Problem with gunz client.

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30-12-06
henz123456

Problem with gunz client.

When i connect to the game press my account info its connect then say me there no character i press OK then its show me little movie with : Maiet and Train and before i press on somthing its close the game and say to me to send my bug to somewhere...
MY PC = AFTER FORMAT AND VIDEO CARD UPDATED.

please help me :{
my MLOG :

GUNZ 1,0,0,290 launched. build (Dec 19 2005 12:58:23)
Log time (12/30/06 03:09:44)
CPU ID = GenuineIntel ( family = 15 , model = 4 , stepping = 1 ) @ 2992 MHz
Display Device = NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT ( vendor=10de device=140 subsys=31251458 revision=a2 )
Display Driver Version = 6.14.0010.9371
Windows = 5.1 Build 2600 , Service Pack 2 (523564KB) : Windows xp..
CheckSum: 4202341893
Serialkey error : 202
crc error , file dbghelp.dll ( current = 3eda5be5, original = 0 ).
crc error , file fmod.dll ( current = 8280aba8, original = 0 ).
crc error , file gdiplus.dll ( current = 45d253dc, original = 0 ).
crc error , file gunz.exe ( current = d7da8755, original = 0 ).
crc error , file shader/skin.vso ( current = ed129f8f, original = 0 ).
crc error , file shader/skin1.vso ( current = 28122b3a, original = 0 ).
crc error , file system/abuse.txt ( current = 6900db55, original = 0 ).
crc error , file system/channelrule.xml ( current = 79c58309, original = f847e5f5 ).
crc error , file system/scenario.xml ( current = 65927692, original = 2d6399e4 ).
crc error , file system/strings.xml ( current = d7fadd95, original = 4e21d489 ).
crc error , file system/system.xml ( current = 7fe7d4cb, original = c09bfbb5 ).
crc error , file system/zitem.xml ( current = ca8ef7c3, original = 5632d468 ).
crc error , file xpatch.exe ( current = fecce498, original = 0 ).
crc error , file xtrap/psapi.dll ( current = 9a30424b, original = 0 ).
crc error , file xtrap/xdatafi0.xtp ( current = cc3326c4, original = 0 ).
crc error , file xtrap/xtrap.xt ( current = 71605c77, original = 0 ).
crc error , file xtrap/xtrapapi.dll ( current = 6946b07, original = 0 ).
WFog Enabled Device.
device created.
Video memory 149.000000
main : RGetLenzFlare()->Initialize()
main : ZGetInitialLoading()->Initialize()
main : g_Mint.Initialize()
ZApplication::OnCreate : begin
0(מנהל התקן קול ראשי): Hardware Mixing Supported
1(Realtek HD Audio rear output): Hardware Mixing Supported
[[[getMaxChannel48]]]]
LoadWave: Error creating hardware sound buffer.

-------------------> Sound Engine Create : 0.880000

ZApplication::OnCreate : m_SoundEngine.Create
1
3
ZGameInterface::LoadBitmaps
ZGameInterface::LoadBitmaps2
loading pictures : 0.881000
warning : bitmap slot_head.tga not found.
warning : bitmap slot_head.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
IDLResource Loading Success!!
IDL resources : 0.306000
ZGameInterface::InitInterfaceOption
Number of Display mode : 104
Number of Display mode : 104
ZGameInterface::InitInterfaceOption ok
::InitMaps() > No Current ChannelRule
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : InitInterface
Screen Effect Manager Create : 0.151000
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : m_pScreenEffectManager->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : m_pEffectManager->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : g_pGameClient->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : done
Bird : 5

-------------------> GameInterface Create : 1.624000

ZApplication::OnCreate : GameInterface Created
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_pInterface->OnCreate()
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_MeshMgr.LoadXmlList(character.xml)

-------------------> Character Loading : 1.248000

-------------------> WeaponMesh Loading : 0.329000

----------> in zip ( model/weapon/item/chocobar.elu ) file not found!!
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_WeaponMeshMgr.LoadXmlList(weapon.xml)

-------------------> Worlditem Loading : 0.021000

ZApplication::OnCreate : CreateConsole
ZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchItemDescMgr()->ReadXml
Error while Read Item Descriptor system/zeffect.xmlZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchItemEffectDescMgr()->ReadXml
ZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchWorldItemDescMgr()->ReadXml
ZApplication::OnCreate : ZGetChannelRuleMgr()->ReadXml
Error while Read Abuse Filter system/abuse.xmlZApplication::OnCreate : MGetChattingFilter()->Create

-------------------> ETC .. : 0.242000

main : g_App.OnCreate()
RBspObject::Open : begin interface/login/login.rs
RBspObject::Open : Open_MaterialList
RBspObject::Open : Open_LightList
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : begin
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : size 13
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : end
RBspObject::Open : OpenDescription
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Open
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Read(&header)
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Read(&nMaterial)
RBspObject::OpenRs : Open_Nodes begin
RBspObject::OpenRs : Open_Nodes end
RBspObject::Open : OpenRs
RBspObject::Open : OpenBsp
RBspObject::OpenLightmap : file.Read(&header)
RBspObject::OpenLightmap nCount = 1
RBspObject::OpenLightmap 0
RBspObject::OpenLightmap : file.Read(&m_nLightmap) done
RBspObject::OpenLightmap : end
RBspObject::Open : done
ZInterfaceBackground::LoadMesh pMapDesc->LoadSmokeDesc
main : OnCreate() done
Server Connected
Login Posted
Login Successful.
Responsed Account Charlist
Crash ( 03:10:18 )
Build Dec 19 2005 12:57:35

[Exception]
Address : 004b4213
ExpCode : c0000005
Flags : 00000000
#Param : 00000002
other : 00000000

[Context]
GS : 00000000 FS : 0000003b ES : 00000023 DS : 00000023
EDI: 00000000 ESI: 02ba60b4 EBX: 02ba60c0 EDX: 02ba60c0
ECX: 7ffde000 EAX: 00000000 EBP: 0012f60c EIP: 004b4213
CS : 0000001b Flg: 00010246 ESP: 0012f464 SS : 00000023

[Stack]
77d48bf6 02ba5f4c 00000000 004b4874 02ba5f4c 06612420 00162780 000010b1
0012f500 4fe59ec4 00000000 00000000 0012f5fc 005bb7a8 ffffffff 004b4bbd
0012f4c0 0012f4c4 0012f4d4 77d48bf6 02ba5638 00000004 00151dc0 00000000
00000000 00000000 03020100 07060504 3c5b8c3e 0f0e0d00 14131211 4fe1cc4e
00143120 00000000 0000000f 0012f498 0012f558 4ff51700 00000000 0012f51c
4fe76b14 3f0e8000 bf414800 be33ac00 4fe73fa3 00000050 0012f564 bf49e8b6
b3141233 00000000 00000454 00000002 00000006 00162780 00000002 00000454
4fe731e5 06317930 00000004 00170180 0012f534 0012f5ac 4ff52000 c2c66c32
432bd6c8 4fe636e7 00000006 00000002 00162780 0012f5b8 4fe58acd 00162780
00155040 00162784 00164930 00162780 000000ff 00162784 00000000 432bd6c8
00162784 0012f58c 0012fe88 4ff51678 3b128aa8 3be8bb40 0041436e 00162780
00000006 00000002 0012f604 0000001c 00000163 03094358 03093e48 00000000
00000000 3f800000 00000000 3f800000 a30724b5 02ba5638 0012fe88 005bb7cb
00000000 00000000 0517318e 004b8356 0517318e 77d48bf6 02bc4420 3b128aa8
02ba5638 00505bd0 77d48bf6 02bc4420 004436ce 77d48bf6 0063cb18 77d496b8
00000000 001519f8 00155040 00155020 00000000 00001e60 00000004 0012f690

SymGetSymFromAddr error 487
frame : (01) : PC Address : 004b4213
Param[0] : 0517318e
Param[1] : 77d48bf6
Param[2] : 02bc4420
Param[3] : 3b128aa8
ModuleName : Gunz
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 487
frame : (02) : PC Address : 004b8356
Param[0] : 069604ad
Param[1] : 0c7e0721
Param[2] : 0d790d87
Param[3] : 090e0e99
ModuleName : Gunz
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 126
frame : (03) : PC Address : 044f0502
Param[0] : fff2ffde
Param[1] : fff4ffdc
Param[2] : fff4ffde
Param[3] : fff0ffe0
SymGetModuleInfo error 126
SymGetLineFromAddr error 126
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 126
frame : (04) : PC Address : fff6ffdc
Param[0] : 00000000
Param[1] : 00000000
Param[2] : 00000000
Param[3] : 00000000
SymGetModuleInfo error 126
SymGetLineFromAddr error 126
Function Name : <nosymbols>

please help me :{
30-12-06
MentaL

try redownloading the client :)
30-12-06
henz123456

I try this :\ the install go good... just in the select character...
30-12-06
SirMaster

you need change in filelist.xml the crc files:

crc error , file dbghelp.dll ( current = 3eda5be5, original = 0 ). : you need change from filelist.xml the crc current: 3eda5be5 to 0.

MentaL you avatar is crazy xD very good avatar ^^.
30-12-06
henz123456

i dont have this file :X :{
30-12-06
henz123456

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6103/gunzca4.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6103/gunzca4.jpg

this is my gunz folder! there missing files \ folders? if yes some one can to upload his gunz folder in rar? i mean all all from Maite...
thx...
30-12-06
HaruKisa

Your windows is so... hmm... strange
Have you launch the GunzLauncher ?
30-12-06
henz123456

yea man...
30-12-06
henz123456

please help me :(
30-12-06
InSightering

חן מה קורה זה יורי כפרה עליך ישך מושג למה אני לא מצליח להפעיל את ההקבוץ Gunz.exe
זה שאםשר להתחבר דרכו לשרת..
i have tha same problem
30-12-06
henz123456

התקנת תפאץ אחי? אני ישלח לך תגאנז.אייקסי שלי אולי תצליח :\
Please help us :(
30-12-06
Big-D1991

maybe some1 can make a guide?
then we don't get so much problems
31-12-06
lutchius

i would say you have the wrong system.mrs file. look for the post that has the 12/18/05 client files and try using that system.mrs.
02-01-07
henz123456

Some one? still unworking :(
Some one here with Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128mbit PCI-E
can tell me if his game working? and if yes which Graphic driver he used.
thanks.
02-01-07
gohan547

henz ur a noob.... (btw it's me Vegeta :P) what you need to do is unpack ur system.mrs, and do what SirMaster said.

"you need change in filelist.xml the crc files:

crc error , file dbghelp.dll ( current = 3eda5be5, original = 0 ). : you need change from filelist.xml the crc current: 3eda5be5 to 0.

MentaL you avatar is crazy xD very good avatar ^^."
02-01-07
henz123456

lol vegita your still alive? :D i will try...
02-01-07
virustheking

lol...
02-01-07
henz123456

^SPAMMER -.-

ok still the same problem , after train movie = freeze,stack,send report to the maiet.

my mlog now :
GUNZ 1,0,0,290 launched. build (Dec 19 2005 12:58:23)
Log time (01/02/07 19:02:48)
CPU ID = GenuineIntel ( family = 15 , model = 4 , stepping = 1 ) @ 2992 MHz
Display Device = NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT ( vendor=10de device=140 subsys=31251458 revision=a2 )
Display Driver Version = 6.14.0010.9371
Windows = 5.0 Build 2195 , (523564KB) : Windows 2000..
CheckSum: 343081790
Serialkey error : 202
WFog Enabled Device.
device created.
Video memory 149.000000
main : RGetLenzFlare()->Initialize()
main : ZGetInitialLoading()->Initialize()
main : g_Mint.Initialize()
ZApplication::OnCreate : begin
0(מנהל התקן קול ראשי): Hardware Mixing Supported
1(Realtek HD Audio rear output): Hardware Mixing Supported
[[[getMaxChannel48]]]]
LoadWave: Error creating hardware sound buffer.

-------------------> Sound Engine Create : 0.660000

ZApplication::OnCreate : m_SoundEngine.Create
1
3
ZGameInterface::LoadBitmaps
ZGameInterface::LoadBitmaps2
loading pictures : 0.938000
warning : bitmap slot_head.tga not found.
warning : bitmap slot_head.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
warning : bitmap icon_gameroom_s.tga not found.
IDLResource Loading Success!!
IDL resources : 0.336000
ZGameInterface::InitInterfaceOption
Number of Display mode : 104
Number of Display mode : 104
ZGameInterface::InitInterfaceOption ok
::InitMaps() > No Current ChannelRule
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : InitInterface
Screen Effect Manager Create : 0.206000
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : m_pScreenEffectManager->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : m_pEffectManager->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : g_pGameClient->Create()
ZGameInterface::OnCreate : done
Bird : 5

-------------------> GameInterface Create : 1.780000

ZApplication::OnCreate : GameInterface Created
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_pInterface->OnCreate()
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_MeshMgr.LoadXmlList(character.xml)

-------------------> Character Loading : 1.241000

-------------------> WeaponMesh Loading : 0.399000

----------> in zip ( model/weapon/item/chocobar.elu ) file not found!!
ZApplication::OnCreate : m_WeaponMeshMgr.LoadXmlList(weapon.xml)

-------------------> Worlditem Loading : 0.028000

ZApplication::OnCreate : CreateConsole
ZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchItemDescMgr()->ReadXml
Error while Read Item Descriptor system/zeffect.xmlZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchItemEffectDescMgr()->ReadXml
ZApplication::OnCreate : MGetMatchWorldItemDescMgr()->ReadXml
ZApplication::OnCreate : ZGetChannelRuleMgr()->ReadXml
Error while Read Abuse Filter system/abuse.xmlZApplication::OnCreate : MGetChattingFilter()->Create

-------------------> ETC .. : 0.246000

main : g_App.OnCreate()
RBspObject::Open : begin interface/login/login.rs
RBspObject::Open : Open_MaterialList
RBspObject::Open : Open_LightList
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : begin
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : size 13
RBspObject::Open_ObjectList : end
RBspObject::Open : OpenDescription
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Open
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Read(&header)
RBspObject::OpenRs : file.Read(&nMaterial)
RBspObject::OpenRs : Open_Nodes begin
RBspObject::OpenRs : Open_Nodes end
RBspObject::Open : OpenRs
RBspObject::Open : OpenBsp
RBspObject::Open : done
ZInterfaceBackground::LoadMesh pMapDesc->LoadSmokeDesc
main : OnCreate() done
Server Connected
Login Posted
Login Successful.
Responsed Account Charlist
Crash ( 19:03:13 )
Build Dec 19 2005 12:57:35

[Exception]
Address : 4fe64ff4
ExpCode : c0000005
Flags : 00000000
#Param : 00000002
other : 00000000

[Context]
GS : 00000000 FS : 0000003b ES : 00000023 DS : 00000023
EDI: 0cb3a8a0 ESI: 00175ec4 EBX: 00000000 EDX: 00175ec4
ECX: 7ffdf000 EAX: 00175ec0 EBP: 0013f5b4 EIP: 4fe64ff4
CS : 0000001b Flg: 00010246 ESP: 0013f590 SS : 00000023

[Stack]
03170e48 00175ec0 00000000 00175ec4 00000000 0013f590 0013fe88 4ff51b88
00000000 02a11ac0 0046b83c 0cb3a8a0 02efab08 02c93cd8 000003ff 03170e48
0cb3a8a0 c42fbf10 42db842a bf1523db 3f4a49e9 3dbcf012 00000000 000003ff
02c93cd8 02efab08 76b44e87 0f5674bb 00000000 0049fc95 00431d85 0046aaee
02c93cd8 0052ea31 02a11ac0 00000000 02efab24 02c93cd8 02efab08 00000000
00000000 00000400 00000300 0013f6ff 00000000 00000000 000003ff 000002ff
00000000 00000000 000003ff 000002ff 00000000 00000000 00000400 00000300
00000000 00000000 00000400 00000300 00000000 00000000 00000400 00000300
0052ea84 02a11ac0 0063d190 77d496b8 00000000 02a11ac0 00000000 00000000
00000000 02f87c94 02f87fff 00000000 00000000 000003ff 000002ff 00000000
00000000 000003ff 000002ff 00000000 00000000 00000400 00000300 00000000
00000000 00000400 00000300 00000000 00000000 00000400 00000300 00546d32
02a11ac0 0063d190 77d48bf6 00000000 0052e889 102e8c4c 102e8c30 00000000
0052e889 02efab24 02efab08 00000010 0052e889 00000000 0048c388 0063cb18
0048e5bd 77d4c96c 0048c412 004d6364 00000000 77d4c96c 3ae65170 0048c3ea
004d66b1 004d66b9 0013fe98 005c9edc 7c800000 00000000 00230148 00000202

frame : (01) : PC Address : 4fe64ff4
Param[0] : 0cb3a8a0
Param[1] : 02efab08
Param[2] : 02c93cd8
Param[3] : 000003ff
ModuleName : d3d9
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9
SymGetSymFromAddr error 487
frame : (02) : PC Address : 0046b83c
Param[0] : 0000ffff
Param[1] : ffff00ff
Param[2] : ffffffff
Param[3] : 02cdf388
ModuleName : Gunz
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 487
frame : (03) : PC Address : 00cdcdcd
Param[0] : 004145f0
Param[1] : 00413410
Param[2] : 00413430
Param[3] : 00413aa0
ModuleName : Gunz
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 487
frame : (04) : PC Address : 00414000
Param[0] : 082444f6
Param[1] : 56097401
Param[2] : 19c330e8
Param[3] : 04c48300
ModuleName : Gunz
SymGetLineFromAddr error 487
Function Name : <nosymbols>
SymGetSymFromAddr error 126
frame : (05) : PC Address : fffff978
Param[0] : 00000000
Param[1] : 00000000
Param[2] : 00000000
Param[3] : 00000000
SymGetModuleInfo error 126
SymGetLineFromAddr error 126
Function Name : <nosymbols>

thanks for helprs :| btw... it was working few month ago.
03-01-07
henz123456

help please
03-01-07
gohan547

היי

well i would suggest just redownloading ur client and re-installing it. re-installing the patch. and redownloading and reconfig-ing the server. and re-doing ur db. if it was working before it should work after u do that.
03-01-07
henz123456

my problem is teh client,i dont run server.
i try connect to LGkeiz server , its say me i dont have character i press ok then Train move come up and when the movie over and the buttons need to come,the game freeze and its say to me to send bugs.

היי

=]
03-01-07
gohan547

היי
well then, re-install ur client... :| or get on MSN and we can talk there :P
03-01-07
henz123456

ok i will download the msn now :D
03-01-07
EliteAk47

guys only eng on the forum.i am israeli 2 but we need to respect the rules.
ill be happy to help you henz123456

and about the err its not bug or something like this
its unknown files the MatchServer Search the Interface of the items and game templates he don't found him because that you get this errlog
03-01-07
H1GHL4ND3R

Quote:

Originally Posted by henz123456

Some one? still unworking :(
Some one here with Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128mbit PCI-E
can tell me if his game working? and if yes which Graphic driver he used.
thanks.

works fine with all gunz clients that i had tested
03-01-07
henz123456

OMG , i think its memory problem \ processor \ hard-disc problem or sata cable. i am going to fucking do with it somthing right now,256mb ram will be.
16-02-07
hokins

Quote:

Originally Posted by gohan547

henz ur a noob.... (btw it's me Vegeta :P) what you need to do is unpack ur system.mrs, and do what SirMaster said.

"you need change in filelist.xml the crc files:

crc error , file dbghelp.dll ( current = 3eda5be5, original = 0 ). : you need change from filelist.xml the crc current: 3eda5be5 to 0.

MentaL you avatar is crazy xD very good avatar ^^."

Explane plz how to unpack file "system.mrs"

thanks

EDIT: NVM I FOUND THAT MRS FILE UNPACKER :)
16-02-07
tirrom_xd

As I create a site helps me!
17-02-07
hokins

Grr

THIS IS FUCKING HOPELESS THINGY ! I UNPACKED THAT SYSTEM FILE, CHANGED FROM THAT FILELIST THAT VALUE TO "0" , PACKED AGAIN THAT AND REPLACED OLD SYSTEM.MRS IN GUNZ FOLDER AND WHAT I SEE WHEN I START LAUNCHER!!!! IT FILL RESTORE THAT FUCKING FILE AND IT STILL CRASH ARGHHHHHHHHHHH !!! NOW TELL ME HOW TO GET IT WORKING
17-02-07
MAXTRAXv3

um..didnt you know NOT to use the luncher, lol noob!
17-02-07
hokins

Omg

omg.. i am playing ijji gunz u know.. it wont start if i dont use lounder .. doh. u are a noob or tell me how to get it working without using launcher because file "Gunz.exe" wont start the game. :bad: