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• Executive Order 11001 provides for the mobilization of all civilians into work brigades under Government supervision
Harsh lol...
I guess it would only be used if absolutely necessary. Hey back breaking labour and no food might make some Americans loose weight :D
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I fucking hate my country's government :(
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NoOxygen
2011 will be a sad year.
what makes you say 2011 mate?
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Time for the Red Button I guess...
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THE UNITED STATES IS INSOLVENT.
Read this entire article before you react. Be sure you are sitting down.
We are OFFICIALLY scewed.
Economy
The United States is Insolvent
By Dr. Chris Martenson
Dec 26, 2006, 18:56
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Prepare to be shocked.
The US is insolvent. There is simply no way for our national bills to be paid under current levels of taxation and promised benefits. Our combined federal deficits now total more than 400% of GDP.
That is the conclusion of a recent Treasury/OMB report entitled Financial Report of the United States Government that was quietly slipped out on a Friday (12/15/06), deep in the holiday season, with little fanfare. Sometimes I wonder why the Treasury Department doesn't just pay somebody to come in at 4:30 am Christmas morning to release the report. Additionally, I've yet to read a single account of this report in any of the major news media outlets but that is another matter.
But, hey, I understand. A report is this bad requires all the muffling it can get.
In his accompanying statement to the report , David Walker, Comptroller of the US, warmed up his audience by stating that the GAO had found so many significant material deficiencies in the government's accounting systems that the GAO was "unable to express an opinion" on the financial statements. Ha ha! He really knows how to play an audience!
In accounting parlance, that's the same as telling your spouse "Our checkbook is such an out of control mess I can't tell if we're broke or rich!" The next time you have an unexplained rash of checking withdrawals from that fishing trip with your buddies, just tell her that you are "unable to express an opinion" and see how that flies. Let us know how it goes!
Then Walker went on to deliver the really bad news:
Despite improvement in both the fiscal year 2006 reported net operating cost and the cash-based budget deficit, the U.S. government's total reported liabilities, net social insurance commitments, and other fiscal exposures continue to grow and now total approximately $50 trillion, representing approximately four times the Nation's total output (GDP) in fiscal year 2006, up from about $20 trillion, or two times GDP in fiscal year 2000.
As this long-term fiscal imbalance continues to grow, the retirement of the "baby boom" generation is closer to becoming a reality with the first wave of boomers eligible for early retirement under Social Security in 2008.
Given these and other factors, it seems clear that the nation's current fiscal path is unsustainable and that tough choices by the President and the Congress are necessary in order to address the nation's large and growing long-term fiscal imbalance.
Wow! I know David Walker's been vocal lately about his concern over our economic future but it seems almost impossible to ignore the implications of his statements above. From $20 trillion in fiscal exposures in 2000 to over $50 trillion in only six years? What shall we do for an encore…shoot for $100 trillion?
And how about the fact that boomers begin retiring in 2008…that always seemed to be waaaay out in the future. However, beginning January 1st we can start referring to 2008 as 'next year' instead of 'some point in the future too distant to get concerned about now'. Our economic problems need to be classified as growing, imminent, and unsustainable.
And let me clarify something. The $53 trillion shortfall is expressed as a 'net present value'. That means that in order to make the shortfall disappear we'd have to have that amount of cash in the bank – today - earning interest (the GAO uses 5.7% & 5.8% as the assumed long-term rate of return). I'll say it again - $53 trillion, in the bank, today. Heck, I don't even know how much a trillion is let alone fifty-three of 'em.
And next year we'd have to put even more into this mythical interest bearing account simply because we didn't collect any interest on money we didn't put in the bank account this year. For the record, 5.7% on $53 trillion is a bit more than $3 trillion dollars so you can see how the math is working against us here. This means the deficit will swell by at least another $3 trillion plus whatever other shortfalls the government can rack up in the meantime. So call it another $4 trillion as an early guess for next year.
Given how studiously our nation is avoiding this topic both in the major media outlets and during our last election cycle, I sometimes feel as if I live in a small mountain town that has decided to ignore an avalanche that has already let loose above in favor of holding the annual kindergarten ski sale.
The Treasury department soft-pedaled the whole unsustainable gigantic deficit thingy in last year's report but they have taken a quite different approach this year. From page 10 of the report:
The net social insurance responsibilities scheduled benefits in excess of estimated revenues) indicate that those programs are on an unsustainable fiscal path and difficult choices will be necessary in order to address their large and growing long-term fiscal imbalance.
Delay is costly and choices will be more difficult as the retirement of the 'baby boom' gets closer to becoming a reality with the first wave of boomers eligible for retirement under Social Security in 2008.
I don't know how that could be any clearer. The US Treasury department has issued a public report warning that we are on an unsustainable path and that we face difficult choices that will only become more costly the longer we delay.
Perhaps the reason US bonds and the dollar have held up so well is that we are far from alone in our predicament. In a recent article detailing why the UK Pound Sterling may fall, we read this dreadful evidence :
Officially, [UK] public sector net debt stands at
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I doubt they have all the money backed up with gold currently. ZOMG PRINT MORE MONEYZ!
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I doubt they have all the money backed up with gold currently. ZOMG PRINT MORE MONEYZ!
this way prices will get higher..
allooooot higher....
and will affect world economy :P (petroleum)
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I'm glad I live in Canada. I just hope the North American Union never happens... D:
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George
this way prices will get higher..
allooooot higher....
and will affect world economy :P (petroleum)
Actually, if America's economy finally does crash, it would mean a lot less demand for petroleum so I'm guessing gas prices will drop. As for export, I do not have the exact figures, but I think especially japan and korea depend heavily on export to the US, so they will feel the blow. Not to mention the fact that most of the money is in fact lend from Japan, so I fear the US will take it along when the depression comes.
As for european countries, we'll have to change our exportlines to other markets such as Russia and China, and I think they will be in the end the ones most benefitting from it. In 50 years time I think we will see China as the worlds strongest superpower, Europe still in its own little world with a lot of high level technology (such as fusion reactors, maglev trains, etc), the USA in chaos, Canada overwhelmed with refugees, half of africa whiped out by AIDs and similar deseases, southern america doing pretty well for itself and I haven't got the faintest idea as to what will happen to russia.
Investing in gold will be smart, learning chineze probably smarter. All in all I don't think my life will be dull.. :icon6:
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George
this way prices will get higher..
allooooot higher....
and will affect world economy :P (petroleum)
I take it you didnt detect the sarcasm...
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People just love to slap terms like "concentration camps" on things like this. And in case no one knows just exactly when FEMA has the authority to step in. It has to be a fucking crisis emergency lock-down. Plus, FEMA has to have funding provided by Congress, both the Senate and House Of Representatives. So there won't be any type of holocaust anytime soon.
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Iron Maiden
People just love to slap terms like "concentration camps" on things like this. And in case no one knows just exactly when FEMA has the authority to step in. It has to be a fucking crisis emergency lock-down. Plus, FEMA has to have funding provided by Congress, both the Senate and House Of Representatives. So there won't be any type of holocaust anytime soon.
Yeah like.. next year maybe.
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NoOxygen
Yeah like.. next year maybe.
Or...not. Don't act like you can predict the future based on media polls and news critics.
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Tho it's going to happen eventually.
Just noticed this while reading another forum. Has nothing to do the the concentration camps, just US invading Iran.
Russian Intelligence Predicts U.S. Missile Strike on Iran in Early April
30.03.2007
Russian intelligence believes that the U.S. Armed Forces have nearly completed preparations for a possible military operation against Iran, and will be ready to strike in early April, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported on Friday quoting an unnamed source in the Russian security services.
The source said the U.S. had already compiled a list of possible targets on Iranian territory and practiced the operation during recent exercises in the Persian Gulf.
“Russian intelligence has information that the U.S. Armed Forces stationed in the Persian Gulf have nearly completed preparations for a missile strike against Iranian territory,” the source said.
American commanders will be ready to carry out the attack in early April, but it will be up to the country’s political leadership to decide if and when to attack, the source said.
Official data says America’s military presence in the region has reached the level of March 2003 when the U.S. invaded Iraq.
The U.S. is threatening Tehran with a military operation over Iran’s refusal to abandon its nuclear program.
The UN Security Council passed a new resolution on Iran Saturday toughening economic sanctions against the country and accepting the possibility of a military solution to the crisis.
Russian Intelligence Predicts U.S. Missile Strike on Iran in Early April - NEWS - MOSNEWS.COM
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Wow. Just...wow. Think for yourself for once Oxy. Russian intelligence? :rofl: Since when has their intelligence been reliable since the Cold War? And once again, you use yet another media "scare tactic" as a reliable basis for your future predictions. And also, the source they are getting their information from is unnamed, which means it's unreliable and possible bullshit. No names means no proof.
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02/17/07 "Express India" -- - London, February 17: The Bush administration's preparation to strike Iran is complete with the top commander of the US Central Command having received computerised plans for ‘Operation Iranian Freedom’, a report has said.
"American military operations for a major conventional war with Iran extend far beyond targeting suspect WMD (weapons of mass destruction) facilities and will enable President George Bush to destroy Iran's military, political and economic infrastructure overnight using conventional weapons," the journal New Statesman has claimed.
In a story titled Attack-Revealed: America's Plans to Invade Iran, the journal quoting British military sources, said ‘the US military switched its whole focus to Iran’ as soon as Saddam Hussein was removed from power. The White House continued this strategy, even though it had American forces bogged down in Iraq.
The US army, navy, air force and marines have all prepared battle plans and spent four years building bases and training for "Operation Iranian Freedom". Admiral Fallon, the new head of US Central Command, has inherited computerised plans under the name TIRANT (Theatre Iran Near Term).
Even as the sending of a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf has been highlighted, the US navy can put six carriers into battle at a month's notice.
The report said any US general planning to attack Iran could now assume that at least 10,000 targets could be hit in a single raid, with warplanes flying from the US or Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
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Are you just going to keep posting news articles? Or are you posting them to prove a point of view? Because I see none of your personal thoughts on the subject. Did you read the articles? Or did you just google, copy, and paste?
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Biggest Terrorists of all!
