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9-11 WAS A GOVERNMENT OPERATION!
Call me nutz for watchin this and believing but till the USA Government can prove more info...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...20890224991194
Sorry to anyone who loss anyone I think best if you just not watch this but for people who intrested watch it... It can't hurt 1 hour 55secs!
It gets better and better!
If it was a government operation it was triggered back when pres-Clinton was in office. Since much of what lead up to the attacks was occuring during this time.
What irks me is that, even though this is the case. Many people (democrats included) try to make it sound as if it was Bush's fault, even though by the time these attacks happened it was already pretty much impossible to put together the resources needed to stop it.
there just finished it I must say the movie was well done the even have a site http://www.letsroll911.org/
To tell you the truth I'm freaked out if this all faked its just a lot of info and dubbing the faked to perfection..
I must set my side on this was the USA fault..
Watch it before making coments all of it and then come back say its faked thats cool but tell us why and prove everything on there.
I believe it first off bush is a totall fucktard...i know i live in the USA. He should stop doing what daddy wants him to do and be a man, do whats right for the country. Yeah he helps people in the other countrys, but what about our soliders the least he could do was give them better protection...fighting a fake war...over oil...! Yet that doesnt seem to suprise knowing bush.
About the totall "helping other countrys" thing, i mean well we have tons of fat, people with problems, and homeless people on the street. Although People say get a job you lazy bum, some cant they are mentally unfit to work. But does anyone seem to care no. Bush is to busy helping his daddy finsh what he started.
Another thing that is he doesnt do anything right, such as the "Gay marriage" thing...I have nothing against gay people...they have rights they should be able to get married. Overall i just think Bush should be fired...and hired Kerry that would really do something to help this Country.
Erm.......i dont know if you know this, but to break the ice, every single president is just a figure head of some big name corporations. All they do is just look "pretty" and smile.
Anyways forget what i said there and back to the topic. Actually, clinton did do a lot of shit. Did you know he sold ICBM secrets to china? That's treason and a regular person would have been hanged or killed or something, but he covered it up by blackmailing all the right people. And what martha stewart did, nothing in compared to all the fraud hilary clinton has done.........
Also, the media has a was of skewing each and every single thing they hear so i dont even know if what i typed before this is real. Just be careful to what you listen to before you point a finger because 99.9% of what you hear in the news/ on the internet/ where ever is oh so terribly skewed..... All the media cares about is making money and all people on the internet care about is whoring attention....
We are talking about Bush not Cliton....
I belive this stuff back a whiel agao I was anti bush evrybody thaught I was crazy and that made big arguments but mister that spends half his life on vacations lets the eviler ppl in the back of the government do all the evil deeds the ones you dont see.
Well its like the pentagon stangly teh plane left no wing marks on the building and the part of the uilding was empty stange ...
And the poles of the twine towers had strange chemicles on in at the parts it broke!
How can a simple fire last a weeks? It was a chemicaly made fire (It was proven to be a chemichel mad by an american company to but steel) All this is censord from eny american chanells but in all the other contrys you can find this.
OH NO!!!! Its metal gear solid >.< SNAKE!!! Where are you?!?! But for real.... that seems right if all the info was not messed with.
Well the censoring is verry high in the usa ><
They dont get hall the info they shoudl they are all runniong around saying:
"We are the most powerfull fucking contry in teh world" but the world doesnt give a dam :p
Enywas play follow the leader off the clift soem fattys of less ><
Why Would America Destroy The WTC? To Start A War In The Middle East And Take Control Of The Oil? Ha!
America Lost More Money Due To The Resulting Stock Market Crash Than They Would Gain In Oil. If They Was Also Found Out Due To A Leak Or A Confession, The Ramifications For The Government Would Be Catastrophic. America Would Crumble. There's Two Much Too Lose And Too Little To Gain.
People Love A Conspiracy Theory - Especially The Person Who Posted Above Me.
Edit: Of Course It Was A Chemically Made Fire - Plane's Need Fuel - Plane Fuel Does Indeed Burn For Ages, Hence The Reason They Use It.
Exactly what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Every time that something happens in the world that was unexpected or earth-shattering, then people like to believe it's a conspiracy.
- Moon Landing
- JFK Assassination
- Elvis/Tupac deaths
- Roswell UFO
- Face on Mars
Those are just a few events which have triggered the spawning of some conspiracy theories. People just don't like to except the blandness of the truth, so therefore they look for more. I'm not saying all conspiracy theories are utter crap, but the majority are a crock of shit.
That sounds a lot like a cover up....or a conspiracy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydra
LOL.
Well we cant prove anything unless we were there :/
((NOTICE This is not intended to flame, insult, harrass, upset anyone, etc etc but I am just saying things as I see them. So I apologize ahead of time if you do feel insulted))
Meh I just noticed something, that should've caught my eye. As a result Im pulling out of this conversation. Because really Im going up against someone who believes what they believe because for the time being, this line of thought seems to be popular in your particular culture atm. As a result there will usually be no rational thought about it, especially among the younger generations.
Additionally no, it is not my intent to insult the Canadian people. But from talking to other Canadians, and seeing on the news things they have said (IE examples of canadian ad campaigns that were aired for people to see), or even how their politics have been spinning some things (election tactics!). Right now its pretty apparant about their views and what they may want to believe and as a result, even trying to argue would be a moot point. Because you will choose to believe this no matter what is said.
watched it before.
And yes, it is more than likely the US did this themselves. More specifically, some high ranking politicians with certain economical interests. If you actually watch this all out, you'll see why.
It was not for the gain of the nation, but for themselves.
Evidence is overwhelming that 9/11 was prepared. Most easily noticeably fake is the Pentagon attack.
It's not suspicious at all that exactly the part which was hit was the only part that been fortified with extra strong walls etc.
Nor is it weird to think that a 757 would make a hole 30ft. wide. Or penetrate half of those fortified walls, leaving a same size gap, while it had already lost most speed from hitting the lawn. Or so we are told.
It's also totally normal to find only 1 part of an engine, and from the wrong type of engine, and being told that the rest of it incinerated in the fire; Ofcourse noone tells you then that many important parts are built to withstand such a fire.
how wouldnt of it be real? why would they blow up a building and kill people?
why would they randomly fly a plane into the pentigon?
i know and u also want to c some videos here.
http://www.question911.com/links.php
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Originally Posted by DonTonberry
but all together you dont have a good point
too talk about conspiracy theorys...i think the government made up everything about dinosaurs and no fossil ever found was real
Dude, you don't know how crazy you sound. Why would the leaders of any country destroy something it took 7 years to build, and is considered something very special, and kill THOUSANDS of their own people?!?
That is fucking crazy!
Bush fucked up.
Well yeah now you can say they woudl loose a lto since the hydrogen car and gas cars are comming out quite well ><Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Well hydrogen is planned for next year and im gona get myself one :D
Enywas war is gay point!
If you want wars play games dont go killing ppl.
Enywas after thos event the american and uk hate level rised quite a bit and thos 2 contrys hate France fro standing up against them but world wide the us is hated and nobody can chage that.
The uk is heading that way too since they copying there american buddies.
ANd yes I know that you all hate the French cuz they are classed the third contry that has the most sex while the uk is like 13th lol and the usa 28th if I remember right ><
And no we dont have aides problems and we dotn have fat women or your hairy alliens.
DonTonberry control yourself lol :P
I can understand how one can have strong feeling about these issues, but people who debate in mature ways get treated as mature people ;)
Just try not to flame lol.
War Is Necessary. Sad But True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabrieth
The UK Does Not Follow Anyone. Infact The US Stated They Would Not Enter Iraq Without The UK Going In With Them. All Your Other Countries Are Pissed Off Because The US And UK Stood Up And Had The Balls To Stop A Terrible Dictatorship. Ultimately The United Nations Saw Our Way Or Else They'd Have Done Something About It, Then Again, With The UK And The US Supplying The Armed Forces Power Behind The UN What Could Then Do?
Lol - If We Have The Least Amount Of Sex Then How Come Our Teenage Pregnancy Is The Highest In Europe. You Tard.
Sort Out Your Own Country With These Race Riots And A Dumb Fuck For A Prime Minister Before You Slag Other Countries Off.
I'm Already More Mature Than Half These Nipples Because I Can Look At Both Sides On An Issue And Make My OWN Mind Up For Myself, Not Have It Made Up For Me By Videos Posted On Google Of All Fucking Places.Quote:
Originally Posted by RsX
That was a joke :wiggle:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
The point was that try not to flame ;)
Gabrieth are you fricken retarded?
very nicely put dontonberry in both of your posts. Also, earlier i wasnt just talking about clinton , i was talking about all media in general.
Anyways as don stated, it is good to take a look at this topic from both sides and then come to your own conclusions, and no, watching millions of anti bush/anti us/conspiracy/ anti whatever movies will help you come to a knowledgable conclusion......beh oh well, ony like 2-3 people will actually take this into account.
You guys need to calm down about this. Yelling at each other doesnt fix or do anything. i dont know what to believe or anything. They could of done it to put fear in our eyes so we would be blind of something they are about to do. Or it could of been the other people because their stupid. Idk but I do know that they are going to war now just fo oil because I believe the war is over.
Well you need to care about the world just not to much or you will break your head ><
I just live my life nothign gets affected for me so yeah ...
I have been reading these posts and am disguisted. First off, going against the conspiracy theory idea by saying its a conspiracy to cover a conspiracy is a dying cliche.
Second off, why would the US government want to destroy the World Trade Centers, if it was for money, than they could have found a better way. If it was to spark a Middle Eastern war for oil, there was a better way(we could have just run in). Justifying your actions is no better than acting on them. I understand that some people say thats just wrong, and that you shouldnt just run in and invade the privacy of terrorists when it doesnt affect us. Its sad that people think that way, and somewhat annoying.
Third, the government LOST money with this entire ordeal. Victim's families were paid, we have to rebuild the towers with better material, and more expensive materials. We have to fight a very expensive war.
Fourth, the video is stupid. The first quote is a genuine skull splitter. I am not going to take the word of anyone from the press that says the plane didnt look like a plane. I am wondering what the records were doing of people boarding the planes in computers. I am wondering why some people saw windows on the planes, and some didnt. I am also wondering how someone concocted a story about their husband calling them while on a plane, and it just so turns out that their husband is dead. If 9/11 was setup, why would people sacrifice there lives for a corrupted government? With all the hate towards the government right now, I just dont see it.
I find it pathetic that the video was even made. And I feel sorrow for the people that wasted an hour of their time.
Also, if people havent noticed, deceit for the better of the people, by the government is not a big thing. Its usually the government being corrupt to gain money rather than LOSE billions. You cant bring up governments like Rome, France, or even a time in Great Britains history because they didnt, and some still dont have all of the ideals that we have in our government. Even though Rome was a very corrupt government(evident by the many civil wars), it wasnt setup to help the poor more than the rich.
If some people would actually LOOK at the pattern of history and actually READ those wierd pieces of paper with informative writing on it(books), you might figure that out.
One more thing. "I hate Bush" is turning into a horrible cliche. Most people that say it have nothing to back it up with. If you have something to back it up with, make sure its factual and you can prove it. Otherwise you need to just sit down and find a hobby. People like Michael Moore have a nack for getting people onto his side with an eloquent use of words. Think twice about what you say, and then smack your head when you notice how dumb it is. You could also get a tape recorder, say it, play it over and over again, and feel stupid :O
The rantings of me are now over....
You can flame this all you want, I could really care less. I am not calling anyone stupid(telling you to figure that out on your own), I am calling you ignorant. I am going to start a poll to see what happens, hehe.. should be fun. You might see how ignorant people can be.
wow...I'm speechless. The video just seems...so authentic it hurts to think about. I believe the fact that it's scientifically impossible for the WTC to just...collapse like that from jet fuel that, for the most part, burned from the outside of the buildings. You can clearly tell from the video that there were bombs planted in them.
This is certainly something I'm not telling my kids I went though. This is just fucking embarrassing
I'm with Don and saden99.
It makes no sense for the US Government to do something like that. I accept that people have their own opinions, but so much information (especially on the Internet) is skewed and filled with some sort of bias. As I said before; people love a conspiracy, and when something big like this happens, it's only human nature for these type of theories to arise.
I'm not saying the US government was involed (or did I? :p) I like facts every now and then, but I still believe the middle east did this. I also think Usama Bin Laden was and is a fugitive in the middle east, his reason for wearing things he should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydra
Well now days we dont know what to belive its liek the rumours of alaieda sneaking a lot of nukes into the usa which has never been proven we will never know unless it happens.
As for the twin towers they are gona and thats it now nobody cares enymore the only sad thing is the poor ppl in it if it was just building exploding nobody would care but I still dont belive the pentagon was hit by a plane and never will I had a doubt when I seen the news about the pentagon being hit that was a wingless plane that hit the empty office part of the pentagon.
The government would practically do anything to gain as much oil as possible, especially the start of defeating terroism//evil countries the start of controlling oil in the future of its nation....Quote:
Originally Posted by RsX
You know Bush is just a damn puppet, and the goverment gave like 700 million+ dollars to Saddam or the other guys and shit like once in 1990 somewhere and again in 1996 or so I heard, I wanna hear what you heard tell me!
hey if was me I would demand the goverment to put more info out for the public... There is a lot of mystery in the whole things and this source aint tampered with as most videos here I checked them my self such as cnn and if you look close there right you can see odd things like that.
But lets just ask for one thing from USA goverment to release full tape at the gas station and that fact was true why did they only release 5 frames?? and not even one frame of the plane its self...
It's odd and I feel even though I don't think usa is that nutz they should be held responisble for not providing enough evedence on things like that.
Maybe I'm nut but I think the whole http://www.letsroll911.org/ getting very big I have a feeling may hit news and maybe get around world quite fast...
yeah the gulf war :pQuote:
Originally Posted by genryu
snow from yesterday dudes , it was all USAs machinations from start
Wow.. very enlightening.
There is a 2nd edition of this movie, explains things more clear :)
I just seen a documentary where bush is assisting to a satanist organization Oo
Duno if its faked but it looks so real.
lol..wow this is so dumb its funny
is it funny? i dont really find it funny...explain yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by bfpri
its funny because of common sense .. the united states would not take the time to kill hundreds of people and damage our economy..thats just extremely stupid. and besides bin laden hasn't exactly denied his responsibility...this is just one of the stupid theories going around..
Utter stupidity fills within this thread. Many people would just jump on any conspiracy theory 'cause they don't like the Bush administration. Which is quite ignorant people--
What would be the point in doing this? What's the point in completely destroying two buildings and injure your own people, spend millions in re-building and all of that sweet goodness when 9/11 wasn't even tied in with Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, Al-qaeda did. Hasn't Osama and Al-Qaeda claimed they were the ones responsible for the assault anyways?
The war in Iraq was to get Saddam out of power and free his power, and mebbe finish the job his father had failed. This ongoing assault on each other has lasted over 15 years. It's basically guerrilla warfare, they attack, we attack, they attack we discuss what's necessary for disabling them and then try. Bush just wanted to finish it all so there's no more of this killing going on.
Saddam killed over 300,000 southern Iraqi's, why would we let such a cruel dictator remain in power for so long if he's killed so many of his own people? Saddam owned all the oil in Iraq and could take it away from us in a heartbeat. That was dangerous to the Europe as well as the U.S. So many countries agreed that Saddam was a huge threat to them and decided military action was the last resort.
When our inspectors were inspecting in Iraq for nuclear activity, Saddam gave 'em the boot. And told them they couldn't search. Now isn't that awefully suspicious? If he knows he's got nothing to hide why did he kick our inspectors out? It's not hard to transport things people. The W.M.D.'s might be in Iran somewhere, yes; Iran is the one threatening almost EVERYONE with nuclear missile strikes. Bush went to Congress and asked if he had a legitimate reason for invading and they agreed that he had a legitimate reason for a war.
The war is over; we're securing Iraq--not fighting people off. In the beginning there were massive terror strikes and the terrorist were killing U.S. soldiers as well as their own people. Now there's very few strikes, but because the golden masque attack there have been many more--Bush is letting them chose the path they want, they can leap into a huge civil war killing thousands--or they can chose a safe, working democracy. And evidently they're undecided lol.
It's disgusting what these terrorists will do to end freedom, it really is. The U.S. is the Christian Capitol of the world and Muslims absolutely hate Christians, the 9/11 terrorist attack was an all-out attack on freedom and Christianity. After all the people Al-qaeda has killed you actually think it wise to not invade Aphganistan after so many families had been essentially ruined by their loss? You guys have no feelings. Bush wants to stop these bitter acts of selfishness and prevent another terrorist attack on the U.S. We can't really afford another terrorist attack, not after Katrina.
There is no logical reason why the U.S. would harm themselves and their economy. There is no reason for it.
Oh and, need I remind you of Pearl Harbor? FDR used that to shoot into WW11--and I don't hear people screaming "Conspiracy!" Do you?
Part of it was a government operation.
We all know damn well Bush read the report, so obviously he took the chance, let them do it, proclaimed "The "War" on Terror", and started bombing the middle-east.
*Edit*
And HaPPy ZomBie, incase you didn't know, every one of the hijackers of 9/11 were islamic, and we all know islam detests america, americans, christians & jews.
It was never about hating freedom, the middle-eastern wars & terrorism attacks have always been about religion.
Even the attacks in Europe.
And what's your point? Did I not say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by fuckstick
Well one thing that is suprising is that they knew that the attack was gona happen and they ignored it thinking its rumours :/
And I dont know if bin laden realye xists has enybody realy seen him? Only on tape we dont even know if he realy existes he could just be a creation. But the Bin Laden family is the Bush family freind just osama was excomunicated but the familly is actualy still suporting him. The bin ladin familly is one of teh richest famillies in soudy arabia.
Some m8 of mine send me the link a couple of weeks ago.
There is some truth in there lol.
How the towers went down wasnt natural :P so you think what you think but I'm sure theres more behind it
there is NO way that the tremendous expertise with which the attacks on 9/11 were carried out by some stupid overenthousiastic Arabs. Cause those true AL Qaeda people are plain stupid.
They would NEVER have the means to put bombs throughout the entire WTC unnoticed, and launching a cruise missile to hit the pentagon.
And for you people who think the government would have no reason, watch the movie, or better, watch the newer edition, which Lightwarrior was talking about. This version is a bit more thorough.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change
If you haven't watched it all way through u shouldn't even be posting here.
Ok with this I feel ashamed so I'll move to Australia instead, was moving there ayway :P. Yea I have no comment on this subject other than the fact that ALL Americans feel shamed, becuase they live in the USA.
ur ip address gets put into a watch list by the FBI for saying stuff like that over the internet. if you dissapear we will know why
Ok. Thats cool. i cant say all americans, but a good 15% of them will move away, becuase they dont like the usa.
yeah right. Unless you're an FBI agent yourself, how the HELL would you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ac194
Sure, let the FBI watch me if they want...
fuck them.
I agree with xeLJoYo on that ip thing.
Since when does hijacking a plane and hitting two of the biggest towers in New York take a rocket scientist?Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
Well when does jet fuel go up to 2000 degrees? How could the towers collapse so fast?
Why didn't they found the cold, 167 billion dollars worth of cold to be exact, which they found 200million dollar out of it all. Where are the black boxes? How could the passengers call from theyr mobile phones at that hight? Why did everyone hear explosions?
The god damn "terrorist" couldnt even fly a little plain let alone a jet. Check the video out before trying to flame the people who have seen it.
Yar this be here as muntiny :( I still don't understand why the government would cause such a travesty :\
I personally dont care who did it, as long as they pay.
Dude you've been watching way too many propaganda films, take a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoOxygen
Wrong, he actually watched the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaPPy ZomBie
You obviously haven't, so I suggest you say no more unless you want to make a fool of yourself.
Lol, because stating an opinion has never made anyone look stupid...yes...(sarcasm)Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
I have watched the movie, and find it to be :puke3: its stupid and all they try to do is influence you into believing their ideas. Obviously some people dont support the ideas, and some do. Its a fact of life that everyone will hate something. Everyone will have an opinion hated by others. And everyone will one day die.
Stop tearing people down for their opinions and you might not feel like such a pompous ass one day.
PS: I like tearing people down for their ignorant opinions. It makes me feel like a pompous ass, weeeeeeeeeeee.
Keep in mind I said IGNORANT opinions.
Wow, I just finished watching it and it's suprising how much has been covered up by the government. Why did they do this anyway?
Did you even understand what I just said? I just said he's been watching way to many "PROPAGANDA" films. Why would I watch propaganda films man? Why would I want to watch a movie so biased that it would literally make me want to turn off the TV for good? I actually know stuff about 9/11, and I know 9/11 had nothing to do with the Iraq War. Therefore hitting our economy hard and putting us in debt would serve no purpose what-so-ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
Oh I exactly understand what you said. But you responded with that reply to someone who was just stating some facts which are revealed in the movie...Quote:
Originally Posted by HaPPy ZomBie
And before anyone tries to say that it's bullshit, some of that, like the jet fuel temperature and the mobile phones calling from great altitude are scientific facts...
Your reply simply doesn't make sense. How would he watch too much propaganda when he is just stating facts?
And Im giving up on replying to saden....
somehow that guy seems to be able to bend everything that is said into whole different words.
Well there were over 3000 wallstreet investigations, the gold that was worth 167billion dollarsQuote:
Originally Posted by meowmix11
and some transactions, illegal, that went over 200 million dollars.
Since when is it classified as actual fact? It's propaganda. Therefore I'll take no interest in what he has to say as it's been said by a biased source--and can be obliterated by actual logic by people who aren't wearing the tinfoil hats. Unlike you and whoever else takes interest in this movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo