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hope ye all got your Nuclear fall out shelters built, looks like we gon have us a good old fashioned war.. also was reading in another article the chinese have accepted the sanctions but have yet to enforce them, goods still flowing into N Korea as normal...
spooky stuff huh!
A war between America and N.Korea.. problem here is that Korea has not yet achieved distanced missiles , plus the majority of whom are backing the usa.. after all.. the UN did all come to agree that n.korea should abide by these new rules... anyways.. singular country vs allot more.. doubt it cause any concern but still not a nice thing.
But if the chinese do chose to back their communist ally and neighbour its a whole different ball game... guess its just a case of sitting and waiting... I can't really see that even the Chinese as powerful as they are would want to cross the majority of the UN, although most of them would just do what the french do n back down from any war, leaving the job up to us brits as usual =-PQuote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
*sighs*
It should be China or Russia attacking North Korea, not the United States.
A war between North Korea and the US would be the best thing that ever happened to NK. It would be exactly like Japan. We would first bomb the shit out of them and then we would rebuild their country better than it ever was before.
I support war against North Korea, but I believe an attack against them should be a joint operation.
i second Kaoii´s thoughts here...
I think, that until N Korea is such an instabil country as it is now, it should´nt have even a nuclear power plant, not to mention a missile....
altho i live in a country, which will hardly fall under any kind of nuclear attack..i sincereley hope, that it never goes that far again
ffs, oho well it can't be helped I guess.
o.O that article said they cant say for sure it was nuclear but i was reading on another site think reuters which said the US had confirmed it was nuclear.. is amazing how in this day and age how very little anyone actually knows lol... so much news today.. this, rail crashes etc
Obvious something went wrong. A 5000 ton bomb is weak on the nuclear scale. Hell the US has a 10,000 ton non nuclear bomb. A properly made bomb should in therory never be below 10,000 tons.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentaL
Also this act by North Korea is so predictable. I've said it before and I'll say it again. They only want nukes to force other countries to submit to them out of fear. That is all that they are doing with them.
I'm just waiting to see how long China is going to push this out or when North Korea officially delcears war on the US. When either or happens it will be invaded and the US will have support in it (as they don't want to bother going in alone).
It's just a matter of time for a UN/NATO force to go over that southern board and/or a Chinese/Russian force go over the north boarder.
Would be great to see what Kaoii said. The US bombed the fuck out of Japan and South Korea and then rebuilt it and look how well they are doing. Hope fully the same will happen with North Korea. Either it's rebuilt better like the rest or just merged with South Korea again.
NoPeace - out
No. It should be China , Russia and North Korea attack USA. Since USA so like to control other people. If North Korea just testing the nuclear weapon, then why USA can have a powerful nuclear bomb? USA is acting like the earth police. And there are some spy in every country as i known.
Haiz~~ Nuclear should not be invented.....
This is just the start of another world war i swear. If you look at the first world war. The austrian/hungary empire was putting pressure on serbia or was it the other way around? Forget, anyhow. Who ever was getting pressured then asked russia to help. Then since russia got involved, germany was asked to help, then france, then england and the colonies of england. This is the way it will happen again. Everyone will get sucked in.
France were asked to help? u mean hide in paris n hope they didnt get invaded... Belguim saved their asses n any historian knows that.. floodin their fields n all that so the germans couldnt invade france properly... and the brits arrived on time... and the austrians were loved by germans so was serbian/montinegro dude that shot that austro-hungarian franz guy (wanna say franz ferdinand but get the feeling id be stupid if i did)
If xmen has taught me anything, it is that mutants can be fun and sexy.
France was allied with Serbia or some other country and was asked to help therefore they agreed to help and yeah, they mostly stayed at home i believe after they got slaughtered however. Belguim was a neutral country until germany decided to attack france from behind which required going through belguim. And since belguim was neutral and wanted nothing to do with the war, germany violated their treaty or some shit they had in place which is why the english got involved in the war and at the time their colonies as well. I forget if belguim actually even did anything. =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratboy
they technically didnt fight but they flooded their fields and such so the germans advanced slower, and led to famine in the years after the war... no belguim chocolate :'(
war doesnt solve anything. they should just force a new government or something. by means of assassination/pre-emptive strike if nothing else -_- that's a lot better than having a full scale war in a country that (has to) live(s) for the military.
Pay a suicide bomber :pQuote:
Originally Posted by NeoSparky
seriously though we need to keep providing support to north korea, the poor people are already starving. Without provisions from us there all just going to die. Which will only lead to loads of charitys begging for money which already piss me off enough as it is!
Quickest and easiest way to win is to kill Kim Jong. One kill and that will pretty much solve alot of this stuff. Sure the next president might try the same thing, do it again. Eventually they will get the message, or no one will want to be president :p
lotsa speculation.
If it's gonna be US vs. NK, the US could only lose.
They didnt win in the '50s either...
will you people stop the US isn't the only country who dosent want NK to be testing nuclear weapons
But they're the only country we that we absolutely KNOW will get involved in yet another situation that doesn't concern them. Because when idiots like bush is in power, every move a country makes suddenly becomes nearly predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by vinzone
rofl what will ge do with the money if he's gonna die lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Robert
btw if u keep sending support to NK then the army will just take it over and use it for them selfs... also i agree with killing Kim jong as he is a old asshole who needs a shotting... he sould feed his country then let it starv
yea but we always get allies cause people feel its there duty to help because its like you when feel the need to help a retard...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendaku~Metal
Are you stupid? Why are you so anti-American. If you knew your details, you would know that the USA didn't win ONLY because the Soviet Union joined in. WOW. And the Sovet Union and the USA were the two major world powers are that time...so it ended up being a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
I hate those anti - americans.
Get your facts right.Quote:
Originally Posted by yowsup
Only when the US greatly outnumbered the North Koreans did they start winning battles - this was even before the intervention of Chinese and Soviet forces. (Note that the only thing the Soviets did was send a relatively small number of Mig-15's to fly under Chinese colours)
Thereafter, the Chinese moved into North Korea, and fought the US forces a couple of times, as a warning. The US, ofcourse, didn't understand the meaning, and thought the Chinese had retreated because of weakness...
So as the US continued, the Chinese had enough, and delivered such blows to the American armies, that they had to retreat all the way to the south of Seoul...
Eventually the Americans managed to fight back to roughly the current border, and little changed after that.
Note that the Chinese, at this point, only had infantry, and no heavy support at all, against loads of tanks, artillery, and aircraft.
actually they need a few hukes to destroy our country we need like one to turn korea into a crater. In all honesty this is all a sign that the world is going to hell. I seriously hate fuckers like the government of Korea who think they can do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
yowsup, move on to the hate thread.
Anyway, I dont think there will be a nukkish war, lotsa missles and jets in the air above NK, and thats it.
Well then the UN and US will gather a bunch of billions to pay to NK...
Stupidty damnit...
Goverments suck, if all the goverments were peaceful and spread the grounds equally by the numebrs of civillians, then there would be peace... and stuff... but those are just dreams in our reality...
well ever heard the NPT?? go and read about it, that answer your question. quit thinking the US is the police earth.. >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by phakorn214
Please tell me I am not the only person getting the webpage talking about erections, if so, what the hell are you posting? O.OQuote:
Originally Posted by KongoIL
I had a feeling they were was going to be a declaration of war, why can't we all :group: and be happy.
thats just another something that NPT stands for ;)
Wiki found it first, then came the NPT that LightWarrior was tlaking about...
I know what else it stands for, just it was so strange seeing it in this thread. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by KongoIL
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Originally Posted by Kaoii
China 'was' North Koreas only ally...
If a war breaks out shit happens, and you never know china might help out NK, since they have the nukes...and probably don't want to get nuked seeing as how they share a huge border with them.
North Korea is talking really big, and i really doubt that they are bluffing a war decleration...
They probably on about 70% of the nuke project of theirs done, so untill its 100%, those are bluffs, but hey, they've got 70% already, Someone should do something against it...
Hiroshima Mark 2.
USA wont bother nuking them, in fact nobody will the global impact is too great, the reason that all this has happened in the first place is because we want to avoid nuclear wars and negotiations.
Last resort weapons, Unless N.Korea does something or launches a nuke, america wont waste their nukes, neither wil russia, china, UK, seriously. And even if N.korea was to launch a nuke long range, which they cant, it would never hit land. Their are nuclear counter measures.
If china starts shit with NK, which i doubt they will, there will be more tactical nuclear strikes in one night than you can imagine, one day its there, the next day there is a nuclear fallout cloud over NK.
SO instead of buying a fallout shelter, i'll spend my money on something else more interesting.
is there a theory that nuclear weapons or atom bombs can only be used in a certain band around the world and outside of that they will fail to detonate
and that is why when nuking japan non military targets were selected?
not sure if there is any grounding in that at all just something i remember hearing
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Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
LOL. My point was that the USA would've won the Korean War almost indefinately had China and the Soviet Union not intervened right?
So what if the USA outnumbered the North Koreans? That has nothing to do with it. They still WON and would've continued to win so i don't see your point...
Besides while China had only hand infantry it was 200,000 Chinese soldiers against 20,000.
My point still stands.Quote:
you would know that the USA didn't win ONLY because the Soviet Union joined in.
in my honest opinion.... its gonna die out and fizzle away :). I live in a world full of fluffy toys and candy hills..... the word 'nuke' is only the name of a gobstopper :)
I hope N Korea doesnt decide its time to inavde S Korea cause if it does I am not sure if we will be able to stop them.
What do you base your facts on?Quote:
Originally Posted by KongoIL
Where do you get t his 70% from?
Heh buddy, no I dont google or wiki stuff, I actually learned something from History and listened to the teacher.Quote:
Originally Posted by KongoIL
Please don't open a new thread about that, you might be the only person who doesn't know that...Quote:
Anyway, Anyone knew that Bush'es family hold some Oil (petroleum) related companies?
... I really don't know where this is gonna go, but the way i see it something will break out, because the US isn't giving North Korea any time, it's rushing the sanctions, and it isn't following North Korea's demands.
A small thing will spark war with NK...just a matter of time before it happens.
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Originally Posted by yowsup
Bullshit.
You only mentioned the Soviet Union, which were basically not even involved. Also, the US had around 180.000 troops there near the end of 1950,
and got more and more in after that.
They were hardly outnumbered (Chinese about 300.000), and to be on a stalemate with such a badly equiped opponent is plain sad.
if you support a WAR then you should be willing to join
America Fuck YEAH
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Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
Alot happened in 1950 - 2006(7)... I think its alot different and from the kind of shit I see the US Mili. Pull out their sleeve my opinion is this
Of course we'll take some damage, but the outcome will probably be US victorious as usual.
(*As much as I hate to say it*)
China and South Korea aren't stoping with the trade between them and north korea...I am guessing they gave in to North Koreas threats?
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If 3rd world war strikes in i will be missing RaGEZONE :(!
Prime example of american arrogance. =/:poster_ba lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly Doll Cinko
Hmm, no time for quotes, We've not learned about NPT,
the 70% are not facts, you should get yourself eyes for reading, I said "They are probably on about 70%" do you see any facts here? just my opinion.
I found out about Bush'es family oil business from the news on TV (Yeah, I have much more important things to do then seeking for info about Bush and other Politicans of the world).
Now, I am not sure about the sides of WW3, if it will happen, most likely US+UN+Russia+China+Japan+few other smaller less knowen countries like Israel, against NK+Iran (?)+Some other muslim - arabic countries IE Syria.
Not sure about this at all, so looking for someone to contribute some info about it...
How can you say that Russia and US will be together when they both own nukes, and were enemies for a long period of time. China isn't a big fan of the US either...and is also a communist country...as well it shares a huge border with NK.
And don't estimate what % their nuke project is on...if they've tested a nuke already it means that its been completed...and they are about to do more tests to show that the first was an actual test in a matter of time. The only thing that ppl don't know is if they are capable of attaching it to a long range missile.
I was talking about the whole nu8ke missles project, Russia got a seriuosly f0cked up govorment, and the people that rule there will request it to fight for the side of US because all their business are having some tradings and stuff with the US, China isn't stupid to fight against US, they are comunists, but they are not stupid.
I wounder who can threat the American Giant...
First of all the Chinese had white fur coats. Second of all , when the Chinese first atttacked, a surprise attack, it was 200,000 men against 20,000. By the time, the us completed retreat, there were 2500 dead and 25,000 dead for the Chinese. I'd hardly call that a stalemate.Quote:
Originally Posted by xeLJoYo
Yes the Chinese were poorly equipped AT FIRST, but later they were provided supplies and weapons by the Sovet Union and had an army of 700,000.
Yes the Soviet Union was involved, just indirecly and secretly. Had the Sovet Union not given supplies to China, the USA would've won.
You're American?Quote:
Originally Posted by bfpri
War is always a dirty business, Soviet Union always support all those countries where the goverment wasn't too established, so they were equiping local forces, sending there their helpers and stuff like that...