Thanks agian, dear chumpy.
I tried last night before went to bed. Both in world09-npc.scp and cabal.enc It's OK.
Ah forgot to try buying item there
Thank you.
Re: Can we add Bloody Ice's extra NPC?
So you have added an NPC sucessfully??Thanks agian, dear chumpy.
I tried last night before went to bed. Both in world09-npc.scp and cabal.enc It's OK.
Ah forgot to try buying item there
Thank you.
Ooops!
Please delete this post! I didnt look back at his other post!
Last edited by Daman2009; 29-10-09 at 09:21 PM.
Re: Can we add Bloody Ice's extra NPC?
Sorry If I make you misunderstanding.So you have added an NPC sucessfully??
Ooops!
Please delete this post! I didnt look back at his other post!
What I tried to tell Chumpy is "I've tried to add item in NPC Shop and I successed".
I'm just a newbie, really very sorry if I cause you misunderstanding.
Actually i have managed to add objects using extra_obj.enc...
http://forum.ragezone.com/f451/spawn-gate-in-ds-619209/
NPCs are a bit more tricky though and whilst it looks possible i have nto yet got it to work. I am probably having the same problems Daman2009 is, some NPCs simply don't show up and those that do i don't seem to be able to get any dialogs for them. I'm still trying though.
By changing chumpy extra_obj.enc I've added Rune Agent Flasha successfully (only the object, no function-able, no name)
Tried with Agent Lady but failed :(
Here's Flasha SS:
Anybody can give me some explanation about tags and attributes in extra_obj.enc files? Cuz I'm wondering 'bout the value of "pos" and "rotate" attributes.
I had saw a post i don't know from but he had upload his edit NPC with a manule how to make all of this.
Use the Search butten =D
Forum only allowed us to search with keywords longer than 3 letters and ... important keywords for solving this problem is NPC, Map (3 letters only :()
In fact, I tried to search many times with a lot of keywords :(
Than is the surch a lot of work !!!
The forum will block 3 letters and it can't really be helped as fewer than 4 letters will return pretty much the whole forum. Also the database has to work very hard on searches like that which slows the forum down.
object_enc is reasonably simple but the one example in there doesn't make it too clear. The one bundled with 2.81 is a bit simpler to understand as there are 2 different items in there.
Because of a forum bug the numberes in here will get replaced with ****, but you can see the idea.
<extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3****-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/>
<extra_entity type="0" pos="2252,-31,3068" rotate="0,0,0,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/>
<!-- Chaos Arena entrance sign -->
<extra_stuff id="1" filename="object\snow\f_snow_guidace.ebm" min="-170.873,-25.3****-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/>
<extra_entity type="1" pos="1****0,3022" rotate="0,0.707107,0,0.707107" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="1" name="extra_npc_000" npc_id="31" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" />
You must have an extra_stuff entry for each item you want to add so look at the first 2 lines before the chaos arena sign. Important values here are the extra_stuff "id" which is 0 and the object filename, the "min" and "max" don't seem to do anything and every example i have seen in official uses the same values as the ones here.
Line 2 is the item linked to your "stuff id" and you can see it's stuff id is 0. Both lines are linked and every extra_entity must be linked to an extra_stuff entry which you can see with the CA sign (stuff id 1). Line 1 has the object filename and stuff id, line 2 has the position, scale and rotation.
The example posted above is a modded copy of what i found in the v22 extra_obj.enc and added the xmas tree to. This is a really bad example but if you start studying official ones you will see that weird rotate (4 entries for rotate??). Here is the extra objects i added to green despair:
<extra_object world_id="3">
<extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3****-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/>
<extra_entity type="0" pos="20824,0,4240" rotate="0,1,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/>
</extra_object>
Only 1 item, the tree again but only 3 rotation values. This is normal and the 4 values copy is just a bug in the official files i think. Position values for X and Y are multiplied by 100 for precision so my tree is at x208 y42 with 0 being how high off the floor. Disable_cell_radius stps people walking on that many cells around the item which is useful for adding walls.
Hope that helps a bit, that is not a great explanation really but i can't be bothered to type anymore
I'm trying to add Agent Lady with this code:
And here is the result :Code:<extra_stuff ID="2" filename="Character\w1agent.ebm" min="-170.873, -25.3112 -244.727" max="215.379, 650, 172.775" /> <extra_entity type="0" pos="2300, 0, 1800" rotate="0, 180, 0, 0" scale="1, 1, 1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="2" name="extra_npc_002" npc_id="32" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" />
---
Note that :
With "rotate" attribute, when I passed 3 values, I got crash on start. (Please tell ESTsoft about this proiblem.)
Here is this :
But when I added one more zero (0) into "rotate" attribute, everything is ok.Code:<cabal> <version index="1" /> <extra_object world_id="1"> <!-- X'Mas Tree --> <extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="0" pos="2252,-31,3068" rotate="0,0,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/> <extra_stuff id="1" filename="object\snow\f_snow_guidace.ebm" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="1" pos="1115,0,3022" rotate="0.707107,0,0.707107" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="1" name="extra_npc_000" npc_id="31" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" /> </extra_object> </cabal>
Like this :
It means "rotate" with 4 value is not a bug ?Code:<cabal> <version index="1" /> <extra_object world_id="1"> <!-- X'Mas Tree --> <extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="0" pos="2252,-31,3068" rotate="0,0,0,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/> <extra_stuff id="1" filename="object\snow\f_snow_guidace.ebm" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="1" pos="1115,0,3022" rotate="0.707107,0,0.707107,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="1" name="extra_npc_000" npc_id="31" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" /> </extra_object> </cabal>
Last edited by trungnt88; 30-01-10 at 07:32 AM.
v22 uses 3 values for rotate, and also uses different measurements. Change the rotation to "0, 0, 0" and you should see the NPC properly, but facing the opposite direction (if I remember correctly). Just play around with the values. I can't remember if the rotation uses degrees or radians in the v22 client...
Note that :
With "rotate" attribute, when I passed 3 values, I got crash on start. (Please tell ESTsoft about this proiblem.)
Here is this :
But when I added one more zero (0) into "rotate" attribute, everything is ok.Code:<cabal> <version index="1" /> <extra_object world_id="1"> <!-- X'Mas Tree --> <extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="0" pos="2252,-31,3068" rotate="0,0,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/> <extra_stuff id="1" filename="object\snow\f_snow_guidace.ebm" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="1" pos="1115,0,3022" rotate="0.707107,0,0.707107" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="1" name="extra_npc_000" npc_id="31" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" /> </extra_object> </cabal>
Like this :
It means "rotate" with 4 value is not a bug ?Code:<cabal> <version index="1" /> <extra_object world_id="1"> <!-- X'Mas Tree --> <extra_stuff id="0" filename="object\object_fx\x-mas\x-mastree05.efx" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="0" pos="2252,-31,3068" rotate="0,0,0,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="2" stuff_id="0"/> <extra_stuff id="1" filename="object\snow\f_snow_guidace.ebm" min="-170.873,-25.3112,-244.727" max="215.379,650,172.775"/> <extra_entity type="1" pos="1115,0,3022" rotate="0.707107,0,0.707107,0" scale="1,1,1" disable_cell_radius="1" stuff_id="1" name="extra_npc_000" npc_id="31" npc_tag="0" npc_type="7" /> </extra_object> </cabal>
Last edited by ZinskY; 30-01-10 at 05:20 PM.
With 3 values for "rotate" I got crashes :D
But when I changed back to 4 value (by adding "0," at the start) object appeared.
For more details:
- I put the X'mas tree in BI with rotate="0,0,0,0". It's OK.
- I put the X'mas tree in BI with rotate="0,0,0". Crashed when open the CabalMain.exe
Here is SS :
Last edited by trungnt88; 31-01-10 at 06:52 AM.
so am i able to add a custom npc with custom items to any position too ?
We cannot change locations of the NPC's. They are done in the MCL files which we cannot edit...yet!
Thats not Correct exactly..
I Added Lady Yakaterina to PF..behind Pluma..
It works perfectly,except one thing..
The Name Dissapeared..
But i could Click her,and could Buy Stuff.
So it is Possible to "Move" them to Other Maps,but its Buggy..
This Method was made via Extra_Obj.enc
Same with Yuki.BTW..
Regards..
He's asking about ADDING an NPC, not modifying an existing one. Yes, you CAN add custom NPC's with custom items at any location.
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