Multi manager error

EDIT:i had a OS SP2 because of that the sql that sik posted didnt worked for me i searched in google sql manager for sp2 found download installed and everything fine..
yesterday my pc asked for update to sp3..then now i have sp3 so maybe the sql i use no not support sql3?[all the databses and tabels etc work fine for me in the sql]
Hello.
i get this error when i try use my multimanager any ideas?

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System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: A network-related or instance-specific error occurred while establishing a connection to SQL Server. The server was not found or was not accessible. Verify that the instance name is correct and that SQL Server is configured to allow remote connections. (provider: TCP Provider, error: 0 - ‏‏ניסיון התקשרות נכשל מאחר שהצד המקושר לא הגיב כראוי לאחר תקופת זמן, או שיצירת ההתקשרות נכשלה מאחר שתגובת המחשב המארח המקושר נכשלה.)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnection.OnError(SqlException exception, Boolean breakConnection)
at System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ThrowExceptionAndWarning(TdsParserStateObject stateObj)
at System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.Connect(ServerInfo serverInfo, SqlInternalConnectionTds connHandler, Boolean ignoreSniOpenTimeout, Int64 timerExpire, Boolean encrypt, Boolean trustServerCert, Boolean integratedSecurity, SqlConnection owningObject)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.AttemptOneLogin(ServerInfo serverInfo, String newPassword, Boolean ignoreSniOpenTimeout, Int64 timerExpire, SqlConnection owningObject)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.LoginNoFailover(String host, String newPassword, Boolean redirectedUserInstance, SqlConnection owningObject, SqlConnectionString connectionOptions, Int64 timerStart)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.OpenLoginEnlist(SqlConnection owningObject, SqlConnectionString connectionOptions, String newPassword, Boolean redirectedUserInstance)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds..ctor(DbConnectionPoolIdentity identity, SqlConnectionString connectionOptions, Object providerInfo, String newPassword, SqlConnection owningObject, Boolean redirectedUserInstance)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnectionFactory.CreateConnection(DbConnectionOptions options, Object poolGroupProviderInfo, DbConnectionPool pool, DbConnection owningConnection)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.CreatePooledConnection(DbConnection owningConnection, DbConnectionPool pool, DbConnectionOptions options)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.CreateObject(DbConnection owningObject)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.UserCreateRequest(DbConnection owningObject)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.GetConnection(DbConnection owningObject)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.GetConnection(DbConnection owningConnection)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenConnection(DbConnection outerConnection, DbConnectionFactory connectionFactory)
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.Open()
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at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
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at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.LateBinding.LateCall(Object o, Type objType, String name, Object[] args, String[] paramnames, Boolean[] CopyBack)
at MultiManager.frmMain.CallFunction()
at MultiManager.frmMain.btnStart_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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MultiManager
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Win32 Version: 1.0.2531.32575
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/imri/שולחן%20העבודה/LeGaCyPT%20ServerFiles/MultiManager.exe
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i thought its stupid to open 2 threads that the main thing is sql server so another question is why when i open allgameuser databse its empty of users and when i open for example tgameuser i can find members there

a) .Net assemblies are borked... IDK why. SQL should not rely on a specific service pack, as you can see from PPT I run it on Win2K just fine, but you may have an outdated .Net framework and SP3 relies on something fixed in a later .Net hotfix?
b) Because you haven't correctly applied the database restore? If you used my GUI version of the SQL Database setup, did you note me mentioning that sometimes it skips a database or two the first time around?

Or do you just mean that AllGameUser table has it's columns defined but no rows? Which is normal. TGameUser will only have any rows if you have a user registered with the initial "t" in their user account name.

I never get anything in any table in Account_DB, only AccountDB... and I suspect (but haven't dared put it to the test) that these are left overs from previous experimentation. I think AllGameUser is the same.

Possibly older PT servers did use AllGameUser, and the database access became too slow, so they broke the table down into sub tables, one for each letter of the alphabet.

TGameUser http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7815/tgameuser.png

AllgameUser
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3851/allgameuser.png

now another thing:
my computer have an hebrew name
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8408/matherfucker.png

so my sql adress is : Hebrewletters\SQLEXPERSS
so what i am trying to say maybe the php scripts multimanager etc...cant read this but my account manager is working and i use there this adress of sql so maybe its not the problem just an i idea.

i used your databse installer bobsbol and i dont see any reason for its will not work for me :S

darknight sorry of double post but i need help here guys..i cant run my server while have errors on sql..so anyone?please
Thanks

The images you list show no errors. I presumed they illustrate the problem fixed. This is how they *should* look.

The Hebrew workgroupe name
אתדי
could well be the problem, but I don't have a Hebrew install to check.

Western Windows installs tell you off for using mixed case, spaces, or non-alpha numeric characters with the exception of "-"... because such characters give problems with LANManager access. I have no knowledge of what Hebrew characters may or may not be safe to use.

If you are looking to use them as part of an internet URI, (not LANManager) then I know that non-ASCII (8-bit characters between code 32 and 128) will not work. Also " ' & @ \ * % $ ! ( ) { } [ ] ^ # : ; , . < > ? | ¬ ` are all reserved, and will give you great difficulty. This upsets far easy Asian internet users and is supposed to be fixed in the DNS specification of Internet2... if that ever happens.

there is no problem you say but my multi manager not work when i use some php to connect my sql and check top10 players i get sql not connected and clan get error 57 wich is connecting error somthing wierd here and let me tell you little thing the php scripts of top10 players goes to allgameusers to check the levels and i dont see any members there so there is no what to read but before everythink i get sql no connect from the scripts...you dont have any idea what to do'?suggestions?maybe re install all sql and database will help?

Doubt it, as what you see in SQL is what I see in SQL. It looks fine.

If it's looking in allgameusers, is it designed to work with a version of ClanSoDManager or SQL.dll that writes to allgameusers? Because I can tell you the game server alone does not.

The lack of connection issue could well be to do with the Hebrew... but try connecting via IP instead of Machine name, or use ODBC, CLI or MDAC connection strings till you find one that works.

It's more likely a PHP or IIS configuration issue... or just a script, or connection string bug.

The .NET JIT error is not a good sign however... I get it a lot on Win2K servers unless I install the .NET SDKs as well as the end-user redistributables. It's one of the main reasons I hate .NET framework.

Managed code that produces debug logs that are unintelligible to programmers, for no apparent reason. Great, and just what advantage does it have over managed cross-platform Java applications which work flawlessly, not just on different processors but different OS as well? Aside from the fact that many "native" Windows APIs are now specifically designed to be accessed only from .NET managed code, and it's compatible with the X-Box 360... Nothing that I can see.

Why use ASP .NET over AJAX? IDK. But it's just the same as the old "why use VHS when Betamax is clearly better" question... just because it's becoming the standard, against all odds, I guess.

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but try connecting via IP instead of Machine name, or use ODBC, CLI or MDAC connection strings till you find one that works.

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i tryed connect from my ip..still now work but what u mean use ODBC,CLI or MDAC connection strings where i can find them how i can know the names of them.

*cant i re-register to sql and choose my sql server?[XXXX/SQLEXPRESS] and not [Hebrewletters/SQLEXPRESS]

but like i said account manager CAN connect to my sql and create account with this adress אמרי\SQLEXPRESS
wierd that clan and php scripts cant.
so i like i said there if you can tell me where i can find this strings names that would be helpfull =]

Well, that's down to the programming language and web server. Some programs are unicode aware, and capable and others are not.

Of course there was no Unicode in DOS, which is where LANManager (Samba, SMB networking) was first developed. Everything was done on Codepages, set in config.sys so MODE CON Codepage xxx type commands. MODE set communications modes on many devices CON is the console, and you could set the character resolution (usually 80x24) and other things besides the character codepage.

That's all history now. But unicode (the ability to specify different codepages on the fly, in the middle of a sentence if needed) was not introduced to Windows until NT4, and wasn't correctly implemented on its Home variants 9X. So programs haven't started using unicode as a core operation until XP became standard, because it was very difficult to determine how the APIs of the OS would react to it's use.

MacOS has supported Unicode since OS8 / 8.2. And Linux doesn't provide Unicode support as such... but it doesn't support anything as a standard. However, the KDE environment most unixes operate the desktop environment under does provide Unicode... I would expect that GNOME et.el. alternatives to KDE will have some Unicode support too.

But then look at the programming languages?

Well... VB 4 doesn't support Unicode. VB 5 and 6 only support Windows Wide strings, dropping support for ANSI as we know it. Windows Wide strings are fairly compatible with UTF-16, which makes custom implementations of UTF-8 (the more popular form of Unicode) possible, but you would have to write it your self.

Does Python, PHP, Ruby etc support UTF? I don't know. C and C++, just like linux don't support anything in particular, unless you manually write your program to do it. WSH (which is used for VBScript, JScript and so on in IIS ASP and ASPX) does support Unicode natively.

I believe that the address of your SQL server is "MachineName\Instance" just as a URL is "protocol:port\\DNSName\pagefile.type". And although you can change the instance in SQL, and run more than one database instance on a machine, you can only change the Machine name in the Windows System Properties... which amounts to departing from the Workgroup / Domain, and rejoining with a new Machine Name and the same old SSID. If you run a Domain, you will notice problems if you join with the same SSID an a different Machine Name without "leaving the Domain" with the old name.

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i tryed connect from my ip..still now work but what u mean use ODBC,CLI or MDAC connection strings where i can find them how i can know the names of them.

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You don't "find" connection strings you write them.

Any database access starts with a DB connection. You can connect via ODBC, Windows Native Client (NCLI), or Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC). The connection string determines the API used, and the syntax for each connection is unique. ODBC is the oldest protocol, and surely won't support Unicode (will it?) MDAC and NCLI are Microsoft propitiatory... I don't know enough about DataBase work to know which may or may not support a unicode Machine name.

I only know that, as a server Administrator, I was taught to name machines (servers and workstations alike) using only A-Z, 1-9 and if absolutely necessary a hyphen ("-".) No other characters should be used because, although some protocols will support it, something will always go wrong with something older. To my mind, these are the same characters that where "safe" in MS DOS file names modified by what is "safe" as a DNS name.

If your IIS is up and running... You would surely have difficulty connecting a web browser to "http:\\אמרי\index.html" wouldn't you? Where my machine "Thor" can connect fine to "http:\\thor\index.html". You see where I'm coming from?

Equally, an XP, Vista or Windows7 (or NT4, Window 2000, 2003 Server or 2008 Server) system could access your file shares from "\\אמרי" but a Windows 95, 98 or ME machine, NT 3.x, OS/2 2.x or a DOS PC with LANManager running on its' SMBIOS NDIS stack could not. All these systems could access "\\THOR". ^_^ (Will, if I disabled the 256-bit encryption requirement on my Vista system, and re-enabled the SMBIOS TCP/IP helper service, which are set for security and speed, not accessibility.)

you really effort in your posts thanks for that =] listen i tryed re install the sql i thought that would solve everything and i get errors in install by following sik guide

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9857/bobcp.png

then like sik said
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2539/bob2m.png

then

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8349/bob3b.png

and here is the error :
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2736/bob4.png

what now?why so many errors its a new pc :S btw i have sp3 if its helps

It's quite difficult to successfully "uninstall" SQL server once it's been installed... It relies on many components that it will just update in the background. It can't remove them on uninstall because they are now part of your system... File searches, start menu, explorer etc etc all rely on SQL, but are happy to use the cut down version till the full version is installed.

When you re-install, if there is anything left of the old install, you will have problems.

I usually re-install Windows in order to uninstall SQL server. It's not necessary, but much much easier... usually.

damn again re install my windows :S i hope there is another way that you know and share it with me
thanks bobsbol

Hmm... well, sometimes I can use a system restore point, if I didn't install too long ago. Or I roll back to a backup of my PC. I go pretty good at Ghosting my PC before installing SQL, because it always messed up for me at the point I set ODBC up... now I put ODBC in the registry directly without using the Database Connection wizard thing. Works like a charm.

If the only think you installed was SQL... then removing EVERYTHING off the Add & Remove Programs, or Programs and Features list CAN WORK... but sometimes even that wasn't enough, hence why I took to making a Ghost backup... and why I only work on VMs now... they are so easy to roll back.

i already did add/delete programs and i have the same errors while installing,i tried repair too same erros i did remove and modify same errors..
i think that system restore point can help can you give me the location of that?the rest ill take care about
but bobsbol i think you wrong about "you cant remove SQL and install again without erros" i mean why not?if its was like that i am sure microsoft wouldnt put a REMOVE option in the installation and its just wierd its should work even if u have deleted that. [i guess]
i think i made a big mistake that i removed it because the only problem was that php CANT read hebrew [guess too lol] and the solution was to change computer name into english and i did it yesterday i didnt knew its possible..
so to the topic what next?system restore point?

I can only tell you that theoretically it shouldn't be a problem... Theoretically using Data Sources (ODBC) wizard should work fine... In practice, I have had considerable difficulty using standard methods.

I can also tell you that the lack of users ability uninstall items on Windows systems was a major motivation behind Microsoft introducing and only providing their logo to software which uses their MSI (Microsoft Installation Engine). SQL Server 2005 doesn't use this engine for many of it's components, and isn't a matter of installing a single application... It's lots of little bits, many of which remove standard bits of Windows... I haven't noticed the uninstaller ask me to put the Windows disc back in, so there is no way that uninstalling it can be leaving the system as clean as it was before installation.

As a Network Admin I often used to use an installation monitor tool which snapshotted before and after installation, archiving changed components so that you could effectively reverse an install... but just like backups, you have to do it before you need it. In this case, before you install. I always make a log of any changes made to my system by any installation... but even armed with all this, I have spent days trying to uninstall SQL Server to the point where I could re-install it, and given up and restored the last Ghost set before it went on, or just made a fresh Windows install.

I must say that I have been on Windows Vista for 2 and a half years now, and have never had to re-install. And I though 6 - 8 months between re-installs of my Windows 2000 system was good, as I reinstalled Win98 every 2 months guaranteed. I have never needed to reinstall Linux, BSD, BeOS, Amiga OS or MacOS X. I did re-install Acorn RISC OS once or twice in order to clear out older versions of obeydir scripts or typeface libraries. It's just one of the things that sux about Windows, and MS know it.

They do well to keep this legacy flaw under control, especially with UAC protection left enabled on there current OS, System Restore and the System File Checker in their older OS. But each of these initiatives met resistance from their user base, despite the fact that it is the only way to resolve the issues they complain about most.

Their installer for SQL is not great, but they do recommend you don't install it non-server operating systems, (where you never install anything you are ever going to uninstall) and never uninstall it, or if you do, never try to re-install it. At least, this is what I've read from the MSVPs on Microsofts forums. No server manager would ever uninstall software on a server... they would rebuild the server first. In fact, we transport the services of a server from one set of hardware to another more often than we remove any component or feature of the system, since users get really funny about services that they are used to having access to go off-line without any notification... any form of maintainence to a server has to be planed thoroughly well in advance, and users must be given a full itinerary of worst case scenarios so they can plan their activities around any possible difficulty.

If you work with servers, rather than play with them, you know this. :wink: As you are learning through play, you can see from this experience why this is so.

Windows system restore is under System Protection in the System Properties and in System Tools from the Accessories Group of the Start Menu.

ok.
what you are saying here is alot of usefull info but i dont see any solution to my problem..you have mentioned my mistakes but not how to fix them because i already Uninstall the sql so what now?should i try system restore?or there is a better solution because i do not want reinstall windows xp.

There is a better solution... you just restore from the backup you made before you installed SQL Server...

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Imri?

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What? You didn't make a system wide backup before you installed SQL Server? OH NOES!!!

(I jest with you, of course. The whole section above has a massive wry wink on it, you just can't see it. :wink:)

If XPs System Restore doesn't do the trick there is NO other solution I know of to get around it than to reinstall Windows.

If ANYONE knows of a way, *I* would love to hear it too. I may work on VMs and keep backups and all that stuff, but when uninstalling SQL foobars your OS so you can't use SQL again, it is really annoying. I've been caught out by it many times, and I'd love not to have to restore Ghost images or rollback VMs but I just don't know what it is that SQL leaves behind when in uninstalls that means you can't re-install it.

I'm sure you know there are many, many "uninstaller cleaner" programs and "system cleaner" programs which claim to clean up after a bad (poorly written) uninstaller. Many of them are quite expensive, and in my experience, none of them can do as good a job as I can do by logging an installation process and reverting all the changes made... and even that has not been sufficient with SQL Server.

YMMV. I wish for your sake that it does.

I mean what? Is it some dead registry entry, something corrupted in the Component Object Model, system files left hanging around that the installer can't upgrade because they came from it in the first place? I just don't know.

Can I use some magic installer switch to not bother checking if the system is suitable for installation and it will work anyway? If there is I've not found it.

---EDIT---

While I'm mentioning expensive solutions that don't work well... and for future reference, I say Ghost because it's well known system imaging software, but it's not cheep. I've used it professionally, but at home I tend to use TerraByte Unlmiteds BootIt! NG. It's not free, but it's not expensive, and the trial works perfectly well, and has no time restriction so long as you are happy to boot it off a floppy or CD, it's only limited if you want to use the boot manager. It images drives or partitions, and can resize partitions, re-order partitions, create or delete partitions too. So there is a lot more than you get with Ghost. (providing you don't want to Multi-cast images, which is getting harder with current OS licensing restrictions anyway)

Another well recommended free (for personal use) software is DriveImage XML. I've not used that one, but it runs in Windows so you don't need to burn a disc to use it, or even boot your PC down. Personally I just feel safer burning my OS off to discs (or, these days, more likely a NAS or portable hard drive) when it isn't running, but the DFS and mirroring services provided by modern OS mean it *shouldn't* be a problem, if your not as paranoid as me.

lol of course i didnt its me forgot? :P
ill format my pc tmr xD i dont want f*ck up my system =]
thanks bobsbol and when i format the pc ill try install sql i guess its will work if not i will post here so darknight please dont close this topic yet
thanks

bump.. i need help here :S
Still got this multimanager error, i dont need to quatoe again because u can see all details in first post.
i tried use versions 3.5 2 1.1 same error in all of them..
i need this to be fixed for my rank because there is not another way to make clan rank work.
if it helps i have windows 7,but this post is when i had windows xp but the error is the same
Thanks and sorry for bump and double posting.

edit:http://forum.ragezone.com/f286/reque...system-306338/

looks like more people are getting errors from sandurr softwares