[VB] Need suggestions, where can I boost my knowledge of VB [VB]

Hi guys,

I'm asking for some suggestions on what Projects I could attemp to do, or where could I boost my knowledge of VB, for a start.

• What websites would you guys suggest?
• Is VB the most common language in the VB Area, Or is Visual C++?
• What in the world is Visual J++, and Visual InterDev?
• Meh!
and Which is the best website for Comm and Winsock Development?
I also love Filing and File System area, too. I'm in the process of creating a Authentication System, with some functions and stuff.

"Don't go off-topic" Sorry!

Y'know I could just google this, LOL so I guess thats it. If you can suggest what websites you use, and or books, you know. Anyways please do not say "Noob", stupid anything like that, not helpful.

i recomend http://pscode.com that has losts of good stuff if that doesn't help try google .and if youneed projects try a web browser media player or ftp program =]

Definitely pscode.com

If you want to get into some cool stuff, learn about winsock. Make a a program for chatting or for viewing website data (headers and source) via "GET" requests (you'll learn about the HTTP protocol then too).

If you really want to have fun though, I highly recommend making an IRC bot. Not only will that teach you winsock, but it will also teach you the IRC protocol, which is not very complicated. Heck, it'll teach you lots of different string manipulation techniques too. I must say that programming an IRC client was probably one of the most fun and fulfilling things I've done in VB.

Btw, J++ -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_J%2B%2B

And Visual C++ can't really be compared to VB in my opinion. That may be a little less true though if you're not referring to an older version of VB, but even then...Well, you get the point. That's just personal opinion though. No facts in that! :)

So, DarkKnihtH20, what can I find all that on pscode.com?

and, MYCHEMICALSELF I created webbbrowsers, too many in fact.
I have knowledge on the MSWINSCK.OCX, but I want to learn loads about Communications.
I'm quite exicted about what DarkKnight said, that sounds awesome.

Anyways, thanks for posting, and being mature. :D

Here are some things that really help.
Make a spammer
Make a keylogger
Make a chat room
Make a client/server program
Look at FTP clients
Try every project on youtube
By then you should be intermediate at VB, and be able to handle the vb forums.

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So, DarkKnihtH20, what can I find all that on pscode.com?

and, MYCHEMICALSELF I created webbbrowsers, too many in fact.
I have knowledge on the MSWINSCK.OCX, but I want to learn loads about Communications.
I'm quite exicted about what DarkKnight said, that sounds awesome.

Anyways, thanks for posting, and being mature. :D

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On pscode type in "irc client" and search under "Visual Basic" combo box. Depending on the Visual Basic version you're using though, it may not be under there (i.e. may be under .NET).

If it's a chat system you want to make, then type in "chat", which will bring up several methods (i.e. UDP, TCP) you can use.

Spammers are fun too (as are finding ways to spam) and so are trojans. Bots too. Still, don't release them to the public or anything :) Build for the sake of learning.

I'd also recommend messing with API via an API spy and implemented code into your programs by using an API spy generator. PATORJK made a nice light weight one--

http://patorjk.com/blog/software/

Well for a start i wouldn't try and learn VB as it's only made for 'simple applications' of you want to get the real enjoyment out of programming learn a language like C# or C++ but if you want to continue learning VB just buy a book or download one from online, or you could just look through other sources and learn for yourself :P

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Well for a start i wouldn't try and learn VB as it's only made for 'simple applications' of you want to get the real enjoyment out of programming learn a language like C# or C++ but if you want to continue learning VB just buy a book or download one from online, or you could just look through other sources and learn for yourself :P

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I understand that C++ is more advanced, and Like you have to import different things, I might just try C# as long as it's like the orginal coding, and layout in VB. Also is C++ native code?

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On pscode type in "irc client" and search under "Visual Basic" combo box. Depending on the Visual Basic version you're using though, it may not be under there (i.e. may be under .NET).

If it's a chat system you want to make, then type in "chat", which will bring up several methods (i.e. UDP, TCP) you can use.

Spammers are fun too (as are finding ways to spam) and so are trojans. Bots too. Still, don't release them to the public or anything :) Build for the sake of learning.

I'd also recommend messing with API via an API spy and implemented code into your programs by using an API spy generator. PATORJK made a nice light weight one--

http://patorjk.com/blog/software/

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Okay, so thanks I love your website. It has a attractive layout. :D

c# is just microsoft's version of a slimmed down java. C isn't too hard, c++ is worthwhile to learn. Borland's Delphi feels a lot like vb 6, but acts more like c++. It's more powerful, and there are some real applications built with it. And depending on what you are doing, visual basic is sometimes the VERY best programming language you can use.

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c# is just microsoft's version of a slimmed down java. C isn't too hard, c++ is worthwhile to learn. Borland's Delphi feels a lot like vb 6, but acts more like c++. It's more powerful, and there are some real applications built with it. And depending on what you are doing, visual basic is sometimes the VERY best programming language you can use.

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Visual Basics is as the name suggests 'basic' who wants to stay basic? if you want to improve your skills and make better applications go to C# once you are familiar with C# you may want to try C++, C++ is probably one of the better languages for coding game servers.

Tbh, I can't think of a worse language then VB, but somehow it's very popular, and that while Microsoft wants get rid of it (for all the critic it got, in fact the language is rather low quality if you ask me). I use C and C++ pretty much for everything, but if you want to do more easier things / quicker development, you'd go with C# or perhaps Java. J# or J++ is big failure.

Wow, thanks for the awesome advice.
I'm thinking about moving up to C++, since people have said thats the kinda language for coding Games. I'm really interested in COM too. I've always through that C++ looks a little to advanced for me, because of the headers, and Correct me if I am wrong, there is no GUI for the application you want to code? and no Tools like to insert things like the timer? I don't want to stay Basic through.

Which C++ is this? I don't want to use the .NET C++ or the 2008 one.
Is there one like VB 6? So Visual C++ 6.0?
I am currently coding with Visual Basic 6.0 enterprise edition.

Again thanks for giving me some advice.

@xer - i can see that you have VS6.0 right?
J++ is something related to java and that other i dunno what it is...
P.s - i would recommend start learning C++ (C;C# or C something)

Xerox, C++ has no framework build in like VB has, it has no plug-ins automatically build into the language. Plug-ins are plugged in manually, this allows people to make plug-ins themselves rather easily, and makes the language very flexible in it's use. C++ can be used for virtually everything, in fact, most programming languages are written in C(++) or converted into C instead of ASM when compiling.

There is a downside, and that is that C++ is build with the idea that developers have endless knowledge, where as VB is build considering developers to be stupid and need guide. The latter works much better, since most developers really are stupid. Results in no flexibility and planned ways to do thing.

Also, a GUI system? There are loads for C++. In fact, at this very moment I am actually writing a GUI engine myself...

Take a look at sourceforge or here: http://www.twilightsembrace.com/personal/gamelibs.php

mm Daevius - link is not working...

It does, just takes a minute :)

now it does. of course it is having some problems with permissions ^^

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1. 'Planet Source Code' and 'DeveloperFusion' have great VB6 examples, Google it.
2. VB(6) is... well, sort-of common, because it's mostly for beginners. But Visual C++ is the most common and used language, (I think Mozilla Firefox was made using C++ too.)
3. Visual J++? You'll learn that soon enough after you know how to use VB6, C# and so on.

I think I would get bored, with just the coding interface?
No designing?