Are you using vista atm, or planning to "buy" when it comes out or just wont worry about it?
I'm going to install beta2 when i get home :D.
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Are you using vista atm, or planning to "buy" when it comes out or just wont worry about it?
I'm going to install beta2 when i get home :D.
Vista...?? refresh my head...what is it?
The new Microsoft's OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by LightWarrior
Windows Vista.
I've B1, but i like it... is not for slowest pcs :P
Oh well , it won't run on my pile of scrap metal, even if it will - most games\progs will be fucked
You need like 2.0ghz++ to run it well.. and 1gig+ ram. And 2gig+ ram to run games fine. Hum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhewt
I'm happy with my current pc, P4 3.2ghz , 1.5 gig ram .... and games run perfect with a GeForce 6200 :P
Not bad, :D. What motherboard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhewt
ill br running it fo sho :P
I just installed B2 for kicks. Wasn't to impressed with B1 as it was just XP with some fancy stuff. B2 on the otherhand is quite amazing. Grapically speaking it's beautiful. Feature rich, easy to install and just runs nicely on my computer (4800+ X2, 2gb RAM, SLI 7800GTX).
The bad things about it is the fact you have no control over the install. Which is great for first timers but for advance users it's a pain. All you have to do is put the cd in. Pick the drive. And then put the cd key in. That's all. Just go off and come back in an half hour and it's done. Noting to it at all. Which is a shame.
Then the second thing is the GUI is a major RAM hogger. Looks nice but at the cost of 800mb RAM on a fresh install. I use about 600mb on RAM having so much going on in the back ground (virus scanners, antispyware, control panels, messenger, and a few other stuff). If I were to do that on Vista it will surely be over a gig at idle. So if I want the same performace as I get with 2gb of RAM on XP I'll need 4gb of RAM for Vista.
Another thing that annoyed me is the fact it swaps drive letters around on you. With pasts windows if I install it to G then it says G and not C. So that confused the hell out of me. It swaped the C drive for the E drive. So I was looking around in the C drive for the boot.ini and it was in teh E drive. On the topic of boot.ini it configures it so it bypasses the older systems and wont let you select them from a list on a dual boot system. That really annoyed me and took an half hour to figure out how to fix that.
The last annoying this is everything is changed. The display pannel... The control pannel... The start menu (what's left of it)... The shutdown option... All of it changed and it's annoying since you can't go back to classic. Especially the shutdown option. INstead of bringing up a menu for you to select shut down, restart, or hibernate it auto selects hibernate for you. Which is annoying because now you need to click this arrow box not near the actually button to open a list to do thoes things. What a pain in the arse it is.
Anyways back to the topic. Will I be getting Vista when it comes out. The answer is mostliekly yes. But I'll be needeing to get a Conroe, 4 gigs of RAM, and a DX10 card before I do so. Otherwise I'm sticking to XP because I hate performance loss.
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I heard that Vista will be running on 64 processors only that true?
no theres a 32 bit option also.
32 and 64 bit ediitions are ready for download from the microsoft website.Quote:
Originally Posted by r1moza
Also, 800meg is crazy.. jeez i get annoyed when i have like 300meg usage :P
To those worried about Ram, with Vista you will be able to have USB Ram so you wont have to hassle over what kinds of rams will work etc. At least thats what Microsoft says.
I tryed a beta 2 moths ago, but I couldn't install my GeForce driver, and my comp was restarting after 15 min of running that OS... I like the grafic design but, I don think I'll try it again to soon.
I'll probably get it when I get another gig of ram and a 7900gt
wont ever get it.
lolz... wtf?! so much performance is needed to run games on it? T___T *goes stopping the download for beta2* stupid shit... ;___;"
hmmmm... is dual boot still enabled?
I find it pretty sad when a frikin' OS needs a gig of ram to run smoothly, I mean wtf.
hell no, 4 gigs of ram to run smooth, I mean wtf is that. no more then around 5% of the computer users has more then 2 gigs ram
4? Where's it say that? My comp needs a major upgrade -.-
I tried to but when i did it said 1/2 my drivers wouldnt work and id need to delete alcohol120 (which i was using to install the dam thing)
Maybe when i get a DVD+RW and drivers for it start being released?
I'm getting it as soon as an official release comes out, I don't like using betas, tbh.
I'd rather get a full out GUI hack for XP than get bulky Vista with its ghey security features for uber computer dumb asses. I turned off EVERYTHING in Vista and yet it was using ~400MB RAM with the classic Windows 2000 theme. My XP build (stripped some crap out) with FlyAKiteOSX uses about ~178MB when I'm sitting on the desktop (MSN, xfire).
I'm definitely gonna invest in Samsung and Kingston pre Vista final release.
Ditto :screama:Quote:
Originally Posted by Forcystos
I heard Halo 2 for PC will only run on Vista so I'll probably have to get it.
Windows XP needs a gig to run smoothly and Vista just needs two. I myself would want 4 gigs for more headroom for multitasking. As why I have 2gb for XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch40t1c
Dual boot is always enabled but it configures your boot.ini to avoid it. :glare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamuro
More like %5 of computers has just 2gb.Quote:
Originally Posted by pietertje
It says it needs 512mb minimum and 1gb recomended but in reality you need 2gb for smooth running and 4gb for performance running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch40t1c
Yup it's going to be Vista only. Probally since it's going to be built off of DX10 instead of DX9 which DX10 is Vista only.Quote:
Originally Posted by meowmix11
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I think your seriously underestimating how many pcs their are in the world :pQuote:
Originally Posted by NoPeace
technicaly its probly somewhere in the region of 0.00001% if that 0o
ive had it for a bit but using power iso dont work with it so i think i need to get a disk :)
Meh im on work experience at pc world this week and one guy i know there copied vista for me and guess what i did.....left it there after doing a healthcheck on some guys laptop who got spyware, then made it 50x worse by trying to get an antispyware and ended up with four forms of spyaxe -_-
So if dx10 is Vista only, and we can assume that developers will be using dx10, that means that any self-respecting gamer is gonna HAVE to get Vista!Quote:
Originally Posted by NoPeace
That's just lame. They're simply forcing their product onto the people.
Either Microsoft will slim down Vista altogether, make a modded down version for performance users, or there will be groups on the internet slimming it down and releasing it to the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
Just look at nLite, people can cut tons of crap out of XP - no doubt a utility like that will come out for Vista too.
Ignore the system requirements. XP will happily run on a 20mhz processor with 8mb of ram.
According to mates who are testing it its just xp with a new skin.
it looks like they copied aston shell abit with the clock and date date and that
Anyone here's a beta tester?
Lol. I'm more refering to XP machines. Pre XP machines don't count since they wont even be able to touch vista. :tp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Bingo. That's how MS makes thier money. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
There is a Vista starter pack that is the most slim you can get. But it's like the XP starter pack. Hard to get anywhere out side of a 3rd world nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by theRAGE
Are you dumb? They day you can run XP on a 20mhz processor and 8mb of RAM is the day I die. XP wont install with anything lower then 32 megs of RAM. I've tested this. As far as processor. You'll need at least a P2. A P1 wont run it.Quote:
Originally Posted by maney
So the lowest you can actually go is a P2 with 32 mb of RAM. And if you do that good luck because it's going to take you forever to do anything on it.
And your friends are dumb or just using the alpha version. The command interface of Vista has had new things added and somethings removed. Sucks because I really love the edit command which is now removed.
Yeah... Pretty much they just ripped off OSX. So many similarites between the two now.Quote:
Originally Posted by *Saosin*
It's open beta now. SO if you feel like it you can download and install it on up to 10 computers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhewt
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Id still say 5% is pretty highQuote:
Originally Posted by NoPeace
Tho dell are doing an offer on desktops atm for 2gig ram...
In uni i doubt any pc has 2gig ram, thats a few thousand :p
It's about 5-8% to be honest. That's about the size of the enthusist market alone which 2gb is idea. Then you have the workstation market that's about 10% which about a 1/4 of them uses 2gb of more. SO that's about 5-8% of XP users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Also when you look into XP-64 bit. The majority of them run 1-2gb. Also when you look into the Server 2003. Nearly every computer will run 2gb or more.
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Good luck with that, its not xp with a new skin, it has lots of new features..Quote:
Originally Posted by maney
I got so sick of that skin after like 2 hrs :PQuote:
Originally Posted by theRAGE
And they were trying to expand vista to be more visually exciting.
So many people wish computer hardware advances faster. (100+ GHz, terrabytes of RAM etc.)
So many people (Probably over half the same as above) complain about high requirements for new softwares/games that aren't even released yet.
Make up your mind, please. Personally, I am for the high requirements, as long as the quality rises, too.
Just to mention in advance, this is not only about Windows Vista.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch40t1c
your looking at it the wrong way. a gig of ram and stand alone graphics card is going to be the standard, the minium in a year or 2. that means we'll start seeing better hardware put into comps built by major suppliers like dell, gateway, etc.
1gb is the standard for new computers today.Quote:
Originally Posted by gizzmo
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Still, why should I care if windows looks good or not?
I just wanna be able to do whatever I want, and quickly too!
Never heard of Moore's law?Quote:
Originally Posted by JcxZero
I know how fast pcs will upgrade, tho its getting harder to do so i must admit...
Windows > Vista
If I had a 64 bit proccessor I would...
i have it, i wouldint recomend it.... nothing works for it atleast not properly for 32 bit even those that are out for windows platform no games my mic doesnt work so soundcards are skrewed o and if you have a 64 bit pc dont even think about connecting to the net because vista wont alow you.... theres no network card drivers yet for 64 bit so tough luck....
you can do it on 32 bit.... i have 32 bit and vista installed fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
Im on vista atm,
I have to admit,
Its cool
But it eats alot of ram,
Vista uses like 600 mb ram here 0_o
Anyways its nice
Isn't that the beta though?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
Vista will and is 32 bit, since they figured most people have 32bit processors.
Aston is an alternative explorer shell for Windows 9X/ME/NT/2K/XP :XQuote:
Originally Posted by NoPeace
Apparently quite light-weight... but there are MANY explorer shell alternatives... gonna keep looking around till I actually bother installing one though.
astons very buggy
It was getting harder for PCs to get faster for some time but they found a way around the speed barrier. More cores. So over the next 5 years you'll more and more cores added to processors. They have already begun development of 8 cores on a single chip which should be out in 2008. O.OQuote:
Originally Posted by Robert
What you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefilim
What are you smoking? No network support for 64-bit? I have it installed and both of my 1000 gigabit network ports work. oOQuote:
Originally Posted by ruffkiller
Beta is both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Maiden
No. All computers except for laptops that have been sold in the last 2/3 years have been 64-bit. There is a 32-bit solely because of the laptops being 32-bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Isn't Aston the one from OSX? oOQuote:
Originally Posted by theRAGE
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this is aston
uhm, no. My pc aint even 2 years old and it aint 64bit, while being sub-top when I bought it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoPeace
http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/Windo...ta%20Chess.jpg
Vista is like a new mac style.
Umm... Any mainstreem pc made by any major company has had a 64 bit processor for the last 2 years. The last year the PCs has been dual cores. Which are all 64-bit. The year and a half before was the P4 6 series which was 64-bit. And of course all AMD 64 are well 64-bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
For any budget PC it's been primarly 32-bit. Thoes are the old Shemprons (new ones are 64 bit) and the Celerons. So if you got yourself a P4 5 series less then 2 years ago and that was sub-top then you got ripped off.
That's B1. WHich the GUI is mostly a skinned XP. Check out B2 where it's much like mac OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt.James
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