Who else here watches the Tournaments? MLG is on now and IdrA and HuK are playing!
I feel I have to be up for IdrA this tournament.
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Who else here watches the Tournaments? MLG is on now and IdrA and HuK are playing!
I feel I have to be up for IdrA this tournament.
Should I buy this game or not? I might if there was some sort of ragezone clan, I love RTS games as they dont require much time as MMORPG's.
yes you should, it's an insanly good rts, there's so much dynamic, no game is ever the same, ever.
and don, im watching, rootin for ret and idra. as i play zerg and idra is a total baller while ret coming from broodwar and just rapes everyone
IdrA just played amazingly well, LastShadow was all about the cheese.
Yes buy it, the storyline is fucking epic.
And yeah Asians and Zerg can kiss my ass. HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY SO GOOD?
IdrA is definitely a contender but I don't see him as a clear cut winner, top 5 no doubt though unless in an upset he gets knocked out. I believe he's playing qxc in the winner's bracket tomorrow morning, which will probably be the early highlight, with Drewbie vs HuK which should be a pushover really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontoncherry
That stream quality was HORRIBLE, their game settings are way off :(.
Btw, that KiWiKaKi vs WhiteRa game was pretty epic. DT rush into nexus snipe into epic stalker micro. That would've definitely been completely different pre-patch. That nexus would've died the first time and possibly quite a few drones. That hallucination warp was just epic.
IdrA rage is epic lol. He's a completely cocky elitist asshole but I suppose when you're one of the best players in the world you have a little room to be elitist. A friend and I laughed earlier that it'd be hilarious if he lost to a reaper harass, post-patch. I would've lol'd so hard. I heard in the warmups he was destroying everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omer
Zergs aren't too big of a deal, you just have to keep up in macro. If they pull ahead too much, you'll lose every time. If you can delay the expo and force a 1-base, it's pretty easy to overwhelm them early on. Well timed 4-gates can also do enough damage to end the game early against zergs that don't scout it and respond appropriately. Terran can do similar with hellions/banshees for harass into a nice fast bio push to snipe down the expansion hatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaCheat
And the hardcore Koreans are playing 12+ hours a day, that's how they are so good. :o
I've had this game, Collector's Edition no less, when it was first released... playing it often since, and I've YET to play a single League game, yet got 700+ custom games.
i.e. - I'm a UMS fanatic for it, so no I don't watch anything Tourny related as I got no interest with the Melee [normal] aspect of the game... :P
I fucking love custom games too Daedius lol. But yeah Dan. Worth buying.
meh ill order it later then maybe.
Yeah last nights came where seriously top notch, my personal favourite was probably Gretorp vs HuK and IdrA vs LastShadow.
Loved how LastShadow dared to cheese IdrA every matchup, I believe he did this so IdrA would lose his rag and through away a game. However he did play well the 2nd matchup, beating IdrA with the Thor cliff drop.
Hopefully some of the matches tonight will be even better.
Where are these vids at? the SCII site?
mlgpro.com - there is a free low def stream. I paid for the HD one.
Wow the guy in blue looks high as fuck...haha
idrA isn't really a rager anymore, he had a good reason to rage back 2 patches ago
Now with Zergs being the prominent race he won't have to rage? ;)
Roach Buff is a great addition, although with the speed any competent Zerg can get them out a little too imba imo.
zerg isn't the best race, we just have really good players right now, zvp is still extermely hard for me at mid diamond level, while zvt is pretty good
ZvP is a little bit broken right now. Really good zergs just can't lose to protoss, regardless of their skill level. A lot of the best say ZvP is their hardest matchup but then ace the best protoss in the world like it's nothing, only losing to surprising tactics (ie 2-immortal drop + 5-warp zealot rush). I only see them struggle against terran because terran can actually counter them. Mutalisks are just a bit too strong in ZvP, and I'm pretty sure that's one of the big issues. Regular roach/hydra play is a lot stronger now and FE is harder as protoss so it comes down to pressure and out-playing to win since any good zerg can really put the shut-down on your expanding while macroing at an insane rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omer
Also, the stargate is all but useless now in PvZ. Early phoenixes shut down mutaling before it starts but make you weak against roach/hydraling, normally that'd be fine because you could grab a few voids and do some damage on 2 fronts, but voids are abysmally weak now being nerfed not only in speed and charged damage but heavily in upgrades as well (Patch 1.1.2 Undocumented Changes (thread remake)). Carriers have always sucked unless you got a decent number of them and air dominance spurs on roach/hydraling and hydras with range upgrade make carriers completely useless, even just a handful of them. So the stargate is useful only to get phoenixes for early harass (queen snipage mainly) and preventing mutalisks from showing up but otherwise it's a waste of minerals and gas and weakens gate/robo play necessary to kill roaches+hydras. So the central issue here is that mutalisks are so strong they have to be stopped by early pressure or prevented with a stargate or they'll win via harass and sheer damage (even lots of blink stalkers + gs and upgraded shields don't help too much, muta mobility is retardedly huge), and doing those hurts your macro to a point that any zerg with a competent macro game will win with a standard roach/hydraling. If mutalisks weren't "omg omg omg I'm gonna die" -- it'd be better.
Against lesser zergs, detection isn't as essential because they don't often get harassed by invis in PvZ, mainly cloaked banshee harass is all they see. I'm favoring a very fast 4-gate with DTs to snipe down the spire or kill the lair to prevent detection and drops then just dominate with invis while ffing @ home with sentries. I'll give it a shot in ladder since it's the strongest thing I can think of. Either that or halluc or something else for scouting, if I see a spire, go straight to HTs and get archons for the mutas and a strong gateway army into a 2-3 base robo army for the assault since mutaling would be shut down. It's a really hard matchup for protoss.
im a 1.1kish zerg, i just lost to 3 4 gates in a row, that's not even considered a cheese, no matter what i make they counter it, roach ling, mass ling, they'll have a counter for it