DotA Vs. LoL

Keep it clean, let's not flame lets discuss

I personally far prefer DotA I find it's a far more deep and rewarding game, LoL is focused on very cookie-cutter tactics and is more for casual gamers or the gamers who like to put on a large ego because they used a carry to get a tripple kill.


Here is a discussion on that topic exactly between myself and an avid LoL player from my community and want to get RaGEZONE's take on the subject of DotA vs LoL and find out your opinions.

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Originally Posted by Synthonic

DotA's depth of hero skill progression and item builds exceed LoL's by at least tenfold, each hero has a possible 4-5 builds as they were made that way, all with their own counters and such. Which is hilariously sad since it's limited by the Warcraft 3 Engine/War3 Map Scritping Engine.

Many more game modes than LoL(DotA has I think around 30+ different modes); and since games like LoL and HoN came out, the only DotA players left are the legends like myself. It provides a challenging balanced game where you have to use your mind a lot, as well as react quick in a team battle or gank.

Switch feature in DotA; problem with leavers? Switch a player over at random, at vote, or let someone just choose.

6v6 gameplay possible with the DotA 6v6 maps; WTF mode possible with the WTF maps, enjoy your random skills on yoru hero and new skills and hero each time you die?

Massive amounts of heros (DotA Heroes)
Day/Night differences in gameplay, decreased sight range in night, yet some heros gain power in the night as well.

And MUCH more; where's your LoL at now?

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Originally Posted by Yoon

I'm pretty sure every champion aside from a few that need to get reworked and are planning on getting reworked have several viable builds you can use. If you actually played seriously you'd see that, I can guarantee you that the majority of people who play a certain champion have their own build and how they play it. It's not like you can make retardedly different builds anyway, if you're playing a carry then you just build whatever you need to destroy the other team. It's just like how tanks build to counter the carries/threats on the other team.

Such as?

Oh and I lol'd at the "legends such as myself" because I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be hard to transition into LoL if you were as good as you claimed to be and I've played with you. I wouldn't even say you're 1200 elo. Considering that the majority of the 1900+ elo players on LoL used to play and be good on DoTA, you should be up there, but you aren't. I wonder why xd.

Welcome to the world of Moba's.

I don't think I've really ever had a problem with leavers, and they just implemented a new system to deal with leavers anyway. So doesn't matter to me.

6v6 doesn't interest me. WTF modes with WTF maps don't interest me as well since I don't like gameplay being broken for the sake of the lulz.

I counted 100 some champions, DoTA has been out for a large amount of years. League of Legends has around 60 champions, with more coming out and it's been out for about a year and a half IIRC. Not like having 100 champions and having 5 champions that are pretty much the same thing would count anyway.

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Originally Posted by Synthonic

Quite obviously at the core your builds are tank builds and carry builds and alike, what I was getting at is the fact that there is such a massive amount of items that each tank build(as an example) can attribute the situation different. As far as LoL goes there is like "Tank? Ok get one of these 3items" Where as DotA is. "Tank? Which hero are you? Who are you playing against? Who are your teammates, how do you personally play your hero" What I'm saying is LoL is focused far more on cookie-cuter tactics and if you want to get advanced you have VERY slim pickings. Carries are a wholenother level of item builds, I wouldn't even know where to start.

You've played two games with me, in which I had never played since Beta. Both times I went positive and controlled the chaos in team fights with one of the very few actual good champs; Viegar. I didn't do fantastic, no. Although considering it was my first game in a year and balancing changed CONSIDERABLY I did perfectly fine for my skill level in DotA. What you're talking about is players who transitioned from DotA TO LoL, I've played LoL on VERY rare occasions.

The 6v6 modes and WTF modes provide a nice change from the normal and are actually quite entertaining if you get a bunch of friends together. See who gets gifted by the gods, and see who gets shafted. Gotta love a high STR gain hero getting all high INT spells. Lulzzz.

Feeders, unbalanced teams if you're playing casually, or any reason at all. The switch is just a beautiful feature that really makes the game far better.

I've played and can name off how to play and good items for every DotA hero except for ones n the last 3 months. And there are no heros that are the same. They are all quite different. I'd like you to try and find heros that are the exact same as each other, or even remotely the same. It comes down to the balancing; something which IceFrog has down to a T.

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I'm just wondering what RaGEZONE's take is on DotA vs LoL. And no, don't drag HoN into this, HoN is terrible and doesn't even compare to either.

DotA, and they are going to make DotA 2 soon, by Valve and Icefrog.

I'm a HoN player but I'll leave it out

Though I've only played on DoTA a couple of times, I'd say that DoTA>LoL.
I mean, since HoN and Dota have the same gameplay, I find them much more fun and challenging to play compared to LoL. LoL seems to be slower and much more simple compared to DoTA and I could go around and get all the recommended items. Although LoL has tiny weenie better graphics than DoTA, it's just too simple to go into the lane and farm, and get your items. :*: Maybe I'm new to LoL but still I'd prefer DoTA and HoN <3. I'll play DoTA 2 once it's released.

I prefer DotA over LoL (I like LoL too though, it's kinda fun). DotA's just a bit more about strategy in terms of choosing a hero, item builds, how your team plays, etc. (IMO :D)

DotA for me. :D

DotA is the best... Though I haven't tried LoL.

League of Legends All Day !

DotA is harder then LOL. I have only played DotA at my friends so I cant really give a answer. Lol however gets kinda boring because all you do is kill minions and lvl up and kill other chars and thats it. When you've done that about 100 times you start to loose interest.

i prefer LoL, last time i played Dota , i noticed classes are way unbalanced. At least LoL is based more on tactics and such.

I haven't played DotA in almost 4 years and I played one game against guys who play it daily and broke their souls without effort. LoL is a different game and in it's own way better. The comparison isn't there. In DotA, I never thought of resistance, hybriding, or whether or nor a certain bush held an ambush. In DotA I never had to vary my build, rarely lost. DotA doesn't have creep aggression, nor does it have the type of taunting and priority system. LoL improved on a lot of lack, just as DotA 2 will
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Originally Posted by GhostSnyper

I haven't played DotA in almost 4 years and I played one game against guys who play it daily and broke their souls without effort. LoL is a different game and in it's own way better. The comparison isn't there. In DotA, I never thought of resistance, hybriding, or whether or nor a certain bush held an ambush. In DotA I never had to vary my build, rarely lost. DotA doesn't have creep aggression, nor does it have the type of taunting and priority system. LoL improved on a lot of lack, just as DotA 2 will
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DotA has creep aggression, and tower priority targeting; magic res and "bushes" exist too, very much so. Keep in mind how the tree's in DotA are riddled with little paths and shortcuts through the woods. Even more so than LoL. DotA has changed quite a lot since your 4 years; ever since IceFrog took over it's changed a lot, and for the better.

Maybe. I know I'm picking up a copy of DotA 2, so I know it's not a prejudice thing. I think right now LoL is a more fundamentally sound game. Matchmaking, most of the time that is, matches you with players that you know are as good as you or better. I had the problem in DotA that i'd either be playing absolute rubbish players or god tier religious sociopaths. In LoL, I play guys at my 1600 Elo range, and the occasional 1900 who brags and gets shat on. I am really looking forward to DotA 2's improvements, and want to see some of the player interactions they are implementing (mentor stuff etc)
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Originally Posted by GhostSnyper

Maybe. I know I'm picking up a copy of DotA 2, so I know it's not a prejudice thing. I think right now LoL is a more fundamentally sound game. Matchmaking, most of the time that is, matches you with players that you know are as good as you or better. I had the problem in DotA that i'd either be playing absolute rubbish players or god tier religious sociopaths. In LoL, I play guys at my 1600 Elo range, and the occasional 1900 who brags and gets shat on. I am really looking forward to DotA 2's improvements, and want to see some of the player interactions they are implementing (mentor stuff etc)
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From what I heard, they're making DoTA 2 into pretty much DoTA with better graphics.

As far as DoTA vs LoL. They're different games, not to mention LoL is more friendly towards newer players encouraging people to actually learn the game.

DoTA: Hard to play, harder to master.
LoL: Easy to play, hard to master.

You can say all you want how LoL is cookie cutter, but the fact is that you haven't played High ELO and seen the type of gameplay and the difference between lower skilled and higher skilled players.

It's very much so different.

tl;dr, LoL actually has a learning curve. DoTA is old and Dawson isn't a DoTA master as he so claims. (Funny cause he reminds me of M1lkfat from HoN)

DotA: Pro or Good Game

LoL: ?

I never played Wc3 dota. Started with LoL; played it for a year and then tried Heroes of Newerth out.

What can I say? Been playing HoN for a year now. Think of it as Dota with a new engine (but with less heroes... for now at least.)

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