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Death of two year old being linked to watching Pro Wrestling
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East St. Louis, IL (KMOV) - East St. Louis police are investigating the suspicious death of a two year old boy.
His 4-year-old brother is suspected of killing him, and his mother tells News 4 that he was pretending he was a professional wrestler.
Jacqueline Davis says she came out of the shower and found her two-year-old son Jacquion unresponsive on his bedroom floor.
She says her four-year-old son told her and police that he was pretending to be WWE professional wrestler who he watches dominate opponents on the Friday night show.
The 4-year-old allegedly choked his brother with part of a curtain.
Rescuers flew Jacquion by helicopter to Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital where doctors treated him in intensive care for four days until he died Tuesday.
Sources familiar with the case tell News 4 that autopsy results could take two weeks and that a police investigation is pending.
The victim's mother says she's convinced exposure to professional wrestling played a part in the tragic murder.
4-year-old may be responsible for death of toddler brother | TOP STORIES | WHAS11.com | News for Louisville, Kentucky
WTH happend to 'Don't try this at home' or 'The following content is for mature audiences only'?
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I guess some people just dont listen.
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Kids just have to learn. Parents also have to learn to watch they're kids, amke sure they know that the stuff isn't real, and probably not to let little kids watch something as stupid as the WWE
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Konrow
Kids just have to learn. Parents also have to learn to watch they're kids, amke sure they know that the stuff isn't real, and probably not to let little kids watch something as stupid as the WWE
agreed. the company provides ample warning about viewer discretion and not imitating the stunts... its up to tha parent to enforce both of those, because the WWE cant be in every single household doing it. so to blame the wwe just doesnt make any sense. Parents: blame ur damn selves, dont let ur kids watch shit they are going to want to emulate.
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Originally Posted by
Konrow
Parents have to learn to watch they're kids
Nuff said.
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Wow, why didn't they blame videogames? =/
I'm shocked.
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DAMN YOU PRO WRESTLING! Why would his parents let him watch pro wrestling anyway?
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Same thing with the story of the kid who got buried alive in the sand box. You gotta learn to have resposibilities like konrow said, and if your not prepared, dont have kids.
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Yer I heard about that story. You should always keep under 7 year olds under adult supervision at all times to prevent these type of things from happening.
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Very sad story, i hate to hear things like this.
Wrestling is fake, the end.
The wrestlers should just go home and put there fail hats on.
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Originally Posted by
Jamie
Wrestling is fake, the end.
That's your opinion to this subject? That it's fake? The kid doesn't know that. Even if he did it wouldn't stop him from choke slamming his baby brother.
The point is that the parents blame WWE but should be blaming themselves for letting their young ones watch a dangerous sport.
Yes, it is a dangerous sport believe it or not.
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Its just an excuse to touch up other men.
America should ban the show. Theres no wrestling in the UK.
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Jamie
Its just an excuse to touch up other men.
America should ban the show. Theres no wrestling in the UK.
Ban it? Why? It's sports entertainment. As you said. It's not real stuff. It's ENTERTAINMENT.
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I fail to see gay and overweight men pretending to body slam with their tough man-boobs that jiggles when they move entertainment.
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So your saying just because its fake we should ban it? Wow get ready to ban pretty much every show except the real life ones. We'll end up having 1 channel left on tv to watch -.-
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Nuklear
I fail to see gay and overweight men pretending to body slam with their tough man-boobs that jiggles when they move entertainment.
Well then get over the man-boobs and shit. It actually has entertaining story lines. Go ahead and check it out for yourself. Some videos posted on youtube.
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Yes, entertaining story lines - a baldy twat called 'Stone Cold Steve Austin' is hit by a car driven by a fellow wrestler. He makes a dramatic return only to turn out to be a complete twat. Wrestling is basically light gay porn, it's guys in PVC shorts (from the looks of it) grabbing each other in places you wouldn't expect.
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Your way off dude. Wrestling is basically a form of fighting , except its fake. People find it entertaining though.
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Pro wrestling is fake in terms of storyline. But in terms of fighting and athleticism it is. If you look at the matches. Doing moves from top of a steel cage. The way they do it so perfectly. That's what pro wrestling's about.
These athletes go through hell and actually risk their lives.
And get through the gay touching. It's not like they're licking each other or something. You're just like my idiot cousin. Hate it because of the gayness. When you go swim in public. They're people around you who are atleast half naked. So please let it go.
Also the fake thing. Big deal if you could spot out the fake stuff. Just don't focus on that. That's what makes it dull. Ignore it and watch the damn thing.
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Originally Posted by
Jamie
Its just an excuse to touch up other men.
America should ban the show. Theres no wrestling in the UK.
Stop being absolutely pathetic for god sake. That isn't even your real opinion, you just don't have anything else better to say so your coming out with any old crap. And how isn't there any wrestling in the UK ? When theres Academies for it in big major Cities such as Sheffield, Manchester and London ?
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Batz
Pro wrestling is fake in terms of storyline. But in terms of fighting and athleticism it is. If you look at the matches. Doing moves from top of a steel cage. The way they do it so perfectly. That's what pro wrestling's about.
These athletes go through hell and actually risk their lives.
And get through the gay touching. It's not like they're licking each other or something. You're just like my idiot cousin. Hate it because of the gayness. When you go swim in public. They're people around you who are atleast half naked. So please let it go.
Also the fake thing. Big deal if you could spot out the fake stuff. Just don't focus on that. That's what makes it dull. Ignore it and watch the damn thing.
Exactally...well said. Some people are so incredibly small minded its unbelievable. Some of you people only come out with the stuff you do about Professional Wrestling especially the WWE because some people think its only for immature kids/teenagers to watch. And because some of you have such low self-esteem you follow the rest of the flock.
Anyway, the fact of the matter is...Is the risk that these Professionals put themselfs in every week FAKE ? Is there Athleticism FAKE ? Yeah the WWE is pre-Rehearsed but that doesn't mean they don't physicaly ware each other out and hurt each other.
Anyways about the unfortunate accident with the child. Its the mothers fault for leaving 2 unattended children at the ages of 2 and 4 by them selfs when shes in the shower. Children at that age need constant supervision.
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Originally Posted by
Jamie
Very sad story, i hate to hear things like this.
Wrestling is fake, the end.
The wrestlers should just go home and put there fail hats on.
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Its just an excuse to touch up other men.
America should ban the show. Theres no wrestling in the UK.
do every1 a favour and shoot ur self in the face
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Originally Posted by
Nuklear
I fail to see gay and overweight men pretending
to body slam with their tough man-boobs that jiggles when they move entertainment.
do every1 another favour and find a hole to crawl into and die
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Originally Posted by
Laz-low
Yes, entertaining story lines - a baldy twat called 'Stone Cold Steve Austin' is hit by a car driven by a fellow wrestler.
He makes a dramatic return only to turn out to be a complete twat. Wrestling is basically light gay porn,
it's guys in PVC shorts (from the looks of it) grabbing each other in places you wouldn't expect.
and u finish by doing ppl 1 more favour by jumping off a cliff and dieing
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wresteling is in no form gay, its called entertainment because it entertains ppl or did u jack asses not realize that
its just funny that hundreds of thousands of ppl go to watch it and pay per view it aswell
if wrestling is such a joke, why are pay per view events such as wrestlemania one of the biggiest endorced and watched entertainment venues around the world after 24 years, and profe of this is how can they pay other professionals such as floyd mayweather 20million dollars to make an appearance for the fans around the world if the professional wrestling industry is as big of a joke of some of you ppl like to make out.
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Originally Posted by Xader
and u finish by doing ppl 1 more favour by jumping off a cliff and dieing
Yeah I'll work on that later.
I just find Wrestling completely pointless and I don't see how people pretending to beat up each other by jumping off ropes and landing on them. Would you find it entertaining if you were watching a vicious bar fight happening? Who's to say they're not pretending or if it's real? What is the exact entertainment in Wrestling? If you wanna get kicks out of people fighting each other, then go fight with your brother or a friend. These Wrestlers make money out of being fakes, the whole match is fixed to go in favour of the fan's favourite wrestlers to keep ratings up and to keep that money rolling for their fake show.
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for all the numpties who think they are stephen hawking for working out that WWE and the like are "fake" i say this
when your body is even half as well trained as this man
when you make even a quater of the money this man makes
when you are half the age of this man
when you are a hero and an influence to even 1 hundreth of the people this man is
when you appear live on tv on a regular basis
when you have achieved anything
then you can start to comment on how wrestling is pointless, crap or fake
as for the kid that died, it is my opinion the parents should have taken better care
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I see what you're saying but people are getting payed to pretend to fight and they are leaving an impression on these kids whom have parents that don't monitor them. It's the parents fault as much as it is the WWF's fault - the parents for not monitoring the kid and WWF for even displaying the stuff. Watching people fight - even if it's fake - is pretty damn stupid.
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Originally Posted by
Laz-low
I see what you're saying but people are getting payed to pretend to fight and they are leaving an impression on these kids whom have parents that don't monitor them. It's the parents fault as much as it is the WWF's fault - the parents for not monitoring the kid and WWF for even displaying the stuff. Watching people fight - even if it's fake - is pretty damn stupid.
the olympics has several combat forms, all international revered for longer than wrestling entertainment has been around i guess they are stupid too.
what about all the people who are able to watch and not try to emulate what they see, i guess they dont figure into it either.
you arent watching people fight, you are watching people put on impressive physical displays
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Originally Posted by
exclamatio
the olympics has several combat forms, all international revered for longer than wrestling entertainment has been around i guess they are stupid too.
what about all the people who are able to watch and not try to emulate what they see, i guess they dont figure into it either.
you arent watching people fight, you are watching people put on impressive physical displays
Since when has pretending to choke someone whilst smashing them off a mat putting on an impressive physical display? Yeah I guess the whole being able to lift them part is good, but in this example the kid choked his brother whilst imitating WWE. Yes they don't use curtains to do it but the idea of choking someone and hitting them off the floor does put ideas into some people's minds. When my brother was young he used to watch WWF alot and we both though it was real (we were really young at the time), so the ideas some of the things in WWF/WWE puts into kid's minds...
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Laz-low
Since when has pretending to choke someone whilst smashing them off a mat putting on an impressive physical display? Yeah I guess the whole being able to lift them part is good, but in this example the kid choked his brother whilst imitating WWE. Yes they don't use curtains to do it but the idea of choking someone and hitting them off the floor does put ideas into some people's minds. When my brother was young he used to watch WWF alot and we both though it was real (we were really young at the time), so the ideas some of the things in WWF/WWE puts into kid's minds...
1st of all we cannot be certain the kid got the idea from wrestling but lets assume that was the only influence and they did get it from there
now we have to also assume that the kid thought it was ok to do it so here we have en epic fail from the parents, why the fuck does a 4 year old think it is ok to choke a sibling
as for the impressive physical display look at their bodies for a start, lets see a picture of your body and lets make a comparison and we will see why you know nothing about this, if you want to continue to discussion on wrestling make a new thread, if not lets stay on topic now
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Couldn't this be the same with War or Guns in school etc.
A kid see's on TV a kid killing 20 people in school, the kid doesn't go find a gun and start shooting, it's the parent's and/or kids fault not the WWF/WWE etc.
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if the WWE wasnt fake in the wrestling and already decided who the winnder was before the match even started, then they wouldent realy be able to come up with much of a story line fast during the show
like when some1 wins a match usualy something happens straight after or one of the wrestlers that got beat would say something, if the match wasnt alreadt decided then nothin ginteresting would happen after the fight and it would be boring
the point some ppl are missing out on still is the fact that its just simply entertainment which thousands of ppl enjoy watching for multiple reasons
think of it like a soap if u want like emmedale for e.g., its all fake and non of what happens there is real
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exclamatio
1st of all we cannot be certain the kid got the idea from wrestling but lets assume that was the only influence and they did get it from there
now we have to also assume that the kid thought it was ok to do it so here we have en epic fail from the parents, why the fuck does a 4 year old think it is ok to choke a sibling
as for the impressive physical display look at their bodies for a start, lets see a picture of your body and lets make a comparison and we will see why you know nothing about this, if you want to continue to discussion on wrestling make a new thread, if not lets stay on topic now
I'm not in the best physical condition compared to what some wrestlers are, but why would you get completely ripped just for some pretend hitting?
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Laz-low
I'm not in the best physical condition compared to what some wrestlers are, but why would you get completely ripped just for some pretend hitting?
I really don't understand you...
How can you not already figure that out for yourself ? Wrestling next to Rugby has got to be one of the most Physically demanding Sports today. So why else do you think they work and sweat blood for a body you can grate cheese on ? Because thats the body and level of fitness thats required to beable to perform in the way they do.
And lastly only because they've got impressive bodies that doesn't mean the only reason they've gained that is for the Job/Sport they do for a living. I train and work out hard each and everyday (except for weekends) but I do it for myself, because I wanna be strong and very fit.
Edit - Forgot to mention, the WWE doesn't encourage anything like this in the homes of its fans. They constantly repeat over and over again NEVER TO TRY THIS AT HOME. And as I mentioned before, its the perants fault for even allowing there little children for watching the show in the first place. Futher more its highly Irresponsible for the mother of those children to leave a 2 and a 4 year old unattended without supervision while she's in the shower.
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Sure, blame it on everything, except the parents.
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Laz-low
I'm not in the best physical condition compared to what some wrestlers are, but why would you get completely ripped just for some pretend hitting?
movie is a rip off too
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Its not the wwfs fault. I have good parents, and my baby brother was watching dora when he was 4 not wrestling.
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Alright, The media makes a big deal about violent games, not as many deaths, Compared to Pro Wreslting, Where there has been many deaths. You dont hear about Pro Wreslting Violence Nearly as much as you hear about Violence in Video Games, I Feel Remorse for the family, but mabey this will show the FCC and Media, whats really a factor. its a State Of Mind. if you ask me the FCC and Media will just blow it off, if they were smart. which the FCC isnt, put the message of violence in Games out there, But focus on the topic at hand. i hear about deaths alot more with Pro Wrestling then video game violence.
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The parents will probably end up sueing WWE or some shit (Yes that is how pathetic the world is today)
Its really the parents fault, I doubt WWE is meant to be watched by 4 year old kids with the violence and shit
The parents should of known better
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Initiate
Its not the wwfs fault. I have good parents, and my baby brother was watching dora when he was 4 not wrestling.
Good parents don't let their children watch some blasphemous TV programs such as Dora the Explorer.
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I have two nephews one who is 11 another who is 4, and I go absaloutly fucking spare when I find them playing wrestling and what not because it's basically an accident waiting to happen.
And I completly agree the parents need to becareful about what their children are watching, I remember watching wrestling when I was younger and it was one of my favourite things but I knew it wasn't real. (Around age 10)
There is nothing wrong with it being on telelvision, how ever parents need to take it into their own hands and make sure that their child knows it's not real or just simply not allow them to watch it.
I just feel awful for the childs family.
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an 11 year old wrestling a 4 year old... thats not very nice. Why would the child choke
his bro with the curtin? they don't do tat in WWE.
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The PathFinder
an 11 year old wrestling a 4 year old... thats not very nice. Why would the child choke
his bro with the curtin? they don't do tat in WWE.
They were both 4 and 2, the older brother choked out the 2year old. Kids at that age don't know right from wrong at all. The mother even leaving them both unattended while taking a shower is just amazingly stupid.
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Obviously the parents fault, no matter how fake or unentertaining (or the respective opposites of these) wrestling. There is no reason to let your children watch that. Would you film a bar fight and let them watch? Makes as much sense.
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Originally Posted by
exclamatio
for all the numpties who think they are stephen hawking for working out that WWE and the like are "fake" i say this
when your body is even half as well trained as this man
when you make even a quater of the money this man makes
when you are half the age of this man
when you are a hero and an influence to even 1 hundreth of the people this man is
when you appear live on tv on a regular basis
when you have achieved anything
then you can start to comment on how wrestling is pointless, crap or fake
as for the kid that died, it is my opinion the parents should have taken better care
Amen to that... QFT
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Its the Parents fault really....
What kind of mother, lets a 2 year old and a 4 year old on there own... O.o
WATCHING Pro Wrestling, Mom = Failure.
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someone here said wrestling should be banned, cause they dont have in UK....you dont need wrestling in UK...you got rugby
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Theres alot of Wrestling clubs in the UK, and I agree that WWE is scripted, but that does not make it fake. UFC is only called mixed martial arts because you have strike with a closed fist, wrestling you cannot. I really hope I do not need to explain that to anyone.
I personally think that if the parents where looking after them it would never have happened. This is one time that social should be involved.
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It's teh parentz fault, aye?
~ phear //
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Laz-low
... Watching people fight - even if it's fake - is pretty damn stupid.
What about fighting in movies?