Similarities between XBOX360 'n' Sega Dreamcast

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Similarities between the XBOX's 360 and Sega's Dreamcast

1. Launched a year before the competition.
2. Faced a “far superior” next-generation PlayStation console that wowed gamers with fancy tech demos.
3. Sleek white console following in footsteps of bulky, black console.
4. Made its American debut on MTV.
5. Games ran on a Windows-derived OS.
6. Dreamcast’s marketing mantra. (Dreamcast: “it’s thinking” Xbox 360: “a living entertainment experience”)
7. “Dreamcast will evolve much more into a network environment rather than a standalone system. It’s not about you and the machine any more. It’s about you competing against your friends, your enemies.”
“Xbox 360 is driven by the passion of a worldwide community. It’s a product that will bridge vast distances through shared stories and experiences…It’s about the ability to connect with your communities.”
8. Big selling point: Online for all with packed-in modem and SegaNet.
9. Unable to play the latest in cutting edge movie media (HD-DVD/Blu ray).
10. Big selling point: Hi-def monitor output.
11. Big proponent of customization.
12. Peter Moore spearheaded the marketing.
13. Played previous generation games under emulation.
14. Tetsuya Mizuguchi worked on highly anticipated First Party title
15. Exclusive promotional partner leading up to launch: Pepsi.
16. Highly anticipated First Party racing game from Bizarre Creations.
17. Unique selling point: Microphone peripheral.
18. Software medium criticized as having not enough capacity by some developers.
19. Promised to be an evolutionary system - to someday play the next type of video disc
20. Crazy rich bald guy spotted at several promotional events leading up to launch.
21. Planned to eventually offer larger storage capacity with a Zip drive.
22. Metal Gear Solid trailer stole much of its next-generation thunder.

How kool was dreamcast :D

lmao that cant mean a good thing. If history repeats its self that means its xbox turn :S

yeah they both have one more thing in common; it will be Microsoft's last console

Buh it didn't say why Dreamcast failed....

Only difference is that Microsoft wont go under because of the XBOX 360 like Sega did with the Dreamcase. :tp:

NoPeace - out

lol thats a pretty funny list ;)

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Originally Posted by NoPeace

Only difference is that Microsoft wont go under because of the XBOX 360 like Sega did with the Dreamcase. :tp:

NoPeace - out

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lmao...noooo shit?

the only reason Crapsoft did not "go under" like Sega did....is because of that lil microsoft logo glued on the side of that suxbox lol....i dont think you understand how much money a company has when the fawken chairman has over 100billion lmao...that damn company can put out any crappy product (people will still prolly buy it cause of its godly winblowz sticker on the side)...sit on it for centurys lose millions and to them its losing something like a dime to us lol

they lost alot from xbox...google "microsofy loses money from xbox" if you dont beleave me....they really dont care because they will still be rich dumb asses for the rest of their lives

even if they try to sell poop on a stick....

DarkTemp - out :icon6:

Microsoft is launching now for a simple reason *christmas time* Im no fan of this tactic. But yea there going to prolly flop 360 like no tomorow then Ill own both the floped systems dreamcast and 360 lol.

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Originally Posted by DarkTemp

lmao...noooo shit?

the only reason Crapsoft did not "go under" like Sega did....is because of that lil microsoft logo glued on the side of that suxbox lol....i dont think you understand how much money a company has when the fawken chairman has over 100billion lmao...that damn company can put out any crappy product (people will still prolly buy it cause of its godly winblowz sticker on the side)...sit on it for centurys lose millions and to them its losing something like a dime to us lol

they lost alot from xbox...google "microsofy loses money from xbox" if you dont beleave me....they really dont care because they will still be rich dumb asses for the rest of their lives

even if they try to sell poop on a stick....

DarkTemp - out :icon6:

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The way you combine words like that is really lame

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Originally Posted by RsX

The way you combine words like that is really lame

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you mean cause i edited the word? lol

Thank you for telling me what you think is lame or not i care so much
Teach me oh un-lame one i REALLY REALLY want to be un-lame like you
RsX is sooooo un-lame
/end sarcasm


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The Dream Cast went under beacuse they didnt market Japen good enough. Also beacuse they had no dvd player. So when the ps2 came out with a fairly good price tag/ DVD player it made the people in japen want it. Making the lack of dreamcasts not sold.

TBH Sega isnt such a big console maker....

Would you rather buy a


Sega dreamcast or a
Sony Dreamcast or a
Microsoft Dreamcast


Just by adding the better brand name you will get pulled in more :P

Plus, sony and microsoft know how to pull off amazing campaigns and have enough money for the best advertising all over the world... Sega didnt do that with dreamcast :P

Yeap there advertizing to japen sucked so bad that they only sold around 1/4th of what they made for them.

I personally liked the dreamcast more than the playstation 2. The controller felt more natural in my hands, and I liked the titles... Maybe because I wasn't raised on the NES and the FF series... I grew up with the Genesis.

But, as said before, the Xbox 360 won't cause Microsoft to go under like Sega did, simply because of Microsoft's cash reserves and business machine might.

I don't personally own a Nintendo Gamecube or Sony Playstation 2, because I don't like a majority of the titles released for them. (also the playstation controller kills my hands, and isn't made for playing FPSes.) I have an Xbox, because I like the games better. Sure I don't care for some of the business practices of Microsoft, but they're no worse than IBM was back when MS was just starting out.

They may be a company with monopolistic leanings, but then again, what large corporation isn't?

I for one welcome our new Microsoft overlords.

360 can do more than ps3 imo longterm :p

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Originally Posted by MentaL

360 can do more than ps3 imo longterm :p

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I agree.. all ps3 has is better gfx and maybe a bit more games...

xbox has soooo much more :D (not just a gaming machine)

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Originally Posted by MySTIKaL

Buh it didn't say why Dreamcast failed....

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two words (well actually a sentence): Sega Saturn and the president; SS was priced at $400 and no one bought it, huge profit hole (cause it sucked ass :P). Then a DAY or two before the offical launch of the DC the former president resigned due to quarreling with certain reps.

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360 can do more than ps3 imo longterm :p

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Yes, Xbox has Media Center which should slaughter the Sony franchise...in america and europe. I'm not too sure about it [still] being a big hit (Xbox) in Japan.

Also I still don't see the point in getting one; computers pwn the Xbox left and right, as well as very other direction. I mean c'mon: Xbox: yeah right you can upgrade it, and who cares about the games on it? 3/4 of them are either already on the PC,or will become an even better port.

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Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_

Also I still don't see the point in getting one; computers pwn the Xbox left and right, as well as very other direction. I mean c'mon: Xbox: yeah right you can upgrade it, and who cares about the games on it? 3/4 of them are either already on the PC,or will become an even better port.

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A great majority of games published for consoles never have a PC port. Those who do, are usually made for PC, and ported over to console. (Half-life, Half-life 2 for short mention.)

Yes, a computer, being easily upgradeable, and having new, cool technologies coming out each day for the platform would make a console easily obsolete.

Even though I have a Media Center PC, and adequate video output to/input from television, I think it's just better for consoles to be connected to TV, as an extension of that. I can barely read font in Windows on an S-video output, and it's kinda clumsy to use a mouse and keyboard sitting on my couch, and talk on AIM/Y!M/etc. and then turn around and play counter-strike. A gimmick yes, but the usual, no.

My xbox sees most of her action out at LAN parties, where we usually play halo/2, eat pizza and scream profanities at each other all night. Yes, we do LAN more often with PC's, but it's oddly easier to transport my 20" TV and xbox to friends houses than it is my computer, with the box, 17" monitor and all the peripherals I need. (Mouse, Keyboard, headset, table, etc.)

We're at a point in technology where, home computers abilities far surpass consoles, but consoles still have a niche, in that they are dedicated (usually) to gaming and don't have to act as a general vehicle for entertainment. That's how they can get away with lower specs than a normal PC, it's a gimp, and therefore can devote more processing power to the games.

I don't see any changes, and I forsee that consoles will reach into at least an 8th generation. It's just who makes it there is cloudy.

Also, everyone should check out the second page of that article, entitled "10 reasons why the Xbox 360 will succeed where the Dreamcast failed."

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Originally Posted by RsX

I agree.. all ps3 has is better gfx and maybe a bit more games...

xbox has soooo much more :D (not just a gaming machine)

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There's a reason people usually buy consoles...to play only games...and maybe watch movies.....

Not just a gaming machine....isn't that like my PC?

If xbox didnt have xbox live and media center capabilities (aka. no TV terminal and no online play/patch & game mod downloads/friends list & friends status/player cards etc etc etc... No streaming of movies/music right from the pc, MUCH MUCH more), ps3 would be better BY FAR!!!!

But just the media center capabilities is like 50% of the system... Its like everything you would need for entertainment except for a tv (pretty sure you can use it as a web browser too, and many hacks will come out for it)

PS3 is purely gaming and dvd... period... So it doesnt reach xbox's heights when speaking of overal entertainment.

For example, you have BF2 online for PS3 AND xbox 360.. lets compare...

On ps3: Probly a poor in-game friends list, not much content, great gfx.. thats about it..
On 360: advanced friends list with lots of content, very good gfx(not great), portal to download new maps, vehicles, patches and mods, you can also pm or sms (yes!! sms right from the xbox for free!!) your friends to jump in for a tournament or something, and so much more...

Yes, maybe ps3 has better gfx, but xbox just has so much more... And its going to be much cheaper than the ps3:

PS3 games will be about $80 USD because they are in Blu-Ray format (50GB very fast discs), and the console will also be extremely expensive at first ($600+ USD)

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Originally Posted by RsX

If xbox didnt have xbox live and media center capabilities (aka. no TV terminal and no online play/patch & game mod downloads/friends list & friends status/player cards etc etc etc... No streaming of movies/music right from the pc, MUCH MUCH more), ps3 would be better BY FAR!!!!

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quoted for truth tbh...:D

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Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_

quoted for truth tbh...:D

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yes, but the xbox DOES have all that and is therefore better than ps3 :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by TokyoDecadence

A great majority of games published for consoles never have a PC port. Those who do, are usually made for PC, and ported over to console. (Half-life, Half-life 2 for short mention.)

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Yes I understand what you mean :), but seeing Doom 3 and HL 2 on the Xbox are just...awful

LOL I love how people say xbox 360 is better then ps3 cuz xbox live and patches and shit. If the game is complete WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED PATCHES. Why charge people just to play a sinple fucking game online thats onley 1/4 players. If its not mmo why the fuck pay to go online. Look at how sony has done with there online so far. 99% of the games are completely free to play online where the other 1% is like final fantasy 11 you dont pay just to be able to be online and soney dident say hey broad band onley bitches they realized some of us are unable to get broad band where we live. Microsoft used the xbox to target the ritch bitches and say hey look were better then sony see were broad band onley and we dont charge you that much I see it as bull shit honisty. Why pay just to connect online with the xbox when your paying for your isp also. If you want patches or mods GET A PC. Mods for games dont belong on a consol It completely fucks the persepective of what a consol is. A GAMEING consol shouldent have all this shit its called gameing for one reason games. Microsoft released xbox 360 before they got all the bugs out and it gets like a oven and cooks anything behind the fan. Ps3 dident rush there shit to market just to make a quick buck there trying to find as many bugs as they possibly can so the system is a whole lot more stable when the people buy it. The movies on a gameing consol isent bad cuz not every one can get a dvd player so I see no problem but jesus why the fuck would you wanna listen to music and shit on your consol when you have a fucking radio. True some dont got a radio but there cheap they sound a whole whole lot better and if you say well we cant download music with it you cant really dl music with xbox eather cuz jesus 20 gig hd I got like 40 gig on my computer of music. I just burn it to a disc and pop it into my radio no big woop there. (look im The ranting person lol) Microsoft is goig to flop the xbox 360 massivly if you ask me there fucking them selves in the ass by doing this marketing shit. lol I got to see a xbox 360 actually catch on fire for being on for more then 12 days I laughed my ass off when he was like wtf. Oh It was a store desplay model just so you know it was on 24 7

Fuk that man XBOX 360 is still a good console and its comming out with games that will blow you away such ass 99 nights and with more features such as Online Web caming ! sure sure u may think " oh PS3 is going to way more sick " but its doesnt have half the features 360 has and chances are there are alot more Ps3 fans out there becuase Ps2 came out b 4 XBOX so alot more ppl stayin with PlayStation so Xbox 360 mIght get its ass kicked in Money with Ps3 but it will kicks ps3's ass even harder with games and online Gaming you can also Buy game sonline from your XBOX with its new oline Market and with upgrades to XBOX live ( Silver,Gold ) u get more acces to different features that they havent said about yet !

so u may say " oh XBOX 360 is a Rip and it copies everyone " well why dont u try it out

and also
when i said money making Just wait till halo 3 comes out...


EDIT: XBOX 360 IS COMING OUT WITH MMORPGS LIKE FF11 AND 99 NIGHTS IN SPRING I BELIEVE OR EALIER AND TRUE FANTSY ONLINEIS ALSO COMING OUT ON 360 (MMORPG) AND ANOTHER YOU CAN CHANGE THE HARD DRIVE TO A BIGGER SIZE BUT I SUGGEST U DO RESEARCH ON IT BEFORE ATEMPPTING

RsX u go man XBOX 360 is better then ps3 and has a more ... more...Normal Controller ? and HALO 2 can kick any Games and.....Ps3 SUKS !!

since you guys are talking about ps3 and xbox 360, i say both consoles are good. However my vote would goto ps3. Xbox 360 doesnt seem much of an improvement that would blow my mind away. Ive seen some of the xbox 360 games (previews) and it didnt look fun at all. Looks like the same old crap with just new graphics lol. Xbox was a dissapointment to me however. The games lacked good graphics and got dull after a while. When i played on the ps2, God was that fun.........for some reason. Anyways, these are just my opinions, dont crictizise them cause im not crictizing anybody else.

The only good game on xbox was halo, but that game got dull after 4 hours lol...........:thumbup:

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EDIT: XBOX 360 IS COMING OUT WITH MMORPGS LIKE FF11

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hm... y would u want to pay for playonline AND also pay to connect to the net with ur xbox 360(to get those EXTRA features), buy it for pc or get it for ps2 where u just gota pay for one internet bill and the playonline fee unstead of 2 net bills (assuming ur gona get the gold membership) and the playonline fee.

it's true the features on the 360 are great but then again y would u want to have a media studio or w/e on ur xbox a pc does a great job of doing that now

also for the 360 most of the online games will be FPS running around shooting peoples heads off just like the xbox once uve played on damn game the rest are the same except for mb the maps and different guns and w/e they want to throw in. also if u really want to play an online game it's better to just get a pc ull probly pay less money connection to the net with a pc then with an xbox and guess what ull get every feature avaiable for that game without having to go out and buy a gold members bull shit.

the only reason y i HATED the org xbox was the fact the almost every single game i herd about was either a FPS, sports game, or a fighting game. which don't get me wrong are great for all of 2 days. but if u want something that will keep u interested for weeks sony will not let u down

as for right now if the xbox 360 (lets also say halo 3 and those other games u fools are waiting for are out) and the ps2 (yes ps2) were the same price i would go out and buy a ps2 with out even thinking about the xbox 360 capabilities and so called EXTRA features.

those feathers mean nothing if mb u don't own a computer then yes buy all means go out and buy a 360 it has everything a pc has and it's cheaper. but if u do have a pc which is 99% of us in north america then xbox is a waste of ur money bc it does the exact same thing as a pc. as for ps3 or even ps2 the games are well worth it they have games for everyone, and at least they will keep u busy for more then 3 days.

[EDIT] btw if the only choices i had where the Nintendo REV console and the microsoft xbox 360 console i would go out and buy my self the REV has a way better controller

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hm... y would u want to pay for playonline AND also pay to connect to the net with ur xbox 360(to get those EXTRA features), buy it for pc or get it for ps2 where u just gota pay for one internet bill and the playonline fee unstead of 2 net bills (assuming ur gona get the gold membership) and the playonline fee.

it's true the features on the 360 are great but then again y would u want to have a media studio or w/e on ur xbox a pc does a great job of doing that now

also for the 360 most of the online games will be FPS running around shooting peoples heads off just like the xbox once uve played on damn game the rest are the same except for mb the maps and different guns and w/e they want to throw in. also if u really want to play an online game it's better to just get a pc ull probly pay less money connection to the net with a pc then with an xbox and guess what ull get every feature avaiable for that game without having to go out and buy a gold members bull shit.

the only reason y i HATED the org xbox was the fact the almost every single game i herd about was either a FPS, sports game, or a fighting game. which don't get me wrong are great for all of 2 days. but if u want something that will keep u interested for weeks sony will not let u down

as for right now if the xbox 360 (lets also say halo 3 and those other games u fools are waiting for are out) and the ps2 (yes ps2) were the same price i would go out and buy a ps2 with out even thinking about the xbox 360 capabilities and so called EXTRA features.

those feathers mean nothing if mb u don't own a computer then yes buy all means go out and buy a 360 it has everything a pc has and it's cheaper. but if u do have a pc which is 99% of us in north america then xbox is a waste of ur money bc it does the exact same thing as a pc. as for ps3 or even ps2 the games are well worth it they have games for everyone, and at least they will keep u busy for more then 3 days.

[EDIT] btw if the only choices i had where the Nintendo REV console and the microsoft xbox 360 console i would go out and buy my self the REV has a way better controller

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mmorpg's are fro free.. That includes final fantasy and all those..

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mmorpg's are fro free.. That includes final fantasy and all those..

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are u stupid...... only the cheap and crappy looking mmorps are free and ff and "those others" wont be free

if ff was so free then id be playing that right now then be msging here

Grim Hypnotist, there is no excuse for such disgusting grammar, consdering you're from the US. you really give us americans a bad name :dry:

Nice list..sega dreamcast really didn't go far..hopefully xbox 360 will be different..

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Originally Posted by RsX

mmorpg's are fro free.. That includes final fantasy and all those..

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I think I'll make my point without being completely rude.

FFXI for xbox 360 will not be free, you will have to pay for:
A) Play Online
B) FFXI The game and one charater
C) Everyother charater you create/Tetra Master

The only difference in xbox 360 is it's getting a new patch, that was first only going to be released for the xbox, however SE are now opening it on all PS2/PC/XBOX
Ther emight be a chance you'll be able to play FFXI for free (you'll still have to buy POL account) when it first comes out on xbox 360 because you will be playing in a test server while they fix the remaining bugs.

Microsoft asked for a Final Fantasy game for the xbox because alot of people have a Play station for the Final Fantasy game, hell even I have a ps2 for the FF games, in return xbox got FFXI, and they wanted this because of its power to go online.

In my opinion they have made a bad choice in picking FFXI to come out for the xbox, I love FFXI but I think they could have got alot more people interested in the xbox 360 by bringing out maybe FFXII on the xbox 360.

I myself am not getting an xbox 360 or ps3 till next year just when I go to uni, because one, I'll need someone to do lol, and two, I will be abe to see what one has more improvments upon the other one.