I am looking to bring a new addition, with MentaL's permission ofcourse, to the RaGEZONE Private Servers and I am wondering what the community wants.
Post ideas, comments, opinions, articles, dissertations and the like to help put your case forward.
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I am looking to bring a new addition, with MentaL's permission ofcourse, to the RaGEZONE Private Servers and I am wondering what the community wants.
Post ideas, comments, opinions, articles, dissertations and the like to help put your case forward.
Henti... yep.
Honestly though, we'll need a lot of packet sniffers out there if we want to do a newer game. I'm all for it, I've been wanting Rz to get new stuff in here for awhile.
I'm pretty sure many people are as willing as you are. I just hope its something new and innovative which will hopefully make RaGEZONE the pinnacle of development of that game.
Aye I bet others are aswell, but I have a tried and tested track record with RaGEZONE so I feel I am in a good position to get something new started.
Lunia Online. :)
Or... Silkroad!
Or.. DnF!
Yeah, I figured. Some of the lads from MentaL's Lair just whacked up a CS:S server, whether or not its official for RaGEZONE though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Both games are shit, and old imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by walterngo
DFO? Its a pretty good game, But its up to you i guess for the final decision.
Why a Counterstrike: Source server of course.
CS:S I got a 12 slot private server that some regulars from the Hidden Section play, whether or not it would be accepted onto ragezone as official is another story..
It's rife with development seeing as valve released their development kit for free, for anyone that owns any game of theirs.
Also, servers are rife, and come in all shapes and sizes, and we already have active server for us regulars to play on, and so far we have custom maps mods etc and it is fantastic fun.
Seeing as games like SA:MP which aren't technically MMORPGs (and I was involved in) are allowed, why not bring on some CSS development, it's something I'd really love to be a part of and see happen on ragezone.
The game can be downloaded for free although I don't recommend it and you can't join our server, but it does still allow development and server hosting, therefore, it being a paid game makes no difference to the development.
If you're going to write a pserver for a game (mmo/etc) and it's going to pay, then I'd be in. Can't be bothered donating time these days, homes don't usually buy themselves and the likes.
Not CSS. If anything, TF2 or HL2DM.
CSS's default world settings are shit, and there are too many QQ noobs.
Don Percifal Wulfrick Brain Tonberry for supermod?
Private server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintee
Not to mention the large number of Steam users who own a legit copy of CS:S and how popular it is, considering it was released in 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
There's also enough development resources to drown in. Literally.
I was thinking different, more MMORPG type game rather than simple private FPS servers.
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*cough* RPG mod for CSS *cough*
....yeah it really does exist. But anyway, answered OP thanks for the thread good chance to get a bit of a census.
Yeah, I mean I am wanting to bring something new to RZ, I can just throw a few dollars to one side to get a 24 man CSS server and not do much other than let some custom maps be played.
Let's think original and let's think about innovation.
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Ah well there's where I went wrong, clearly you are talking about a server under ragezones name, almost given up on that, I was talking about development, on completley different planes, easily mixed up. :$:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Yeah, rebuild the RZ server name brand - maybe if this pans out we start looking at the CSS thing, its a good game and it still attracts a large userbase.
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The biggest thing is going to be stability in host. If you can only pull a 93% monthly uptime excluding intended maintenance, people go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Good hosting costs $. Good hosting that doesn't bomb when some skiddy points a botnet at it costs $$$$$. Considering that RZ has been being molested by such attacks, I'd expect the pservers would as well, so there's always that.
I used to run RZ RYL which was targetted by one such person using a botnet. It effectively destroyed the server so yeah I agree its something that needs to be looked at.
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I think a section for css would be nice.
After all, roce does thinks it;s nice.
I'll call for you to decide what you wanna host if you're developing. If not, host whatever game you can find dedicated developers for.
No point hosting a game with little to no development due to the lack of interest. If you develop actively, you probably also play the game and understand what users want most + know about balancing the game.
For me, I don't mind any game.
It'd be nice to get a few private servers up in various games like CS:S, SA:MP and such, but I'm all for a new game. There aren't many decent ones under or up for development.
Actually sounds like a good idea.
Guild Wars anyone? :P
Is that even possible?
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Cops and robers
but being serious : a game that's fun that you can fuck around on without people PMSing, if there's any kind of game like that..
Guild Wars is that type of game, fun based easy fun
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Cops and robbers is fun on GTA SA:MP. Maybe offer a few game modes?
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Or change the script weekly/monthly.
Problem with a San Andreas:Multiplayer server is, the game costs and to avoid costs it involves warez which MentaL has said is a big no-no. As fun as it can be and as much as I'd love to have a GTA server that isn't run by a tool (remember Diseased?), maybe not what DTB is looking for.
Ach, well that's shit. I could say the same thing about CS:S though.
I would love to see a SA:MP server as I've generally never really got into the game but I've always wanted to. Are the RZ servers really popular?
Doesn't have to be an MMO, doesn't have to be a constant world game. It needs to be fun, and it needs to attract enough players to make the cost of running the server seem worthwhile.
So far we've got:
- Guild Wars - which if possible is a fair shout.
- Counter-Strike: Source - sounds good, but in practice there is thousands of them out there.
- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Multiplayer. Again, been done to death and GTAIV is out there now with inbuilt stable multiplayer.
They were really popular, but they're old, dead and buried now. Probably why this thread arose.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDK
By looking at some screenshots of Guild Wars, I don't think I'll be playing. Not exactly into fantasy/medieval games. Maybe since GTA SA:MP is so common, GTAIV server?
I vote for CS but not source CS1.6 NON-STEAM is popular then source, and for a GTA server make it SAMP not IV ( cuz i don't have the game QQ)
Throwing it out there, what about something completely new? Like using one of these engines and a few developers to develop an RZ Only Game?
Well that's what I meant with my first post. You mean development of a completely new game from scratch? Or an emulator of a game yet to be developed?
I think he means something totally new, nothing done before, a game from scratch. If he does then I completely agree.
Scratch. Start it off nice and small. I been working of a few ideas, something that is small, not too ambitious and would be very fun online.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
That would be pretty sweet to develop a who new game! Lets do it!
Depending how many people chip in and such, this game could either make RZ huge, or just fail epically. I'm all in.
Pitch in? Money wise?
Haha hold your horses, something like that would take a while to organise, build a team, design how the game will play etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Giro
You do it right you do it like a business, not slaphandedly.
Gotcha!Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
I'm pretty sure the only money to be spent developing a game via the forum would be server costs really. If people are willing enough, they'd all chip in with graphics, coding, management.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giro
I Can maybe help with graphics, gui, that kinda of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
ill talk later i gtg.
And truthfully, how many of us here now have any experience whatsoever in developing a game, no matter how small? I have limited experience but thats not my expertise.
I lack in programming and graphics shamefully, but damn I'm willing to help out with absolutely anything.
Just thinking about this, there is shit loads to organise. Name, type, web-based?
Aion :O.
Again, another fantasy game. We're talking revolutionary here.
Very good idea , but please don't make it mmo game or fantasy game , make it a war game with some nice graffics , like CS or COD , i hope we have some good devs that can do that work nicelly.
Haha more than that to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Game Design document needs to be drawn up, which I could possibly do. Before that consultation will need to be made to see what type of game is going to be made, then what features the team feels is realistically possible to implement.
Once document is drawn up, the engine will be chosen, if not chosen, built. From there the game is built.
Lots of planning, lots of work.
Nah, there are too many FPS games which run on similar game engines. We need to go back to basics here and build on that.
And yeah, they were just a few that were on my mind, and they're pretty much the major ones.
I'm thinking something RPG. How about a game based on life?
Life? Try smaller first mate :)
Whether the game is RPG, MMORPG, FPS etc is the major factor. From there a name is spawned and basically grows.
Life? you mean you wan RZ to make a game like sims? DUDE.
Yeah, but first/third person. That's a game I'd enjoy.
Bring back Khan Online
And it wouldn't work - PS3 has that kinda thing called Home.
Set yours sights further down, companies who make CoD and such spend millions of dollars on funding stuff like that.
I can possibly help if it's based on VB, C# or C++
We're just bouncing ideas here, something more concrete starts to set then we'll see what grows.
Well I think we need still need to gather further views from forum members on whether or not they want a completely brand new game, or just an emulator?
From then on, if they decide a completely new game, a thread dedicated to the views on a new game.
For that we could get a Gmod DarkRP server, Its sort of based on life just as an fps, its not fun and there's hundreds of abusers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
I don't think that kind of thing could work.. well.
Well if there are hundreds of abusers maybe we can re-create it in such a way that it's so fun that it doesn't need to be abused? :P:
Good luck with that :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
But a nice little 2d game like Soldat or Teeworlds would be awesome, I don't think it would take much to make either, A friend of mine made something like that using Gamemaker not sure how you'd make it multiplayer though.
A few lads made a Metal Slug remake. That was pretty cool.
We should go with simple very simple but addictive and enjoyable. Nothing too big or fancy until we're sure that it's not going to die out and then we can develop a bigger version.
Sort of what Jagex did with RuneScape? Started small and minimal with 2D playing, and have now grown much bigger.
Exactly. Nice, simple and something to build on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDK
Hit me up if you guys wanna make a brand new game. I have something sweet for you :):
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Well we need to know for definite if the forum users want a new game.
I can also see if I can get a hold of that Metal Slug thing if you want.
The big boss will be happy if we make it something that will earn money or earn users. :P
That too. I'm looking forward to this! :):
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http://forum.ragezone.com/f86/msm-10...elease-622682/
Theres the metal slug thread.
Don't wanna burst anyone's bubble but all the 'successful' games out there have cost millions of dollars to develop... I don't think we have that kind of money, also.. Can't we revive RZ Adventures - XIYA? Without Kaoii :( But still, could we? If that game got to multiplayer... oh lawdy i'd play :P:
I'm sure our game won't reach that standard though, so there's no need to worry. Plus, we'll probably just allow people in and around the forum to just chip in coding/graphics/etc, so I don't think a huge cost will be accumulated, if theres a cost at all.
metin2
I play so little these days I have no clue which game I'd like to see, and probably wouldn't play any for longer than a week.
Making a RZ brand game does sound fun, heck, after coming here for over 6 years it feels just right. If many old faces join, you can count me in as a designer and dev.
If it's something that makes money, I'd feel ripped off if the money went anywhere else but to the devs. Sure, RZ hosting and such should be paid out of it, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDK
Noone up for Rz Adventures: Xiya? :(
And as the absolute legend that you are, a project like this would be lucky to have you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Negata
You're right also, RaGEZONE is massive, it's huge and I feel it's about time it had something of it's own, a branded game developed by members of the community for members of the community.
Another crappy looking fantasy game. We want something new and innovative. There are plenty of those games.
If I were to somehow help out and develop, I'd expect not a single penny to be fair. I think everybody deserves a cut though if it starts to make millions. :ott1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Negata
Making something new is several orders of magnitude more difficult than making an emulator for something..
What RaGEZONE needs is something more than an emulator though.
jMerlin you are a great coder, you would be able to assist a tiny bit, no?
My time costs, if it's going to require a lot of time, I won't be able to help much. If it pays (well enough), that's a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by EliteGM
I think it would be wise to create a poll?
With the Don flying the plane it sounds like a fun flight.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
That's pretty obvious. However, I think of it as a fun hobby, and as long as it feels fun and interesting I don't mind working without a pay, just so I'm not free labor for someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
The same, it's something to do and give back to the community. You make money afterwards that's another thing, and that's something which I can handle.
Priston Tale 2, no doubt.
Probably the best MMORPG I've played in awhile.
I am currently working on an emulator for it, coded in C#. If anyone would like to help me, please do.
http://forum.ragezone.com/f206/prist...coders-675521/
http://forum.ragezone.com/f111/pt2em...ulator-675057/
Well if you're talking about making a game, what happened to the Rz project a few years ago?
If I remember right, that was almost finished??
That's what I have been trying to sayyyyyyyyyy. RZ Adventures: XIYA.
A new game just simply isn't practical unless it's some 2D crap or using an existing and freely licensed 3D engine with shitty looking art (maps/models/textures/shaders/etc) and stock music. In those kinds of games it's writing that wins out, and gameplay modes that are extremely long lasting (almost any good multiplay really).
If - this is a big if - a project like this got underway it'd be using a engine that is out on the market already. I don't plan on undertaking something like this without experienced people so I expect the outcome to be decent and fun and a unique point to RaGEZONE.
Enlighten me.Quote:
Originally Posted by EliteGM
It's from before your time; I'm not 100% sure but Kaoii made a 2d game back in the day, called 'RaGEZONE Adventures: XIYA'. I assume you're sceptical about it from hearing this but trust me; it was surprisingly fun and I would've really loved to see it in multiplayer but it never got continued :(
Maybe it's laying around in some archives somewhere on the webz.
ahahaha what a great imagination, if you are capable of developing a game (and by the way it's not a 1 man job, neither is what you listed half of what makes a game) then you don't do it for free. As much as I would love to see something like that, silly expectations like that only lead to dissapointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Well I've never developed a game to be fair, so I'm not sure what's required. I'm pretty sure somebody has developed a game of their own by themselves, completely free of charge.