How to edit droprates correctly (aka MF/PF drop fix)

There is quite a lot of people asking for a droprate fix or adding mithril to later maps like Mutant Forest so here is something for you. I have included a modified file for Mutant Forest and i will explain what i have done so you can fix or modify other files for yourself.

Download fixed MF file ->http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nmgcmrgzzdg

Replace your /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp with this one.


Explanation

Open /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp and find this section:

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[CommDrop]        TerrainIdx        ItemKind        ItemOpt        DropRate        MinLv        MaxLv        Group        MaxDropCnt        OptPoolIdx        DurationIdx
0        0        416        0        .00000190000000000        110        200        0        0        0        0

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Here is what i changed it to:

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[CommDrop]        TerrainIdx        ItemKind        ItemOpt        DropRate        MinLv        MaxLv        Group        MaxDropCnt        OptPoolIdx        DurationIdx
0        0        416        0        .99000190000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0

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The more observant among you will notice i changed the MinLv and DropRate columns. The Droprate column is obvious and has been bumped... a little bit.


If you look at the original MinLv and MaxLv columns you will see that this item (EoG+7) will only drop for level 110-200 players and if you look through your original file you will see that many of the items in MF actually don't drop for the very high level players, most stop dropping at level 137-163. That's why your uber level guys are not getting anything but alz. I have changed all of the items in the file to drop between levels 1 and 200 to make it a bit more fair.

Also, to make things a little more interesting, i have added a few things at the bottom of the [CommDrop] section:

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212        0        1159        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
213        0        1160        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
214        0        1161        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
215        0        1162        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
216        0        1163        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
217        0        1164        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
218        0        1165        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
219        0        1166        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
220        0        1167        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
221        0        1168        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
222        0        1169        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
223        0        1170        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
224        0        1171        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
225        0        1172        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
226        0        1173        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
227        0        1174        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
228        0        1175        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0
229        0        1176        0        .99250000000000000        1        200        0        0        0        0

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Yes that is a set of Mithril Boxes added to the general droplist as well. :shock2:

Map numbers:
1 - Bloody Ice
2 - Desert Scream
3 - Green Despair
4 - Port Lux
5 - Fort Ruina
6 - Lakeside
7 - Undead Ground
8 - Forgotten Ruin
9 - Mutant Forest
10 - Pontus Ferrum
13 - Frozen Tower of Undead
14 - Ruina Station
15 - Tierra Gloriosa
16 - Tierra Gloriosa (lobby)
19 - Jail
23 - Forgotten Temple
24 - Volcanic Citadel
25 - Exilian Volcano
26 - Lake in Dusk
27 - Dungeon world 3
28 - Dungeon world 2
29 - Dungeon world 1
30 - Warp Room

nice chumpywumpy!

On Your screen shot i see that items drop from almost every mob. Will it be like 1 items from 50 mobs on normal rates(like3x) or same?
Thanks anyway for release.

great release chump. this sure would solve a lot of headaches.

Good point. I forgot to tell you my rates. I had my droprate in const.scp at 5x with 2 items to drop and i have UseWorldDrop=1 in my WorldSvr ini file. At 1x rates you will still get lots of items though.

nice release... good job..

thankss

how u set that mobs drop 2 items when die?

Very strange i have put drop rate 3.0000000000 for Upgrade core higest and its still not droping it...
why?

3.0 is far far too high, remember that cabal does not like very high rates on things as if the numbers get too high they reset back to 0. Try putting your char stats stupidly high and you will see things like your attack rate drops to 1.

Keep the numbers under 0.x and remember that the drop rates are in relation to each other and not like 1.0 makes a perfect drop.

All my forcium items are higher then 3.0..... and the drop is perfect....
its just some things not falling like Upgrade core highesr or EOF things like that....
But when im puting 0.9..... only money drops...

Chumpy, I don't understand how this DropRate system works ;o
I think it's multiplied for some number and then we have those huge numbers.
and I don't know what percentage for example, .99250000000000000 means.

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Originally Posted by poperon

Chumpy, I don't understand how this DropRate system works ;o
I think it's multiplied for some number and then we have those huge numbers.
and I don't know what percentage for example, .99250000000000000 means.

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like i understand its means 99%

ok the drop rate is like this on the terrain part


.10000190000000000 is a medium drop rate
.99000190000000000 is a high drop rate
.00000190000000000 is a low drop rate

every map has the same rate calculation

if you make it like chumpy did its gona drop like crasy even if drop rate in const.scp is on 1

so .99000190000000000 is a good rate if you want every mob to drop 3 ore more items like chumpy made it

i personaly like the rate to be a lot lower so i edit them to be more like
.05000190000000000 so it wil be harder to get the items and more funn for the players

and then about the highest cores
to quote chumpywumpy
[CommDrop ]TerrainIdx ItemKind ItemOpt DropRate MinLv MaxLv Group

32 0 1214 0 .10050000000000000 1 200 11
33 0 1215 0 .10050000000000000 1 200 11
are the codes for highest cores force and upgrade
but look at the number after 200 that the max lvl
but add a group number to it and it wil drop from that mobs group
if you let it stay on 0 it wil drop very very rare
whit the group number at example 11 it wil drop more comenly from that goup of mobs
so take a look on what group you want them to drop and ad the number to the list
and they wil drop in greater numbers

ok hope this helps
gr HellCat

Stop thinking about them as direct percentages, that .99xxxx means 99% chance of the item dropping as that isn't how it works. If it was then if you put something at 1.0xxx would make that 1 item drop every single time. The bigger numbers do mean more of a chance of them dropping but remember that other items want to drop as well and putting some items at very high rates will simply stop other things dropping just like what Smiagol1000 is seeing.

chumpy i got disconnected when looting items in mutant forest with your new repack..

i applied your mutant forest drop rate

V2 of my repack is designed to be used with SAUR0N's client synch patch and if you don't use it some values will be wrong. Keep your old const.scp and product.scp if you don't use the synch patch.

i really dont understand saur0n's syns patch.. since no internal.txt how do i put the ip of my server?



Edit: my server is fine now.. BUT i use your old World_24_01.ini i just save it on the notepad and back it up....

thanx and more power to you chump....

No wonder why I get crap in Ruina Station on official.
Rofl

Ok... and Rates like for example, 16.00000000000000000 are extreme DropRates?
The last thing that i need to know ^^"

How do I configure a drop to make it difficult?

can i use this on my server is this balanced?

No this is definitely not balanced. The default drops are balanced as they should be and doing what i have done here imbalances it a lot as MF becomes a complete dropfest. This is really just to show how to edit drops and for those people who want the higher maps to drop like crazy as many people don't care about balance at all.

halo...
may i knw izzit work for cabalsea???
coz i dun where to paste the file that u upload....
anyway thks for ur info......:thumbup::thumbup:

[Multiple] All_M PC_M Free_P FreePC_P Premium_P PremiumPC_P Remark
0 7500 7500 0 0 0 0 EXP
1 7500 7500 0 0 0 0 SKILL EXP
2 7500 7500 0 0 0 0 CRAFT EXP?
3 .99000190000000000 .99000190000000000 0 0 0 0 DROP RATE
4 .99000190000000000 .99000190000000000 0 0 0 0 ALZ BOMB
5 .99000190000000000 .99000190000000000 0 0 0 0 ALZ AMOUNT


do i need to replace the 0 with 99000190000000000

sir cypher can you upload your .scp so i can compare mine thank you

but sir can you give me a sample only please

How do I configure a drop to make it difficult?
high rates
medium rates????

Chumpy I tried to use this method but it never drops forcium for Wiz and BL what shall I do to make it drop those stuffs? What code shall I add so that MF and PF drops forcium for Wiz and BL? Ty in adv..

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Originally Posted by Cath22

but sir can you give me a sample only please

How do I configure a drop to make it difficult?
high rates
medium rates????

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This is only possible using the hardcore channel method as you have to have a different set of files for high, med and low rates.

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Originally Posted by swetmary143

Chumpy I tried to use this method but it never drops forcium for Wiz and BL what shall I do to make it drop those stuffs? What code shall I add so that MF and PF drops forcium for Wiz and BL? Ty in adv..

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The method i posted here definitely works for WI as my main char in official (and therefore also my server) is a WI. Check the screenie i posted (though he has a different name in official). The drops are the same for all chars and you can't set drops for just some types of chars.

The thing that people always seem to forget when editing rates is the min and max column. Those columns define what levels the items will drop and if the char is below the min or above the max the item cannot drop.

Hi sir chumpy, I'm quite new to this but this just looks amazing, and I'm highly grateful that you posted this.
However I've got a question though.

Open /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp and find this section:

how can I do that, I can't find that directory, is there a program I need and do I need some kind of patch for the codes you've posted to work ?

The directory is on centos. You don't need anything extra as all you are doing is editing the existing data.

Could you please tell me what centos is? I'd appreciate it very much if you could provide me some more details sir chumpy.

Centos (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is the version of linux that the cabal server likes best. It is what is in your vmware image running cabal.

sir what is the code to add for drops of mithrill helms and boots becuase you dont added it. help sir did you put opt in your drop of mithrill boxes

hey sir.. does this aesowme thing works for vista home basic?

can you email me this file , where to paste , i want to copy and paste the file , i dont know how to use it and where to place .
i only see DATA/map/world_09.mcl
is that the file i need to change to change the drop rate in that place ?
im not the administrator of the game , im only a player i want to change the drop rate , because its so hard to find that item.
then i saw this thread .
i want to paste file to cabal im playing so i can loot forcium box at mutant forest .
but i dont know how .
please send to my email address the exact file , exact file name , exact location to paste .
here is my email address monthcome@yahoo.com

tnx alot , hope yoou will help me

i want items i can get at mutant forest is for all characters and not only for wizard .
i want forcium for all class , i want to get that item at mutant forest ..
please help me send the file to me .
i really need it :(

ok so as i was telling you noobs that this only works for YOUR SERVER! you will make it work untill you change the server files that you cannot access it if you don`t own the server right.

ps: all offtopic posts will be deleted so please do not comment this.

tks dud
its a greating job

but I only have a problem, all mob drop 2 items, is not diminishing it? reduce the chance?

If the server is set to drop 2 items then all mobs will do so. There is no way of setting some mobs to drop more items than others as far as i know.

maybe a dumb question lol

i've been messing a bit with the file's but i cant seem to figure out how to let crafted (slotted) items drop i've been looking at the code this morning and see that the most off the gear is listed twice
one high drop rate and one low ive changed it arround but drops are still the same

ive setup your mf file and see that there drops crafted items with slot (amp) but cant seem to find how to do it

sure it wil be a simple awnser but at the moment i'm stuck lol
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found it its in the itempool :D i just changed it to 13 it come's out crafted with a slot filled with amp
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thx
Pascal

guide not working for me ... e.t.c. ... Cant run WorldSvr after editing drop rates (only on world 1 tryed to edit ;@ ) chumpy guide suck! More info please

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Originally Posted by oleg35

guide not working for me ... e.t.c. ... Cant run WorldSvr after editing drop rates (only on world 1 tryed to edit ;@ ) chumpy guide suck! More info please

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Then you prolly didnt edit it with crimson editor and thus you server cant understand whats in the file :P try to download crimson editor (in chumpys release section near the bottem) and edit all server files with that. Remember to make backups of everything before testing.

Also his guide dont suck you just have trouble understanding k thanx bye =)

Ok Chumpy I got a question, I have a hardcore chan and its all custom.. Custom mobs/bosses in each map well just maps 1-3 for now and maps 4-10 i saved with openoffice so that it wouldnt load the mobs :P

Anyways Im creating custom drop list for each world by copying all the maps 1-10 terrain files and renaming them like world1-30-terrain.scp and I also edited the common30.ini to load that files, that part is good and it works quiet well for common drops

Now since i have custom bosses in these worlds I want them to drop cool things ofcourse and lets say BI boss drops Blue BIke I would set it like this correct?

[MobsDrop] TerrainIdx SpeciesIdx ItemKind ItemOpt DropRate MinLv MaxDropCnt OptPoolIdx DurationIdx
0 0 714 437 163 .09000000000000000 35 0 0 0

Ok so this should tell the server that 714(my BI boss) will drop a blue bike, Well say I wanted it to be account binding on pickup I would edit the itemopt or the optpool? and my last question is what is an easy way of finding the options to use if I wanna create custom drops like 1 slot of amp for 1 map and 2 slot of amp for a harder map? What would I use to get this ItemOpt's or OptPoolID?

I hope you dont have to much trouble understanding what im asking as ive been up 2 days and typing is hard atm :P Thanx in advance Chumps..

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Originally Posted by cuddlezz

Then you prolly didnt edit it with crimson editor and thus you server cant understand whats in the file :P try to download crimson editor (in chumpys release section near the bottem) and edit all server files with that. Remember to make backups of everything before testing.

Also his guide dont suck you just have trouble understanding k thanx bye =)

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so with notepad can not be edited files ? ... i think trouble is another one can not be edited all items ... cause changing those opt this crashes WorldSvr ...

this guide isnt compleated ... !

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Originally Posted by oleg35

so with notepad can not be edited files ? ... i think trouble is another one can not be edited all items ... cause changing those opt this crashes WorldSvr ...

this guide isnt compleated ... !

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The guide is perfectly fine. It's your brain that's obviously not complete. DO NOT SAVE THE SCP FILES IN CRLF! This means DO NOT use Wordpad or Notepad to edit the files. Instead, use a text editor that can edit Unix text files (Crimson Editor, NotePadPro, etc.). NEVER, EVER, EVER blame anyone else for your idiocy and your inability to read.

watch your words please...

i am new to this so please help me.

i've looked everywhere but can't find "/etc/cabal/Data/Data_World" anywhere on my e-games folder where cabal is located.

i am from the philippines and using cabal.online.ph

thank you in advance

its on the SERVER where you login with your client
not on your C drive

grz
Pascal

thanks

guess i"m stock with what they want me to have or am I?

any way to get around this even if i don't own the server?

yep you will have to do with what you get as drop
you cant change it if you do not own the server

good day mr, champy..i got problems here..i cant seem to find the world-terrrain of my cabal..and i dont see any "data_world" . . . can you please tell where or maybe someone here can guide me?? thanks and more power

/etc/cabal/data on centos. If this folder is missing then your server is very broken :P

Spoiler:

212 0 1159 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
213 0 1160 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
214 0 1161 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
215 0 1162 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
216 0 1163 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
217 0 1164 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
218 0 1165 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
219 0 1166 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
220 0 1167 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
221 0 1168 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
222 0 1169 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
223 0 1170 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
224 0 1171 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
225 0 1172 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
226 0 1173 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
227 0 1174 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
228 0 1175 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
229 0 1176 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
230 0 1188 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
231 0 1189 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
232 0 1190 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
233 0 1191 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
234 0 1192 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
235 0 1193 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
236 0 1194 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
237 0 1195 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
238 0 1196 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
239 0 1197 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
240 0 1198 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
241 0 1199 0 .99250000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0

chumpy, ive tried adding more forcium/mithril cube.. but when i added the value in the mutant forest terrain.scp my worldsvr.xx.yy wont run.. i need to delete back all the ids other than u added b4.. any solutions for this?

i want this drop but i want simple forcium without slot or craft.can you tell what i must to change?

thx

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Originally Posted by noobianz

chumpy, ive tried adding more forcium/mithril cube.. but when i added the value in the mutant forest terrain.scp my worldsvr.xx.yy wont run.. i need to delete back all the ids other than u added b4.. any solutions for this?

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There is probably a maximum index number (1st column is the index) as there is for most tables. The mmap tables for example cannt have indexes higher than 1000 so maybe the limit here is around 250.

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Originally Posted by ultimatehex

i want this drop but i want simple forcium without slot or craft.can you tell what i must to change?

thx

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Just replace my itemidxs and itemopts with whatever items you want. The guide shows you how to edit existing rates and also how to add new drops. I can't do anything other than doing it for you which i won't do.

I'm also on this problem.
But I try to add in MobDrop, it works. I determined to drop from Ectoleaf or Armap.
^^ Hard to kill but worth to try ^^

chumpy..i got a cabal ph..editing drops are diffrent from our cabal datas...the file is .MCL..what prog ill use to edit it..thnkz

Editing drops is the same no matter what language your client is, the only differences are the translation and a few values for items/quests/warps being switched around. The mcl files don't contain info about drops they contain information about the maps such as where walls and NPCs are. We cannot edit mcl files.

aww..thnkz 4 d reply..now my problem is i can find the /etc/cabal/Data/Data_World/world9-terrain.scp ..i think the files are locatend in a diffrent folders or data..coz we only reach the max lvl of 170...i'll attach a pic...tnkz tnkz much love..:love:

Tip: paths that contain / mean linux and \ means windows, check your centos machine ;)

but how...im using windows...wer is the path..wer can i edit the drop cant find it...hope you help me, sorry 4 my bad english ^^

ive read the prev. posts..this thing doest work on windows??coz centos is an OS right?and how can i create my own server or can i enter ur server??is there a guide on making a server??thnkz ^^,

exactly what i was looking for

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One quick question.
At the [CommDrop] wath are the first numbers at the collumn?
0
1
2
3
4
5
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.
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It is the number of column for example:

1)Jake
2)Ana
3)Jerry etc

Hope you understand my point...

Hello,

So what exactly Group is doing? I think, because of it I can't get SIGMetal, Mithril drop in MF or PF, in PI it drops, with 99 lv sets everything good it is droping in LS and MF.

Waiting for answer. Thanks.

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So what exactly Group is doing?

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This is a very good question,i have played allot with this group thing.
For example,MobX is set to Group1 at 1 and Group2 at 3 in Mobs.scp file.
When you edited a map terrain file and in the common drop you put an item to group 1 and 3 the item doesn't drop at all BUT if i put it to 0 it drops.So clearly group 0 in the terrain file means that the drop applies to all mobs in the map.
But now the big question is what does group 1,2 and 3 does?
I really wish that all of us would share our test and find this together ;)
Regards.