[Guide] Choosing the Right Programs For Your Server

(Most of this guide is for Ascent users)
My Comments = Blue
Other's Comments = Red

[Ascent and Mangos] MySQL, XAMPP, Apache, or WAMP?
- Don't use just MySQL if your trying to make the server public.
- XAMPP is what I use and it hasn't disappointed me at all. It has Apache, and MySQL together.
- I used to use WAMP. It's easier to use the XAMPP. It also has Apache and MySQL together.
- I never used Apache.
- XAMPP and WAMP are the same thing pretty much. They both come with almost the same stuff.
- XAMPP (htdoc) and WAMP (www) folders are the same thing also. Just incase you're following a guide that refers to one of those locations.
- [Terabyte] Even better there is many web pages which guides you through setting up Apache, MySQL and PHP5 (all Latest) without all the baggage you get with the ones you mentioned.

Ascent or Mangos?
- I only used Mangos once a year ago. It was very buggy then but it was easy to setup. I don't know what it's like now.
- Ascent hasn't disappointed me that much at all. i prefer it more over Mangos.
- [Terabyte] Mangos has 5-10 Updates a Day and is coming along nicely but as I have not used Accent as I prefer fully open source.

[Ascent and Mangos] Start From Scratch or use a Repack?
- Avoid repacks at all costs. It is much better to start from scratch. Repacks may be easier but they could contain malware, difficult to update, and have more bugs.
- If you must use a repack for some reason, go with a popular one.
- if you must use a repack because you think it's too hard to setup a server, use a guide.

[Ascent] Ascent Stable or Ascent Trunk?
- Stable versions are obliviously more stable and crash less.
- Trunk versions have a higher chance of crashing but trunk's are updated a lot more then stable's.
- If your worried about your server crashing, use a server restarter.
- I use a trunk. It hasn't crashed on me in a very good while.

[Ascent] NCDB or RusDB?
- I heard RusDB is just a patched NCDB (Zul'Aman spawns and other stuff).
- I pefer NCDB over RusDB because NCDB is more up to date.

[Ascent] Normal Scripts or Moon++ Scripts?
- Normal scripts come with almost every Ascent binary released.
- Moon++ Scripts are used to fix certain instances and stuff. I prefer them over the normal scripts.
- You can only have one kind of script with DLL scripts. Like if you have "MoonInstanceScripts.dll" and "InstanceScripts.dll" (both do something with instances), you must choose what one you want. Obviously, the one with the word "Moon" in it, is the Moon++ Script while the one without the word "Moon" in it is the Normal Script.

[Ascent] LUA Scripts or DLL Scripts?
- Just have them both.
- Moon++ Scripts has merged with NCDB. You can find their scripts when you checkout NCDB.

[Ascent] SQL updates?
- Only certain SQL updates help you while others will not help at all. Run only what you need.
- I used all the SQL updates for the world database one time, couldn't use Trainers.
- Always backup your character database before you SQL update it for a certain Ascent revision.
- The file called "2527_world_equals_NCDB_rev690" in your "world_updates" folder means that if your NCDB was revision 690, it would equal 2527 meaning you should run any update above 2527 on your database I'm guessing.
- If you did a SVN update of your NCDB, you should of seen some update called "NCDB 831 = 2914". This means if you have NCDB 831, you must run all sql updates above 2914.

[Ascent] What SQL updates did I run?
- [Character] All of them.
- [World] "2665_wordfilter_character_names.sql" and "2665_wordfilter_chat.sql"

[Ascent and Mangos] Ascent Webcms, Krillin's Blizz-Like Frontend, or ABWOWS?
- I used them all. I like Ascent Webcms the best.
- All Signup pages are for certain server emulators. Choose the right one.
- Ascent Webcms is the easiest to setup without issues.
- I had many problems with Krillin's Blizz-Like Frontend.
- I had many more problems with ABWOWS.
- [Terabyte] Pick something that is updated a lot and secure plus if your hosting the web front end on the same line as your server, make sure you don't pick one that heavy on the graphics or people will lag the server grabbing the page.

[Ascent] What OS should I use to host the server?
- I'm pretty sure that Windows has the best support. Use it.
- Linux isn't a bad choice though.
- Mac OS X doesn't have a Ascent from what I heard.
- [Terabyte] Work with the O/S You can use - Linux might be more stable but pointless if your going to struggle working with it.

[Ascent and Mangos] SQlyog or Navicat?
- I think SQLyog is easier to use the Navicat.
- Use whatever your more comfortable with.
- [Terabyte] SQLyog is Free, NaviCat is a product you buy, personally I prefer Navicat myseft but whatever..

[Ascent] Ecko Tools or Alek's Ascent Restarter?
- I used both and I noticed no significant difference between them.
- Their both server restarts. I recommend Alek's Ascent Restarter because it's very user friendly.
- Ecko Tools however, has a database backup tool.

[Ascent] What do I use?
XAMPP, Ascent, NCDB, Normal Scripts with one Moon++ Script, Both DLL and LUA scripts, The last 2 SQL updates for the world database, Ascent Webcms, Windows, Alek's Ascent Restarter, and SQLyog.

[Ascent] What Ascent revision and Database should I use?
- Ascent 2.7-Trunk r2758
- Next Chapter Database r741
- I use that Ascent and NCDB at this very moment. Ascent hasn't crashed on me yet. I see no major problems in the Database either. If you were to start a server, go with that combination.

[Ascent and Mangos] Blizz-Like or Funserver?
- Use whatever you and the people on your server like.
- I personally like Blizz-Like servers the best.

Hope It Helps Anyone!
Would Be Nice If This Could Be A Sticky. :bigsmile:
Willing to add and change stuff if anyone has anything else to add...

Lol this is Useless.. CLose thread...
enough info is everywhere. noobs just have bad luck..

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Originally Posted by Recklezz

Lol this is Useless.. CLose thread...
enough info is everywhere. noobs just have bad luck..

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Is all this info posted in one convenient topic though?

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

MySQL, XAMPP, Apache, or WAMP?
- Don't use just MySQL if your trying to make the server public.
- XAMPP is what I use and it hasn't disappointed me at all. It has Apache, and MySQL together.
- I used to use WAMP. It's easier to use the XAMPP. It also has Apache and MySQL together.
- I never used Apache.

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Even better there is many web pages which guides you through setting up Apache, MySQL and PHP5 (all Latest) without all the baggage you get with the ones you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

Ascent or Mangos?
- I only used Mangos once a year ago. It was very buggy then but it was easy to setup.
- Ascent hasn't disappointed me that much at all. i prefer it more over Mangos.

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You used Mangos over a Year ago and its crap compared to Accent? Thats a Balanced Review is it not....
Mangos has 5-10 Updates a Day and is coming along nicely but as I have not used Accent as I prefer fully open source.

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

NCDB or RusDB?
- I heard RusDB is just a patched NCDB (Zul'Aman spawns and other stuff).
- I pefer NCDB over RusDB because NCDB is more up to date.

Normal Scripts or Moon++ Scripts?
- Normal scripts come with almost every Ascent binary released.
- Moon++ Scripts are used to fix certain instances and stuff. I prefer them over the normal scripts.

LUA Scripts or DLL Scripts?
- Just have them both.
- Both Moon++ and NCDB have LUA Scripts. I noticed nothing different about them. Use either one.

SQL updates?
- Only certain SQL updates help you while others will not help at all. Run only what you need.
- I used all the SQL updates for the world database one time, couldn't use Trainers.
- Always backup your character database before you SQL update it for a certain Ascent revision.

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This is all to do with Accent - so pointless answering this..

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

Ascent Webcms, Krillin's Blizz-Like Frontend, or ABWOWS?
- I used them all. I like Ascent Webcms the best.
- All Signup pages are for certain server emulators. Choose the right one.
- Ascent Webcms is the easiest to setup without issues.
- I had many problems with Krillin's Blizz-Like Frontend.
- I had many more problems with ABWOWS.

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Pick something that is updated a lot and secure plus if your hosting the web front end on the same line as your server, make sure you don't pick one that heavy on the graphics or people will lag the server grabbing the page.

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

What OS should I use to host the server?
- I'm pretty sure that Windows has the best support. Use it.
- Linux isn't a bad choice though.
- Mac OS X doesn't have a Ascent from what I heard.

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Work with the O/S You can use - Linux might be more stable but pointless if your going to struggle working with it

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Originally Posted by Espionage724

SQlyog or Navicat?
- I think SQLyog is easier to use the Navicat.
- Use whatever your more comfortable with.

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SQLyog is Free, NaviCat is a product you buy, personally I prefer Navicat myseft but whatever..

Thanks for the info Terabyte

Bump. Also added more information.

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Originally Posted by Recklezz

Lol this is Useless.. CLose thread...
enough info is everywhere. noobs just have bad luck..

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actually i found it very useful

NOOB

it was pretty useful, like, now i know that i'm gonna use both scripts

yea same here

Cool..glad I could help.

Remember...if u have moon++ and normal scripts (dll) you can't have 2 of the same kind. Example:

You have "Instances.dll" and "MoonInstances.dll", you can only have one of those. So the best choice would be the one with "moon" in it.

ok lol i was about to do that :roll1:

yeh, cept i dont do server hosting atm, i stopped cuz too much trouble

lol

yes i know, its hard to believe, but i do have, ugly, jkjkjkjk
i mean it is hard to believe, it is too much trouble

yep it is a little bit of trouble.

- 1st i had to find a computer to host my server on
- I had to move my server 3 times lol, setting the server up from scratch each time
- Then my router decides to give random ip's out every so often so i have to reopen ports alot
- Then since i'm hosting my server on a laptop, it's not up when I go someplace with it lol

I'm trying to get a decent desktop computer for my server lol

i got an okay desktop, but its not good enough

i have a laptop, so.... i might try making a server on that :D

ok...cool

yes, it is, but i'm too lazy to do it right now, i'll probably get to it tomorrow :)

k...if u need help pm me or add me on msn.

k i will

Lol I'm 29% addicted to World of Warcraft. Just took the test in your sig.

kewl, but i doubt that :P
anyways, i suggest running all sql updates, just in case there is some bug that is unknown at this time and could cause a widespread problem

lol wow so small im 67% :(

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Originally Posted by KingXCrosses

kewl, but i doubt that :P
anyways, i suggest running all sql updates, just in case there is some bug that is unknown at this time and could cause a widespread problem

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Hmm good point.

Just a bump...