OK now attached is a picture i had found, now the picture it self speaks so many words and only thing that makes me wonder is why? And why would someone exploit it? Can i have your views please.
Dan
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OK now attached is a picture i had found, now the picture it self speaks so many words and only thing that makes me wonder is why? And why would someone exploit it? Can i have your views please.
Dan
it's from the holocaust?
they are starving
i found some more pictures (very weird) on http://rotten.com (warning, it's very very very very... *caugh* )
From the info i gathered at the time the picture was a tribe which i think starved them selves intensionally.
I thought someone made it for Africa or those other countries
1. Those were people who really had no food
or
2.Commercially or however you call it(the bad one)
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Originally Posted by MentaL
Well then i have no sympathy for them, nor do i care about this picture....
In that case I think 'I don't give a fuck'. If they wanted to die, they should at least do it in a cool way, involving some kind of animal or concentrated explosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
If they did it to themselves then they deserve all the pain and suffering, but if its because no one helps them then dman i feel sorry for them
This picture would probably be exploited by Humanatarian groups that want the UN to do something about the problems that 3rd world countries face such as starvation (as show in the picture). The problem is...the UN and Red Cross can't go help these people just because some humanatarians come crying for a petetion to send money to that country. And it pisses me off but you know...that's just the way it works. Unless the country has some importance such as valuable exports or such then chances are they are going to be ignored. It's an ugly world.:no:
I think they should make more of an effort to help 3rd world contries and this picture is a common example of what does happen, it really gets to me that they can't fix the problem & in some extreme situations they exploit it!!!
Survival of the fittest? If we go in and help, they will probly end up with AIDs etcQuote:
Originally Posted by FireFlyboy
Tbh i dont feel that the pic effects me, its not like i could do anything about it really. Sure i COULD donate to charitys etc, but i doubt it would really help that much in the end, they might survive an extra day or 2 but in the grand scheme of things it wouldnt be doing much good at all
Its evolution really, most of the world progresses while other parts dont. One day maybe we will get advanced enought to actualy help, but that would have to be after our monatery system is abolished imo...
tomorrow ill be posting allot of INTENSE pictures, expect a great deal of heartache.
c'mon mental we're an mmo forum not a "critic the gore and utter disgusting" forum :/.......
but you're the owner and I have no such right to tell you what to do, and if I don't feel like contributing there's no need for me to be in the thread. But it's there so ha :p
to me, it looks like a concentration camp, until I look at the women and not only she still has hair, but looks nothing like the women at the time. If they were going to starve
themselves, so be it. you can eat grass and survivie. hell dirt and mud has minerals in it your body can use. there's literally food around you, but if you don't want to partake in the feast be my guest.
Of course it makes us look bad, like if you put this pic next to a headliner on adelphia about a guy who ate 22 hotdogs in 12 minutes.... yeah :/
why would you starve yourself?!Quote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
Why not post today??? drawing out suspense? :eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
poverty is never about not* having money, its dignity and respect and much much more
I feel bad for people like that but why should someone have to help them? I think everyone should work it through themself. If we help one, all the other ones that are lazy want free shit too. If people want help they do it them self or work for it. Dont get me wrong but I believe that nothing is free and if we show them free stuff they will only want free stuff. Get what I mean?
But dude what is to work for there I mean there is no food how to get food? Seeds, water, etc.Isn't there either right?Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronmd
ok.... how about we put you in a community where you grow up poor, umm no healthcare, o ya no parents there to help you get started and umm one last thing your sold for a measely 5 dollars to work the rest of ur life at a slave factory so pricks like you ( no offence, im saying this as in everyone in north america in general ) get their god dam nike crap a few dollars cheaper i mean what moron cameup with the concept of putting their stupid logo on a shirt and selling it off for hundreds of dollars like wtf? you pay 100 dollars + for a pair of shoes that cost 40 cents if even that to make, is that fair? dont you understand that they are working hard for their money and etc but its just company's that love people like you the stupid people (not syaing you are stupid but company's just love undereducated people.... no not schoool education as in education of your world) people like nike and etc dont want you to know about what they do and the government also works hard behidn their backs so that they keep it a secret...... anything and prettymuch everything the us gov does is ilegal so why are those fuckers presuring country's for uploading and downloading fucking torrents lol grow up those sobs spend more money on the military then anything on this planet, they kill millions of people for no reason what so ever so why do they get away with thing? fair... equality... nothing is like that in this world and im starting to doubt there is a god cuz if there was he's one lazy ass mofoQuote:
Originally Posted by cameronmd
What are you sayin people who live in North America don't work for their money? That we are handed everything in life? Who the fuck are you to judge a whole fucking continent based soley on your short-sided views? No. I'm sorry but you are sorely mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
ruffkiller it's not our problem the US outsources like this. I just live there. Until I can vote I can't do shit really. Plus, protesting in georgia is a big friggin' waste of time.
Iron_maiden, I don't think ruffkiller reazlies that not only it the US the most work-aholic nation in the world, but we outsource like that because we find it inhumane and those other countries don't. It make sense imo. We already tried that until child labor laws were passed.
P.S. also ruffkiller Cameron is working his ass off and sacrificing a lot for a girl he likes at taco bell :p. he's not getting anything handed to him except a shitload of responsibility. (sorry cameron I had to use you as an example >:p)
Ok, we don't kill millions of people for no reason you ignorant fuck. We invaded Iraq because our dumbass president didn't think about the consequnces of what would happen if he was wrong. Yes, that was illegal. But you can't say that we didn't help those people in the process. We removed a violent dictator that has been know to commit acts of mass murder on his own people. So fuck you mister "I know it all about the US government."Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
Actually your president didn't do shit, it was your government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Why are you blaming God? What the fuck does he have to with this? Is he supposed to magically strike down all the bad people in this world?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
And the US gets away with anything it wants to because we have about 260,000 nukes and the world's most advanced armed forces. That's why. I'm not gloating...I'm just stating the facts. Who the hell is going to have the balls to stand up to the US? China maybe but they are smart enough to realize that the US are the only people ever to actually "nuke" another country.
No. The president broke the law by going against congress and declaring war on Iraq. Read our fucking Constitution. The president has no right to declare war on foreign powers. Only Congress has that power. Hence, "The people" decide whether or not to bomb the fuck out of a country. So Yes, it was our president who fucked up. Yes, our government is corupt. But it wasn't the government who fucked up the situation, it was George W. Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by genryu
pres. decalred war, the gov. did the rest.
what's wrong are the conservatives in the country. Everyone bashes us democrats and liberals because they think we're traitors and "fag-lovers" while the conservatives are the ones who sign up for the army to "get er done" and shoot "towel-heads" so they can get the oil, convert it to gas, and pump it into their precious trucks with monster truck wheels.
I live in georgia so I see a lot of that. It's sad.
Yeah. Conservatives are fucked up. But, the whole monster truck thing is total fucking bullshit. It's the money that gas brings in general. And you liberals point the finger way too much. It's liberals that are going against everything Bush is for. Even if it has nothing to do with Iraq or Oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_
Just so you know I'm an Independant so I'm neither conservative (republican) nor liberal (democrat). And I'm not defending Bush, I'm saying liberals are way too quick to point out the misgivings of one president when you can't even put up a better one for office.
lol at gas prices these high it's a shame we won't do any severe oil rigging in alaska.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
I swear there's at least five or six trucks at my school with monster wheels.
Honestly I think independent is the best way to go at these times :/
I'm democrat, but my bros liberal and he's fucking insane. he's convinced me (well I convinced myself) that all liberals are like him and I'm staying democrat :p. Just be glad he can't be re-elected.
lmao Iron you like how this thread went from crtiquing a picture to flaming spam about the US? :lol:
True dat.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_
Dude if it wasn't the government it was never/already stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
You think Bush can make that up?
This statement makes no sense whatsoever...Quote:
Originally Posted by genryu
Please explain what you are trying to say.
You said that Bush did some bullshit as in declaring the war, but who put him into that idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Ummm his own dumbass self. It's common knowledge that the Bush family is involved in the oil business. Lol they own one of the main oil companies that deals directly with Iraq for godsake. Of course it was his own idea. And after the Patriot act wasn't renewed he fired a bunch of people that disagreed with him. It's all President Bush's idea, and all the liberals are too pussy whiped with bribes to do anything but bitch to the House of Representatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by genryu
Sooooooooo, when is the new election coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Next November. And I'll be voting. :P
You sure Bush isn't gonna fuck that up too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
It's his last term as President. Can't run for president again.
yeah....he can only mess up Florida twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by genryu
http://www.lewzworld.com/simpsons/woohoo.jpg
:D ?
I'll stop posting.
Spam >pQuote:
Originally Posted by genryu
Holy shit Iron I had no idea you knew so much about the US and shit O.o
I like this forum of thought, but I take quite an opposite approach to this situation. Africas' tribes do not try and maintain any quality of life; they do not attempt agriculture, but rely on the wild life surrounding their "home." The problem is migration, or the fact that most tribes kill all the wild life, but I could care less for their situation; where do you think the stereo type came from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
I am inclined to double post because this is utter bullshit. The executive branch CAN NOT declare war, the legistlative branch is the only branch capable of such an act. Now, how many people run the executive branch is made of? If you say one, then you are horribly mistaken. Does anyone hear honestly believe the president plays a major role in politics (his own ideas and opinions are projected unto the public?)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Actually, no, I will not explain anymore; obviously no one payed attention in class, or was breast fed this shit by bleeding heart liberals in some public school, being lead on by the media. "Bush is bad," the media has said since day one; now what would your opinion be after that constant brainwashing, then band wagones eating it up to pressure the rest of the peer media? That's it, now learn on your own.
and you believe media is liberal because you conform to what everyone says, which proves your point. In fact, most media is quite "centrist" and doesn't have a side ( as is of most journalists). Stupid conservatives use that as a scape goat for their own problem. don't you dare tell me that the biggest right-winged conservatives on Fox News are liberal. Don't you dare.Quote:
Originally Posted by locust
My thoughts on the picture, given the context here:
It really does hurt to lack a brain.
My thoughts on US politics:
Hardly any politician ever does it right. but republicans are the worst. They're no more than greedy idiots.
this is retarded =\
wat i have heard is all the money we donate and shit (mostly the government's donations ) the country that hasnt go much recourses etc etc there government spends it on them selve and a little bit on the people that are ill ,hungry etc well thats wat i have heard >.<
NO trust me, Concentration camp were worse.Quote:
to me, it looks like a concentration camp
hmm the pic looks a bit editted to me, not saying its all wrong but I think they made it look worse then it is (not much worse tho)
Nice debate going on here, even though it's not about the picture from the first post :tp:
I don't know that much about American politics and I have to say that, at this point, I don't even want to know (cause it will probably piss me off). I am, however, inclined to agree with Iron_Maiden here. I could probably say alot about this, but it will probably come out like what he said (that would be my intention anyways).
Though I do have to ask ruffkiller 'Do you even have a brain?', because of his God remark. I mean, what the fuk is that all about? Personally, I know there is a God and I'm glad he doesn't touch our free will. Because if he intervened, our free will would be destroyed, and that is something I consider very important. Of course, us humans tend to fuk things up in life, but at least we have the free will to do that.
I hope this all came out right, cause everything I say, which is 'God-related', tends to come out wrong O_o. It's one of the reasons I stopped giving a big explanation on why I'm religious (to people who ask). People often give me a weird look afterwards -_-
You are correct sir. But this is not what happened. Bush went against Congress and ordered the "liberation" of Iraq without approval of the senate. Sorry but that's what happened...read the tabloids man.Quote:
Originally Posted by locust
yar quote for the thruth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Exactlly what I was going to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Konrow
i just think that if it is there culture to starve themselves and to keep this tradition going i say its fine with me.
dude im not saying ppl in north america dont work hard for their money but for the few millionairs it isnt really hard work.... second... im saying people in north america are cheap... you ever hear the quote "aslong as it doesnt affect me im fine with it"Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Yeah how do you think millionaires made their money? And if it doesn't affect me I really don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
im not blaming god im just saying if he exists then he's not doing a good job at it.... its like the fat man and the servants working their ass off for a buck a day lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Millionairs won the lottery.
you ever watch the vdeios of what happened to the pentagon in 2k1? wheres the remains of the plane? why was the impact not as harsh as on the twin towers? could it be because the us fucked up and bombed themselves lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
ok i quit answering to this crap this is my fucking view if you dont like it then gues what? go fuck urself
stupid north american governements are designed to always fuck the little guy over while giving the biggest fucking tax cuts to the richest of all fucks
Yea well some of your veiws are based on pure bias towards your own country even thoguh there some contreversies like 9/11 which i agree was fucking retarded and proabably done by us, but seriosuly soem of your veiws are just things people in toher countries say cause they hate the US and are bias.
i dont hate hte us citizens.... i hate the us government as in the system
thank god i live in canada, dont get me wrong im not from here originaly moved here when i was 10 and a few years ago my dad passed away and thats where the system fucked us over.... single mom two kids barely enough to live by all we have is bills.... right now i have the internet and thats all no tv just the simple basics lol i can hardly wait till i get my ass into college and start ranking up the big bucks (but why should i complain about this although my situation isnt all that nice theres always someone worst off so im good where i am, all i can do is build on it.)
The US government is based on the people. It's a democracy you ignorant canadian. Democratic nations around the world base their constituion off ours originally. Canada makes most of it's money by selling exports to the US. It's pathetic how countries in trouble come running to the UN or US governments for help and then turn around and fucking critisize us on how we handled the situation. I say the US should just leave you third world fuckers to fend for yourselves. See how you like it when NO ONE gives a shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
And stop making biast opinions ruffkiller. It's not a debate when your opinions are purely biast towards the US. So please don't post in this thread anymore unless you actually have an unbiast opinion.
I'm sure there was many idiotic responses, most probably from young idiotic children. It shows plight.
my opinion: nothing to say, im not able to do nothing right now. i feel pitty but still its not my problem. :)
Well.. I'll start by talking about the picture.
The picture is a horrible sight, but people dont understand that it is not an uncommon sight in third-world countries. The wealthy countries are lucky that they were able to have a rich past, which did...unfortunately require them to even conquer countries in Africa. In a way we are responsible for the poverty that these people have, but in another way they are too. The Sahara is the worlds largest desert located in Africa. It was created by the process of desertization, brought on by people grazing there cattles in the land and not allowing new plants to grow. If the Sahara were an active rain forest then Africa might not be in such a spin. People must also understand that not all third-world countries can be helped. The United States and the other super-powers arent going to risk the lives of their innocent military men and women to better a doomed country. In the end it IS survival of the fittest.
And the remark about the Pentagon not being hit as hard as the World Trade Center was a stupid one. The WTC was made of steel and glass, the Pentagon IS made of reinforced stone and steel. You can throw a grenade at a wall and it wont blow very easily. The architects didnt think a Jumbo Jet going at high speeds would be crashed into the building. Plus No one can really compare the size of the damage to each building because the towers were eventually collapsed.
The United States got where it is today with much heartache and a lot of suffering. The United States sunk to its lowest and rose to its highest with the efforts of the Government and the efforts of its people. We got where we are today because of hard work and determination to be the best. Perhaps these suffering countries need to learn to do the same. Make some allies and get some help. Most third-world countries are controlled by tyrants, and the US cant do a DAMN thing without US citizens saying it doesnt want to become Imperialist. Basically it is our fault we cant help these people, and it is something the US has to deal with.
I dont care what people in other countries care(European countries), the US CANNOT help these people without some sort of conflict stopping us. THE US IS NOT INVINCIBLE, we have our own people to worry about. We have illegal immigration to worry about. We have corruption to worry about. We have terrorism that we are responsible to stop. We have OUR GOD DAMN LIVES TO WORRY ABOUT. NOT THESE PEOPLE.
Oh and we have a struggling economy to worry about also....there's also oil shortages. How about homocide? Suicide? Civil Rights groups?
When we fix all of that we might help.
To bad it will never get fixed, so we will never help.
lol music to my ears. I like the way you think iron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
i shoudlnt have posted this , i was off my head on tablets :(
Lol.. I say you lock it Mental. These people are making me mad and also making me spit out viable points. I DONT SPIT OUT VIABLE POINTS! /cry... all my ideas should be stupid.
I'll :shutup3: now
:rofl: You have to admit...you did put debate in the thread name. What did you expect would happen? I'm surprised DTB doesn't have anything to say about this. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
Thanks Gatekeeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Gatekeeper_
No there isn't. We are just now drilling for our "own" oil in Alaska. And not to mention the billions of barrels left under the ground in Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by saden99
If they did it to themselves, I think that no one, absolutly no one should feel sorry for that. but explaining them that it's pointless sounds like not a bad idea.