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    Valued Member Twiddle is offline
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    Setup server only on linux?

    Hi. I have some questions: 1. Can server setup on linux only without vmware? 2. Only CentOS or i can use other linux f.e. PCLOS? Tnx. sorry for english am russian... ;)


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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    1) yes
    2) you can run over any linux, like PCLOS, but i think madriva sucks then PCLOS sucks too. :p
    run over centos or fedora, its the best option.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Hello.

    and the DB??? only run in Windows

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Running a proper linux box rather than vmware is a much better idea but many people don't have a spare machine so they use VMWare. I think alomost any linux will do but choosing one that uses .rpm files directly might make your life easier, i know debian based distros like Ubuntu have the "Alien" command to convert rpm files but not all do. On some distros yu might have to unpack the rpm and manually install or use one of the ready-made unpacked ones.

    Modded linux installs like D@mn Small Linux would be perfect for what i want (low memory usage) but it seems to be missing too many things and installing normal packages with Yum seems to cause it a lot of problems so i have stuck with Centos.

    The DB will only work with MSSQL so you are going to need a windows machine for that no matter what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chumpywumpy View Post
    Running a proper linux box rather than vmware is a much better idea but many people don't have a spare machine so they use VMWare. I think alomost any linux will do but choosing one that uses .rpm files directly might make your life easier, i know debian based distros like Ubuntu have the "Alien" command to convert rpm files but not all do. On some distros yu might have to unpack the rpm and manually install or use one of the ready-made unpacked ones.

    Modded linux installs like D@mn Small Linux would be perfect for what i want (low memory usage) but it seems to be missing too many things and installing normal packages with Yum seems to cause it a lot of problems so i have stuck with Centos.

    The DB will only work with MSSQL so you are going to need a windows machine for that no matter what you do.
    the most important thing is, you can handle more than 4gb of memory on vmware, and that its not enough to handle 5/10 channels for example.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    I try to configure the server in ubuntu but I could start cabal service, many packages .deb after converting from .rpm gave errors(with alien), dont know if different installation in the order of the configuration files

    If someone can mount in Ubuntu or want to try to tell me so we can help: D

    Only spanish no good english xD
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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Maybe MSSqL run on Linux with DosBox, Wine and s.o.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Maybe MSSqL run on Linux with DosBox, Wine and s.o.
    yes but you lose performance.
    Its not a good deal.

    the best option its: linux box + win box
    if you cant: win box with vmware.

    @holycr0ss the main problem its cabal have hardcoded some statics librerys, then if you use a diferent version like ubuntu, probably find some troubles

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    The EU Cabal uses min 5-6 servers for each database :/
    The easiest way to set up a server is using VMware, no other choice atm... Well if you make a mssql server in Linux, that would be nice lol

    Don't use ubuntu. I tried and the ALIEN command is rly ALIEN like, many errors and still buggy like hell lol.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Is Linux OS really essential to run this server?

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by cruzades View Post
    Is Linux OS really essential to run this server?
    Yes. Because all executable files are done in linux. Aren't you happy cause its more stable under linux?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juris View Post
    Yes. Because all executable files are done in linux. Aren't you happy cause its more stable under linux?
    ok, I got it..


    how about running it natively in LINUX only? is it possible?

    about MSSQL, will it possible to run using WINE?

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by cruzades View Post
    ok, I got it..


    how about running it natively in LINUX only? is it possible?

    about MSSQL, will it possible to run using WINE?
    dude that be answered 5 msg before.. :S take 1 minute and read all the post before ask the same 2 times :bad:

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    @guybrush

    I've read the messages from first post to this post, but never they said about "WINE" thing.

    I'm just having this thought if it's possible to run the DB without the need of real windows-OS, I think that's more on "more-stable" system.

    I've browsed that DBapps of WINE, I found nothing about MSSQL running using WINE, BUT I'm not discounting our Linux-Pro's intuitive ability, they might be successful in running it using wine, that's the whole point of my prior post.

    anyway, thanks dude.
    -cruzades

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Can anyone compile server to windows binary?
    For someone can't use linux.

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    @cruzades - It might be possible to get mssql to run through wine, but the performance would be terrible and i would expect problems. Linux already has several decent (and free) database apps so i can't see anyone putting too much effort in getting mssql working.

    @jzsora - This question has been answered dozens of times already. No we can't. The server code is not designed to run on windoze (it would be far more unstable even if it did) and we don't have the sourcecode to compile anyway. Everybody can use linux, it's not like it costs money it just requires a download and few brain cells to learn how to use it if you never have before.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Maybe convert mssql bases to mysql. Imho mysql more stable.

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    And 1 more question: i had 3 computers at home (1 of them - MU server ;) ) and i use router. What connection type select in vmware? My internet ip: 89.113.**.** My ip in provader's localnetwork is 192.168.104.** And router clone this ip to 3 computer: 192.168.0.100\101\102 with no mask and getaway.
    sry bad english

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    if I had windows server 2003 enterprise sp2 I can install on him vmware + centos ?

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by kfirfer View Post
    if I had windows server 2003 enterprise sp2 I can install on him vmware + centos ?
    yes u can

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    Re: Setup server only on linux?

    and if i had windows server 2003 standard sp2 ?



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