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ChatNode error
ChatNode log
Code:
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:41.985471 3075443616]: [##ERROR##] 'OnCSCChatLogout' fail (Proc/Auth.cpp:325)
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:41.985569 3075443616]: [##ERROR##] UsrMap Fail : MainCmd(404) Ret(145:0:325) Addr(95.114.27.83)
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:42.388936 3085933472]: Leave(): charIdx(17), guildNo(2), (Angel)
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:42.389175 3086206656]: sock 18=> close by finish waiting(80.235.59.221)
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:42.389563 3086206656]: 9.close user 18 [9555728] (80.235.59.221)
WorldSvr log
Code:
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:12:58.635683 40602528]: AntiAddictInit UserNum:2, CharIdx:17, IsAdult:1, PersonId:0, PlayTimeMin:0
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:18:13.089682 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2086249516. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:18:13.089781 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2086056244. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:18:13.089876 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2085862972. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:18:13.089920 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2085669700. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:18:17.954412 3086935744]: 3.close user 13 [8AFB978] (62.165.202.81)
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:19:29.203788 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2086249516. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:19:55.487278 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2086249516. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:19:55.487679 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2086056244. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:19:55.488081 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2085862972. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:19:55.488215 2853235616]: [##ERROR##] DropRate(): drop_rate: -2085669700. charIdx: 17
[Wed Apr 8 2009 18:20:43.271807 3086935744]: 2.close user 12 [8AFAAB0] (80.235.59.221)
I get these errors in same time, that i DC. first everything freezes for like 10 sec and then DC. This only happens if killing monsters.
all other logs are clean.
First i thought its lag, but CentOS has 1024mb ram and around 250mb is free right now. Protsessor usage is around 5-10% only. For windows and database i have 1,5gb ram.
or maybe my ram is too slow? i have PC3200 400mhz.
i dont think problem is with drop rate tho (drop rate is 3x with 3 items drop), ive had that error all the time. but DC problem only persists now when i moved server to other computer. Old one had less ram, but it was DDR2 and celeron 3,0 but now i have 3.2 pentium 4
Any ideas why DC error or i have to buy better comp XD
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Re: ChatNode error
I'm not sure abut the vchatnode logout but i doubt that is too serious unless it also errors when logging in as the connection will just time out eventually.
The droprate ones i have seen before but i don't know what causes them (i doubt it's lag though). I suspect that something drop related is set a bit too high and the number is looping in the same way as setting stats to very high values and attack rate becomes 1. You really need to work out exactly where char 17 was at the time those errors happened so you can experiment and see if you can reproduce it.
For the more strange problems like this you can't really rely on either the logs alone or the honesty of your players (they will always say they weren't doing anything odd whether they were or not). You need to be able to recreate the problem in a controlled environment, i.e. yourself with nobody else around using a normal account. When you can reproduce the problem you are halfway to solving it. Without being able to reproduce it is all just guesswork really.
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Char 17 is me, i only posted log to my own character. I have had this in Level up dungeon 8, Undead ground lihorn zombies and LID nex boss after swamp. Other people have also mentioned level up dungeons several times and RS.
I havent realy changed much after i moved to other comp in drops. all i did is raised some drops levels to drop up to 200. like formula cards, epaulettes.
before i have deleted extract pot drops and doubled/tripled shape drops. no other bigger change for those maps.
World 7 terrain Undead Ground, i have only edited common drop, so i only post this.
Code:
[CommDrop] TerrainIdx ItemKind ItemOpt DropRate MinLv MaxLv Group MaxDropCnt OptPoolIdx DurationIdx
0 0 1 0 .05000000000000000 10 160 0 0 0 0
1 0 2 0 .05000000000000000 10 160 0 0 0 0
2 0 414 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
3 0 428 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
4 0 430 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
5 0 516 129 .15000000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
6 0 607 143 .02000000000000000 70 200 0 0 0 0
7 0 618 143 .02000000000000000 70 200 0 0 0 0
8 0 626 30 .00100000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
9 0 626 38 .00100000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
10 0 626 39 .00100000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
11 0 626 41 .00100000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
12 0 626 42 .00100000000000000 60 200 0 0 0 0
13 0 678 143 .02000000000000000 70 200 0 0 0 0
14 0 683 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
15 0 684 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
16 0 685 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
17 0 686 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
18 0 687 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
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20 0 689 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
21 0 690 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
22 0 691 385 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
23 0 692 9089 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
24 0 692 9217 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
25 0 692 9345 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
26 0 692 9473 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
27 0 692 9601 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
28 0 692 9729 .01000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
29 0 783 0 .07500000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
30 0 937 0 .00001500000000000 10 200 0 0 0 0
31 0 938 0 .00001500000000000 10 200 0 0 0 0
32 0 1310 0 .10000000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 5
33 0 21 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
34 0 36 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
35 0 51 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
36 0 66 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
37 0 81 0 .53125000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
38 0 96 0 .53125000000000000 86 98 8 0 10 0
39 0 112 0 .07000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
40 0 127 0 .07000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
41 0 142 0 .07000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
42 0 157 0 .21000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
43 0 172 0 .21000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
44 0 187 0 .21000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
45 0 202 0 .14000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
46 0 217 0 .14000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
47 0 232 0 .14000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
48 0 247 0 .28000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
49 0 262 0 .28000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
50 0 277 0 .28000000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
51 0 626 50 .00050000000000000 86 200 8 0 0 0
52 0 21 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
53 0 36 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
54 0 51 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
55 0 66 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
56 0 81 0 .53125000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
57 0 96 0 .53125000000000000 99 111 9 0 10 0
58 0 112 0 .07000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
59 0 127 0 .07000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
60 0 142 0 .07000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
61 0 157 0 .21000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
62 0 172 0 .21000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
63 0 187 0 .21000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
64 0 202 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
65 0 217 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
66 0 232 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
67 0 247 0 .28000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
68 0 262 0 .28000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
69 0 277 0 .28000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
70 0 626 51 .00050000000000000 99 200 9 0 0 0
71 0 626 52 .00050000000000000 99 200 9 0 0 0
72 0 21 0 .70875000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
73 0 36 0 .70875000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
74 0 51 0 .70875000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
75 0 66 0 .70875000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
76 0 81 0 .53125000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
77 0 96 0 .53125000000000000 112 124 10 0 10 0
78 0 112 0 .07000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
79 0 127 0 .07000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
80 0 142 0 .07000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
81 0 157 0 .21000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
82 0 172 0 .21000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
83 0 187 0 .21000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
84 0 202 0 .14000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
85 0 217 0 .14000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
86 0 232 0 .14000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
87 0 247 0 .28000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
88 0 262 0 .28000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
89 0 277 0 .28000000000000000 112 124 10 0 5 0
90 0 626 6 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
91 0 626 7 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
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93 0 626 9 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
94 0 626 10 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
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98 0 626 53 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
99 0 626 54 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
100 0 626 55 .00050000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
101 0 626 75 .00025000000000000 112 200 10 0 0 0
World 26 terrain Lake in Dusk (this is where those last logs were taken)
Code:
[CommDrop] TerrainIdx ItemKind ItemOpt DropRate MinLv MaxLv Group MaxDropCnt OptPoolIdx DurationIdx
0 0 1 0 .05000000000000000 10 160 0 0 0 0
1 0 22 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
2 0 37 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
3 0 52 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
4 0 67 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
5 0 82 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
6 0 97 0 .00250000000000000 86 160 0 0 0 0
7 0 414 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
8 0 428 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
9 0 430 0 .00250000000000000 70 160 0 0 0 0
10 0 584 0 .00250000000000000 86 200 0 0 0 0
11 0 683 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
12 0 684 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
13 0 685 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
14 0 686 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
15 0 687 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
16 0 688 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
17 0 689 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
18 0 690 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
19 0 691 257 1.00000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
20 0 692 8449 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
21 0 692 8577 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
22 0 692 8705 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
23 0 692 8833 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
24 0 692 8961 .05000000000000000 85 200 0 0 0 0
25 0 783 0 .07500000000000000 1 200 0 0 0 0
26 0 1203 129 .05000000000000000 10 200 0 0 0 0
27 0 21 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
28 0 36 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
29 0 51 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
30 0 66 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
31 0 81 0 .53125000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
32 0 96 0 .53125000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
33 0 111 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
34 0 126 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
35 0 141 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
36 0 156 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
37 0 171 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
38 0 186 0 .70875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
39 0 201 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
40 0 216 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
41 0 231 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
42 0 246 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
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44 0 276 0 .66875000000000000 73 85 7 0 5 0
45 0 291 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
46 0 299 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
47 0 307 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
48 0 353 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
49 0 357 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
50 0 361 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
51 0 371 0 .03125000000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
52 0 374 0 .03125000000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
53 0 383 0 .01562500000000000 73 85 7 0 0 0
54 0 626 38 .00500000000000000 73 200 7 0 0 0
55 0 626 41 .00500000000000000 73 200 7 0 0 0
56 0 21 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
57 0 36 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
58 0 51 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
59 0 66 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
60 0 81 0 .53125000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
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62 0 111 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
63 0 126 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
64 0 141 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
65 0 156 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
66 0 171 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
67 0 186 0 .70875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
68 0 201 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
69 0 216 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
70 0 231 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
71 0 246 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
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73 0 276 0 .66875000000000000 86 98 8 0 5 0
74 0 291 0 .01562500000000000 86 98 8 0 0 0
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147 0 1323 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
148 0 1324 0 .70875000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
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157 0 1333 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
158 0 1334 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
159 0 1335 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
160 0 1336 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
161 0 1337 0 .14000000000000000 99 111 9 0 5 0
Just standing afk in town or some safe zone doesn't cause DC tho. I standed half of day afk without DC, it only occurs in killing mobs.
Ive been thinking a lot but cant think of anything that might cause it. i was thinking about low ram but other than that dc server has no lag at all. any item drop/sell or stats adding is done instantly as fast i can click myself XD
Any ideas why i got DC problem? :S channels keep crashing also without any info in logs.
comp specs:
D856PERL
Intel Pentium 4 3,2ghz HT
2,5gb PC-3200 @ 400mhz DDR
120gb Sata150 8mb HDD
internet specs:
download 2mb
upload 2mb
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Re: ChatNode error
run again /home/cabal/cabal_config.sh and set "log level" to 5 not 3 like default.
This will show more errors for us.
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Re: ChatNode error
thx for tip, i changed to log level 5, i'm gonna wait and see if it gives any information for DC and channel crash. btw the logs are HUGE now XD 338K lines in worldsvr just for opening server :P
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Re: ChatNode error
Yes,i know it 8-)
But will show more common errors to solve your problem.
You have set item per drop to 3?
I have same problem with dropping 3 items,my client was closing so i set to 1.
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Re: ChatNode error
i have had item drop 3 items all the time, didnt cause any problems earlier.
After putting log level 5 it only took 6 minutes when channels crashed. It usually takes few hours to whole day with log level 3.
I cant find any errors that might cause crash in there, the only error there is are hackskillcooltime ones.
Here is link for my logs
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zndnwdynrjv
Maybe you can find something out there that i could not.
EDIT
I put log level back to 3 and now it crashes in few minutes also :S
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Re: ChatNode error
well stop using speedhacks....
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Re: ChatNode error
if you have a way to stop people using it, plz share..
I did not log in myself in those 6 minutes, i cleared logs, put server back and went to sleep cuz i thought it takes many hours until it crashes.
There was only 10 row's of skillhackcooltime errors in these logs and those are errors that i have always had, didnt cause any problems so far. It can also be lag to someone and then show as speed hack.