Forced Swine-Flu Vaccinations - Just say NO!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm3WrUDfzGg"]YouTube - Scientists Refuse Swine Flu Vaccine[/ame]

Facts:
- swine-flu has a mortality rate of only 3% that of the regular flu.
- the U.S. government has the ability to declare martial law due to threat of global pandemic.

Propaganda:
- swine-flu has reached global pandemic levels according to the World Health Organization.




Just say no to forced unneeded, undesired, untested vaccinations!

P.S. Don't waste your time with useless comments suchas "tinfoil hat" etc.

These threads are as bad as the points you are arguing against...

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Originally Posted by gReGiTh

Facts:
- swine-flu has a mortality rate of only 3% that of the regular flu.

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This is very misleading since we know how wide spread the common flu is in comparison to swine flu.

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Originally Posted by gReGiTh

Propaganda:
- swine-flu has reached global pandemic levels according to the World Health Organization.

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Not exactly propaganda since it fits the definition of being in multiple countries...

It's the news that have made that term bigger than what it is, hell the common cold is technically a pandemic. ~_~

The basic point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't fall for either sides fear-mongering...

Crash

Wtf? I thought that it has been ended. >.<
Maybe I feel like that because I had swine flue and nothing special happened to me? 0_o

It's honestly not that bad at all, and is only a threat to you if you have an already compromised immune system. For healthy people, getting swine flu is no different than getting a runny nose.

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Originally Posted by CrashOveride

These threads are as bad as the points you are arguing against...


This is very misleading since we know how wide spread the common flu is in comparison to swine flu.


Not exactly propaganda since it fits the definition of being in multiple countries...

It's the news that have made that term bigger than what it is, hell the common cold is technically a pandemic. ~_~

The basic point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't fall for either sides fear-mongering...

Crash

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Point taken. But I still think the whole swine flu scare has more to do with emergency powers than it has to do with an actual emergency.

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Originally Posted by ProKiller002

Wtf? I thought that it has been ended. >.<
Maybe I feel like that because I had swine flue and nothing special happened to me? 0_o

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yeah, I thought it was dying out aswell, the first couple of weeks it was headlining the news every single day, it started to die down a little then someone died from it and it rose back up to the top bulletin, now that I think it's 28 people have died in my state, or country (can't remember) it's just a 10 second news story.

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Originally Posted by Rishwin

It's honestly not that bad at all, and is only a threat to you if you have an already compromised immune system. For healthy people, getting swine flu is no different than getting a runny nose.

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So say if you had swine flu and you were healthy, but you didnt know you had it, would it eventually kill you?

such a huge scare over swine flu, i too believe it's about more than swine flu(which was created in a lab).

Virus created in lab
Public scared by media
Millions of tablets / vaccinations made
People pumped full of chemicals
Big dollar signs

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Originally Posted by kwabenathebest4

So say if you had swine flu and you were healthy, but you didnt know you had it, would it eventually kill you?

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if you are healthy then your immune system can deal with most things that are thrown at it :)

Exercise, get in the sun, eat whole foods = win

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Originally Posted by kwabenathebest4

So say if you had swine flu and you were healthy, but you didnt know you had it, would it eventually kill you?

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Nope. The media makes a HUGE of how TWENTY PEOPLE WERE KILLED THIS WEEK FROM SWINE FLU!!!!!

What they do NOT tell you is that those people were either immune compromised, were already battling with several illnesses, or were already suffering from other serious diseases.

A mate of mine from College got swine flu. Within 3 days he was back and i was sitting right next to him. We're both quite alive.

Well I don't know what the Australian media is like but over here every time a new death emerged we were told straight away that the person had serious underlying medical conditions. I expect it was the same over there.

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Originally Posted by exclamatio

such a huge scare over swine flu, i too believe it's about more than swine flu(which was created in a lab).

Virus created in lab
Public scared by media
Millions of tablets / vaccinations made
People pumped full of chemicals
Big dollar signs

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[citation needed]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64mrb-M7KE"]YouTube - Madsen: 'Swine flu virus began life in lab'[/ame]

when the bio labs need to send these viruses and other nasties round the country, they choose fed ex! Another not so well known fact :P

heres another good one
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS3PO5mj-a8"]YouTube - A H1N1 virus(swine flu) caused the 1918 pandemic,brought back in a laboratory.[/ame]

https://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/cc11.pdf

read this guys, v.interesting

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Only 40% of the population in my country is going to be vaccinated against it.
Unfortunately I'm one of the 60% which won't get it even if I wanted to.

Mix and Matching....that is so stupid

Pretty sure I had it.. but yeah I'm fine.. it's only bad for older people or already sick people or maybe pregnant women.

I'd get it.
I'd rather not have SwineFlu than have it.

This is abit over the line.
Forcing ppl to get vaccinated, more so incarcerating adults and forcing children.
I guess this is just a portion of the power our government has.
IT's like the beginning to a bad sifi movie

My mom's company had send out letters to all co-workers saying that they need to be vaccinated by the end of October or they cant come back to work.

TBH, theres been a "virus" going around Missouri the past month that has the same symptoms as H1N1, I have had this, my son did too as well as the rest of out family, took 3/4 days to get over it one day we all have 104.2oF temps, hosptial checked out fine, it broke the next day after taking some "profin" Mr Z shook it off faster than most of us lol. I activly refused the vacc for Mr Z as we got offered it resently by the paedotrision(sp?)

Its less deadly than the fucking common flu.

This world is going to kill itself eventually. Pretty soon they'll be forcing us to take a vaccine to cure cancer and then we have the I Am Legend movie going on.

im not getting the vaccine, its a small dose of the swine flu. Its like giving your self the flu. ( by giving your self a small dose of it it lets your body build an immunity to it )

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Originally Posted by Ron

Its less deadly than the fucking common flu.

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Actually it's more deadly than regular flu...

Before you start giving my that swine flu has only killed X number of people but the regular flu has killed Y (where Y > X) does not technically mean it's more deadly, you need to remember proportions...

Remember that you are comparing something which has only had a small number of cases (prob less than 100 ,000) to something which likely has 500,000,000+ cases per year...
(guesstimations based on US having approx 97 ,900,000 cases per year)

Obviously the regular flu is likely to kill more people...

A different example is "on the job" deaths in USA:
In 2008, 50 people died in the fishing industry which is dubbed the deadliest job in America.
However, there were 969 deaths in the construction industry so given your logic that would be the deadliest job since more people died.

As I said though it comes down to proportions, fishing had 128.9 deaths per 100 ,000 workers where as construction only had 9.6 deaths per 100 ,000 workers...

Crash

This just leaves me speechless. We're loosing rights left and right, and the sad thing is that no one does anything about it (nor do the majority of the people care). All I have to say is thank god we have the internet, or we'd brainwashed monkeys. Oh, and about the vaccine; I'd never get it. I haven't had medicine in over 6 years, and I'm perfectly fine, and I am actually less prone to sickness, etc without taking all theses drugs, vaccines that the majority of people take on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by CrashOveride

Actually it's more deadly than regular flu...

Before you start giving my that swine flu has only killed X number of people but the regular flu has killed Y (where Y > X) does not technically mean it's more deadly, you need to remember proportions...

Remember that you are comparing something which has only had a small number of cases (prob less than 100 ,000) to something which likely has 500,000,000+ cases per year...
(guesstimations based on US having approx 97 ,900,000 cases per year)

Obviously the regular flu is likely to kill more people...

A different example is "on the job" deaths in USA:
In 2008, 50 people died in the fishing industry which is dubbed the deadliest job in America.
However, there were 969 deaths in the construction industry so given your logic that would be the deadliest job since more people died.

As I said though it comes down to proportions, fishing had 128.9 deaths per 100 ,000 workers where as construction only had 9.6 deaths per 100 ,000 workers...

Crash

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How can you say it's more deadly then? Surely a much larger number would need to get it in order to gain good enough statistics with all other relevant info, such as other conditions the person has. Imo there are FAR too many variables to ever be able to say one is more deadly than the other. In sure there are modified mutant strains of the common cold which are MUCH worse.

Well all i gotta say is....

Has anyone noticed that when the 'swine flu' firt came out all of the press were like ITs gonna kill MILLIONS!!! wait...no...

And everyone who died with supposibly the swine flu actually had a medical problem themselves...not swine flu..also

When the press had another story, what was it..katie and peter divorce etc, swine flu dissapeared :O?

Now the press have nothing so swine flu has came back? I for 1 will not get forced to get this vaccination, because i dont care what anybody says, its just normal flu apart from its been exagerated from the press

I also agree with Exy, it was made in a somewhat lab, and so was the bird flu, remember..the press made a big deal of that too?