As the title states, how much did Education itself help you be a better man on your job? Or was your course or college degree relevant to your job?
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As the title states, how much did Education itself help you be a better man on your job? Or was your course or college degree relevant to your job?
Got a degree in photography. Work in customer services. I guess my second job as a photographer it helped towards :p
I would say it depends on the size of the company. The smaller the company, the more diverse number of roles you can get involved in. I have two jobs, one I am helping an architect try to essentially save lives in Africa, I was recruited because of my degree in sustainable design, though my original focus was on electronics, still stuff from that has come in useful. My other job is as a quality engineer as a fairly small factory. You'd think what could that have to do with design and electronics, but so far I've reverse engineered their production system to input data from tablets, created a clock in system using RFID chips, restructured the warehouse that can now use qr codes from bays, and I'm in the process of designing sustainability improvements, also helping with ECAD for project managing... While also doing quality engineering too, and it support of course. Quite simply there isn't enough people to have one role for each person, or really enough work.
I guess in a larger business you will only use specific parts or your education, but then it also depends on the degree. I'm likely an odd case as they now trust me enough that I can pursue pretty much rnd activity and know that I'll end up saving them money, I'm guessing its in the 6 figures by this point.
Just choose a degree with a high demand. Pretty much any engineering course and you will be fine. From what I've heard companies are now offering jobs to 2nd year students at decent uni doing decent engineering degrees, so yeah. If it wasn't worth doing they wouldn't be doing that right?...
Education is knowledge. Knowledge helps you move forward. Education helps you gain knowledge; of course education is not the only way. You can get knowledge from doing hands on things, but you will be "educated" about that certain subject.
I gain knowledge from the classes I have taken. Will I need a degree to get higher in my job? Yes, but I will be learning most of the things by doing the job than from education from an institution.
Education does help in some ways.
But getting only degrees is not enough.
You need to have a few things which are really important.
Skills and Character.
The way you approach, the way you mingle with others etc.
I left school at sixteen with basic qualifications, but because I had my industry qualification of a black belt and a great relationship with my coach, I was offered a job that started right after my GCSE's.
So, full of hormones off I went into the world of work with ten GCSE's, and one ultra specific only recognised in part of the martial arts industry "qualification." Tbh it went pretty well, I was never on huge money as I could have spent much more time promoting myself for private lessons, but it offered me the lifestyle I wanted.
However, after a decade of running around with no shoes on, traveling the world and being a general vagabond, I want to get a degree of my own. My wife has a year left in her study of speech and language therapy, it's a pretty in demand role and should land her a job pretty quick. When we're done here I'll be doing an access to higher education course or two then going to uni myself. I'm really feeling some kind of sport science because I'd love to go so in depth and eventually do my own research. But I'm also thinking of doing something completely different, either way I would go for a course that carries weight for high paid positions.
With me I left school with all my GCSE's too, then went on to 6th form and got my A/s levels and A levels in music art and psychology. Then I went on to collage and did NVQ2 Chilecare and NVQ2 Playworker, gave up on that when I moved. moved to canada, attended U of A (University of Alberta where I then did my CompTIA A+Certification server and networking.)
tbh the only qualification I actually have that is relevent to what I do is prob my CompTIA...lol although the course was mostly to do with the hardware side binary coding and set up and trouble shooting of issues...lol
does come in handy now n then tho :P
I myself graduated, i took computer science but i am working and pursuing to become a professional barista xD everytime i am on a job interview i saw the faces of the HR and i feel that they was like "you bitch finish computer science and you are in the food and beverages field?! Wtf" hahaha thats funny for real coz its true but for me everything can be learn on the actual job. :)
Exactly my thoughts. I like it better if courses were made to be done practically instead of how things are done theoretically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ervs
skool teach me English and i learn things i now know yes~? But really, I taught myself most things.
Sorry for going off topic man, but you're helping save lives in Africa? That's awesome man. Would love to hear more about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Essentially we designs a multifunction building that tries to provide as many resources as possible for the local community. Power via solar/wind/anaerobic digestion, water filtering/storage, some agricultural aspects. The building itself we have designs for health centres/ schools/ community centres depending on the community. My local university has really helped support it too as they want to do research on the impact it has, one of the main members of the team is from the health and wellbeing department so he's really pushing for that aspect, he does a lot with infectious diseases. We're also planning a project in Nigeria for conflict resolution between Muslims and Christians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage
Sadly its frustratingly slow work as there's very little incentive for anyone with the capitol/power to help. There are many good causes and too few donors. The amount of presentations and documents we need to write when all we want to do is design and help people drives me nuts.
Well It's enough much for the history but not much for my future so I taught myself and been trying to do more. And I kinda still got a problem with spoken English srzly. :(:
Maybe 60% is a fair rating. I don't actually find it being such an huge impact but its a great knowledge to share with others.
I have a master's in software engineering / science (ahem, well, will have when I bother to complete the last few credits some day). I'd say my everyday skills I've learned on my own and at work as I go, but education has allowed me to learn them faster and to have better judgement when posed with choices. Studying sciences has definitely altered my interests as well for better and for worse which shows for example in what kind of tech articles I read which in turn affects my view about the industry and my choices for the tools (i.e. languages, frameworks etc.) I use every day. It's made me more attentive to detail, correctness and elegance of software I write in contrast to being a self-taught programmer who might more often favor dirty hacks and what's the easiest option in spite of quality. It's given me bigger-scale understanding about concepts like computational complexity and software architecture, something that is hard to come by just by doing what you do, looking at individual code lines from day to day.
Education hasn't helped me with my job. I left school with basic GCSE qualifications the normal person achieves e.g Maths C, English C etc and without receiving the rest of my results I've been taken on for a Front-end website development apprenticeship, because I self-taught myself as an head start.
Basically, Education never helped me. However I was required to have C in English and Maths to be taken on.
I studied computer science in college but left it unfinished because I was getting increasingly frustrated and impatient, the way education worked was revolting, because we had a short time limit to write a novel's worth of text and code on paper and I frequently failed because I couldn't finish so quickly. I quit and became a software engineer.
I can say for certain that the piece of paper called diploma would help you and even give you a bigger salary, but in the end, what you learn at school barely scrapes the surface of what you need to know if you want to do well at your job. Many graduates of IT don't know half of what they need to know. So learn on your own and try to make your hobby your job.
totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riizq
Just a little. I am a English major, but i am doing technical job now. I only use my major to read some texts, thus i have forgot many knowledge. When I was working, I learn more to have a good relationship with my colleagues and social contact.
If you're going to specialize in a field school is important - I studied accounting and the only thing that really helped was the forced need to build a habit of working long hours and to utilize critical thinking. If you're getting a general business degree I don't see school really helping. School helped a lot tbh.
Education enhance my great logical thinking and reasoning.
Creativity?
I am also a computer science graduate but my job is not programmer. ROFL
You are not alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negata
Same story..
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Originally Posted by influential
Now this is not a good story, it is what most do, studying CS just because they know the wage is good. while they should study that only if they have interest :|
Back when i was student, there were all kinds of village people trying to study CS, by the end, from 200 people, 10 manage to actually graduate (fail in english, fail in code, and then fail in math) but here its complex, we study more math than any other university. so i ended up with Excellent in everything except math. but i continued, now the only reason i dont have my degree is i'm waiting for the math Professor's death.
The point is, never slap your Math teacher in the face, and dont hit him in the kidney stones. he may accidentally release them and live more than he should.
Studies in Portugal doesn't mean anything at this point, if you want a job you are either lucky to be picked over 10000 applicants or you have a person that puts you inside.
Portuguese people with college are emigrating because even if you have completed your studies 100% it's hard to get a job on their specific area. I know friends that completed college and are working on McDonalds and in my opinion that's bullshit.
0% My work is just way far from what i learned at school and university ..
IT , and my work have nothing to do with networking or PC's x)
(Awesome Middle East Education)
That would have been my story, if i was not working online. but, my gimnasy education (12 grades) have nothing to do with IT or PC either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ☠RockAngeL☠
when i went to university to study CS and showd them my cracked gameservers assembler codes and sites and games and other nice stuff they told me to come back at the end of the second year so it's been pretty easy for me.. except Math.