What you like/hate in A3

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    What you like/hate in A3

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    1) I love the fact that monsters aren't stupid and the minute you enter a map you find monsters ready to attack you even if you don't touch them.

    2) Persistent world, are you lucky to be there when bosses spawn then you can kill'em. Otherwise ....sorry buddy no "instance" crap.Only SQs are instanced.

    3) Armors and weapons per character level

    4) Crafting , combinations, item leveling.

    5) Different char orientation like enchanters, greed, etc.

    6) You don't have to learn 4.000 different skills neither you need to learn 50 shortcut keys.

    7) Party hunting

    8) Dog races, tower event, arena , special quests

    9) Mercenaries

    10) Characters look like real people not like cartoons

    11) Item shops

    12) You don't need a Quad core and SLI cards to play





    Hate List

    1) Quests get boring very soon and don't encourage cooperation even for players of same town.

    2) The world is too small, a lot more (or bigger) maps needed when many people become high level.

    3) Leech & afk parties.

    4) Role Playing is not part of the game

    5) NPC relations are "hidden"

    6) High levelers easily ruin game

    7) Lore points are kind of useless, IMHO lore should play an important role in game.

    8) Player's "character" and behavior is not important in game, there should be some "benefits" for different kinds of gameplay.

    9) Heal & Bor are a huge cheat and give a great advantage to HKs

    10) We are stuck in Epi 2 , All out war not working, OX quiz too, and who knows what else we have missed.

    11) Thols are still a secret , I saw them once in old A3 India and that's it.



    ATTENTION: This is not supposed to be a flame topic. Just a list of what we love & hate in A3.
    Last edited by chrissdegrece; 03-02-11 at 09:12 PM.


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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

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    10) We are stuck in Epi 2 , All out war not working, OX quiz too, and who knows what else we have missed.

    11) Thols are still a secret , I saw them once in old A3 India and that's it.

    me to having this prob

    and more over i like all things in A3

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

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    13) All character details are server sided including the character movement which makes it very hard or nearly impossible to create teleport hack, map hack, woonz hack, damage hack, vacuum hack, monster non-aggro hack etc. (Believe me I tried creating each one of it :P)

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    12)There is no inbuilt DLL injection hack and malicious hack software detection engines like GameGuard or XTrap in episode 5 client

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    14) Ppl come in RZ thinking they can get rich with A3 and want a perfect server in no time without having the slightest knowledge of Databases, Networks, websites, hex stuff etc.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    1) Actoz Sucks. They abandoned the game. So no matter how many Likes you have about the game, it will die down eventually.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Then what about A3 Returns? Its run by Actoz isn't it?

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Its like a lame bodywork. Nothing else.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    But many players are playing that server though you tell its just a bodywork. I had logged in into the game once and talked to English speaking Korean players. They all seem to enjoy game!

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Thats because they probably haven't stepped out of A3 to see what the MMORPG Industry has in store for them.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Quote Originally Posted by cvrdheeraj View Post
    1) Actoz Sucks. They abandoned the game. So no matter how many Likes you have about the game, it will die down eventually.
    True!!! It's already dead, actoz tries to make some money because they also failed as a company and they try to recover.

    Though if the community was strong we could try to "buy" the game or request to open source it like other companies did. There are lots of examples out there of teams who brought back from the dead various games.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Only if it is Open Source. No use of developing the game if we have to take the pain of Olly'ing the Client to keep adding new things.
    Last edited by cvrdheeraj; 07-02-11 at 10:53 AM.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    True. If some group "buys" the game, it buys the source also. Then it's up to this group to decide if it wants to open source it or not.

    In general I fully agree with you, there is no use in "debugging" stuff.

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Even if someone buys the game, they will take a lot of time to understand the code that was written by Actoz when it comes to Functions and Memory Handling. Its better to lookup the assembly and code a Zoneserver from scratch.

    The PDB files in the Zoneserver folder are Program debug databases which help us get to know the Functions that are used by the Zoneserver. They can be used to get more idea about how the Zoneserver performs.

    For instance, if you click on an NPC, the Following happens in a Zoneserver.

    1. Data is received by the Zoneserver from the Zoneagent
    2. Data is decoded based on the Encryption Key and the Version of the Client.
    3. The Packet IDs are used to determine which Packet it is.
    4. Once the Packet is determined, the appropriate function is called.
    5. The Click on NPC Function usually checks the distance of the NPC From player. It also checks if the player is a Murderer or not. This is done inorder to make sure that the player doesn't client hack.
    6. We can get to know the above because we already know the names of the functions which are being called. So it makes our work easier.
    7. Now the only part left to do is to create a code in our own login to implement the above.
    8. Its a simple Actoz like Zoneserver with a Source Code that you can always expand. (Provided you have the Client that could support the feature that you are implementing).

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    Re: What you like/hate in A3

    Absolutely right, PDB files are a LOT of help



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