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I mean seriously, I post about a bug in the system which doesn't allow me to login, and we got both a mod and his sidekick bitching about how I get special treatment because I don't get flamed for that topic.
Just when you think RZ is running out of idiots, a new batch shows up. ;)
Welcome to RZ :P
Hey why not drop by HH section ^^? then you'll see what ragezone has become
Oh I was sure this thread was about my co-workers.
So you're new here?
Yes, that's exactly what this thread is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
Noting at all to do with the fact that you completely missed the point of the last thread.
Look I'm not here to start a flaming war or a fight, but face it, some Mods and Admins are fucking biased, I can search advert threads and prove to you. You seem mature for your age O_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
None cares though, em.. I mean I don't. Some people simply deserve "special" attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
Mature for my age? Exactly how old do you think i am?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
And mods being biased has absolutely zero relevance to this topic.
Around 20, not always acting the age. (I was sarcastic btw)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
This topic is relevant to a topic that was relevant on mods being biased.
Yea, like i said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
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Originally Posted by Rishwin
I know the point of it, and I understand it, but even if this was a normal user, no one would give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
not really. If it was a concern relevant to us we would agree. If it doesn't concern us we don't give a fuck. If it is retarded simply because there is an alternative to it/ you can just bear with it then the person gets bashed.
Shows how little you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
MentaL does give a fuck about his site, if there are things preventing people from using it then he will look for ways to fix it.
Whether other people would give a fuck is not really relevant.
The point you were making though was that people would normally get flamed for it.
So basicly you are saying, if there is a bug in the system and you report it, then you get flamed. If you don't get flamed for reporting that bug you are getting special treatment.
I'm guessing you're not a straight A student.
lolinvisibletextQuote:
Originally Posted by Riku
FUCK YEAH BBCODE
fuck you pieman :( i clicked :(
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Originally Posted by Riku
stfu '09Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
good songQuote:
Originally Posted by Pieman
It's not restricted to forums only, every village has its idiot(s).
but this village has a whole section of it called Habbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordDemonMan
and that part of the village seems to be taking over the rest!
I don't think your description of the events matches the reality. You are being over sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Ironically this thread is completely content-free and would probably be locked by now if some other guy posted it which kinda proves Riku's point.
Well, ye-e-e-s.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilKaos
That's why we should hang a few (dozens) of them; corpses of their brethren should keep them away.
great idea! ill get the nails!Quote:
Originally Posted by LordDemonMan
Of course not, at school I work and try my best, I'm not a 'Straight' A student, I do get As for important subjects and the ones I actually enjoy, so gtfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
---------- Post added at 09:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------
make me 07'Quote:
Originally Posted by Fulzo
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Originally Posted by Riku
jesus.
Oh boy, here it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
I guess next goes the Godwin's law.
-.-Quote:
Originally Posted by LilKaos
christ.
Okay I'll stop now, just don't go denying normal users would of gotten flamed for posting that.
i didnt say anything like that.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
Wasn't directed at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilKaos
i think you should retire from this section for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
Really? They don't match the events?Quote:
Originally Posted by troublemaker1111
Savage wrote:
Why would n00bs get bashed? I was reporting a bug, that wouldn't get anyone bashed. So what else could there be?Quote:
I remember when n00bs used to post stuff like this, they'd get bashed.
It was clear he skipped over half my post and just read that I was complaining about the ads and that they should be removed, which obviously wasn't the case to anyone who read my post.
Riku wrote:
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As a reply to Savage: Just proves how biased some Admins/Mods are.
Again, why would a staff member be biased and why would a user reporting a bug get flamed?Quote:
If this were a normal user, comments would be like;
Gtfo
Deal with it.
No ads no ragezone
Fark off newb
stfu your not important because you have less then 4k posts.
On top of all of this I also got a visitor message from Shawn giving me shit for my reply.
I don't quite see how people like that are reading my posts, do they just fail to notice the first sentence I wrote?
It seems like people have been jumping on the bandwagon of the supposed special treatment people like myself are getting, I post a bug and I got 2 idiots claiming special treatment and another 2 who think they are right.
By all means if you think I received special treatment in that thread then go take it up with MentaL.
As for this thread, how is it content free, I'm discussing the idiotic nature of some of our members lately. We tend to have these every couple of months.
I like how you skipped the part where summarized your actions. I'm assuming you agree with them now that you actually read what I wrote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
Btw to both you and Fulzo... seriously flaming with registration dates?
Its a thing Fulzo does.
Who's that guy anyway and why is his name in several peoples signature?
This is probably the most pathetic thing I have ever seen.
Staff are biased and that's just how this forum works. If they see a user who they haven't seen around posting that same thread, they would respond differently and that's just how people work. If they know of someone, and like someone, they will treat them differently. Don't see how you had to make a big deal about it Gohan because all this thread is going to be is everyone agreeing with you and only a minority like troublemaker or jMerlin disagreeing.
This guy is the first person to make sense since this thread opened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie
Disagreeing about what? Poor moderation and classism going on in RZ? Those issues have been around since its inception. I have an infraction right now because a moronic mod finds that defending myself in response to flames is "being a dickhead." Welcome to illogical moderation, it leads to corruption and classism, and this kind of bullshit. When 1000 noobies cry out that the ads that change the window.location are too much, they get told to STFU. When our precious Gohan says it, everyone perks up and agrees.
Stop being hypocritical fucks and there won't be any problems, k?
I'll throw in my thoughts.
There is a difference with complaining about the advertisements (which the majority do) and between highlighting an issue where you can't even login due to a problem with them.
This reminds me of the Amazon forward thing aswell, no-one flamed those topics because it was an actual issue.
If you can't understand that there isn't really a bias here then you really need to take a step back. You should kinda know by now I'm not exactly bias towards anyone and I don't see an issue with the thread.
Crash
You are completely missing the point, kinda like those other guys did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie
Seriously do you not read anything?
I report a bug and they start talking about special treatment. How do you not get this? Are you really as stupid as they are.
Also did you ever considered that there is a difference between special treatment and just different treatment? If a user with 1 post spams their link to their website they will probably get banned, if someone with 10 posts does it they will get a infraction, does that mean the guy with 10 posts gets special treatment?
Fact is sometimes members that been around for over a year get banned and people get all upset about it, I remember when Ramathru got banned for posting porn pics etc, we had quite a few members pissed off about the ban, even though the ban was not permanent (or atleast not the first time) and he did it again. A new member would have received a perm ban instantly without a second thought.
If a random guy walks upto you and starts shouting at you, what will you do? Tell him to fuck off? If a good friend comes upto you shouting at you? Will you still tell him to fuck off or try to find out what's wrong?
Those are not cases of special treatment, however you don't treat a new member the same way as a old member, not because they are allowed to do it, but because you know them and you know it not be normal. Or if it is normal, you atleast know why and all that. You can't expect mods to invest just as much time as someone that just registered, been around for a year, or 3 years or 5+ years. It's just not the way it works.
But like I said, it's not special treatment, special treatment would be to go berserk on someone, the one going crazy is allowed to do so and the other person gets banned or whatever.
If you would want to compare this to my topic, I reported a bug to MentaL, a mod obviously didn't read my post and made a remark about, I'm well in my right to call him on it, I expect regular users to atleast read what they are replying to, but I expect it even more from a mod who should know better.
If I were to be called on calling that mod on what he said, then it would actually mean that mod would get special treatment, but neither of us is getting any special treatment. Aka your logic fails.
As to why I made a thread about this, because it's because of dumbasses like yourself that have been spamming these forums and screaming 'special treatment' over and over again. Tbh I wouldn't mind some special treatment right now from a mod and have you all banned, would definitely clean the place up.
Funny, because I got a 2pt infraction for defending myself to unwarranted, unfounded, and completely incorrect flame.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
What is that bullshit about you claiming you don't get special treatment?
And I really hate to burst your bubble once again for failing to look up a definition:
What's ordinary or usual around here is to get infracted, threads locked, and flamed for certain things. Yet when those determined to be "special" do them, a completely different outcome happens, like anyone who disagrees with them gets infracted (LOL! Reverse moderation in action).Code:Special - distinguished or different from what is ordinary or usual: a special occasion; to fix something special.
You made a post complaining about the ads. Let's be specific, I've complained that window.location ads are INCREDIBLY invasive and lead to problems. You say "I can't login because my page changes." Welcome to the definition of window.location modification, please, while you're learning that what I say is almost always correct, pick up a book on javascript in web browsers.
You've made numerous posts (a quick search from all posts by GohanSSJ reveals enough to get most people banned) that explicitly initiate a flame or argument within the past week. Let alone since you've been here. To my knowledge you're like an ignorant fuck who fails to learn anything or listen to anyone who may know more than them walking around with a baseball bat beating people with a bubble of protection around you with a wake of banned and damaged accounts behind you. This isn't particularly difficult to see.
So yes, by merit of "special" -- your treatment is special. But also by merit of your own semi-retarded definition of "special treatment," your treatment is also special.
/thread, now go do something useful.
Emphasis to 'like' given to note it's not a direct insult rather an observation on stupid behavior that is a direct choice being made.
Nobody mentioned "special" treatement in that thread. Savage just said that "n00bs" who post topics like that get told to deal with it or that it's their fault... or something along those lines. He still stayed on topic. Riku seen that Savage had said this and seen his chance to let out what everyone already knows - moderators or important people do get treated differently because that's just how people work like i mentioned. The point is, why do you care? MentaL replied to you. Oh, and you go straight to insulting yet again, because you can't handle anyone disputing what you say. Also, i didn't say they got "special" treatment so how did my logic fail? What i said is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Your point on me supposedly spamming is a failed logic aswell because i hardly post. I post maybe a couple of times a month here, and that's usually only when i need help with something hardware wise - so yes, it appears your logic fails.
This thread is just you looking for people to molest your ego and agree with you. If you're going to be an ass to me, i'll be an ass to you.
I like how everyone see moderators as the people who choose how people of this forum get treated, I'm pretty sure if you're annoying you're annoying and if you're a fucktard then you're a fucktard.. etc, You're all pussies to the man.. if you don't like it then do something about it. NOT WINGE THANKS
but besides that I'm above all of you.. you must first type a special pray before speaking to me "Kurt is the greatest"
The first time I really noticed you you were trying to handle MentaL like a idiot. Ever considered that's why you are on peoples shitlist? Don't you think it's normal that when you act in a extremely disrespectful way to the owner of this place that it would cause mods to keep you on a short leash?Quote:
Originally Posted by jMerliN
The idea behind it was the same, especially since this crying has been going on for a while.Quote:
Nobody mentioned "special" treatement in that thread. Savage just said that "n00bs" who post topics like that get told to deal with it or that it's their fault... or something along those lines. He still stayed on topic.
Neither of their messages had any relevance in that thread and were only posted to cry about special treatment yet again.Quote:
Riku seen that Savage had said this and seen his chance to let out what everyone already knows - moderators or important people do get treated differently because that's just how people work like i mentioned.
When people cry I get special treatment because I don't get flamed while reporting a bug, then yes I will call them idiots, because that's what they are. Anyone who fails to understand that logic is also a idiot. Several of you are ignoring the fact that they made useless comments only to cry, because really, what was the purpose of those comments in that thread?Quote:
Oh, and you go straight to insulting yet again, because you can't handle anyone disputing what you say.
You were talking about biased crap and different treatments, even though that was not the case, hence you fail for bringing it up.Quote:
Also, i didn't say they got "special" treatment so how did my logic fail? What i said is true.
You're just pissed because I still call you a Habboon.Quote:
This thread is just you looking for people to molest your ego and agree with you. If you're going to be an ass to me, i'll be an ass to you.
As for people agreeing with me, anyone that knows me even a tiny bit knows I really don't care either way and people who just agree with me for the sake of it are nearly just as bad as people like yourself who just disagrees because you are pissed at the world.
Like I said, the consensus right now is that some people get special treatment, I personally would like to invite you to post actual proof, and I don't mean jmerlins crap that he caused himself, I'm talking about people that did not basicly call the owner a idiot and actually was treated unfairly.
Also by all means post stuff where others received special treatment, I mean sure I call people idiots from time to time, but can you really say it's not true? Is it not idiotic to start about this kind of stuff when someone is reporting a bug? Because in my book that's just really stupid, hence the thread title.
@CrashOveride, you do realize you just 'proved' to them that you give out special treatment by agreeing with regarding the content in that thread. You should have disagreed with me and infracted me for reporting a bug, that way the 'outlawz' or 'e-thugs' or 'guyswithextremelytinypenisses' wouldn't see you as 1 of them now.
Okay, yeah I agree with you about the cant login to ragezone because of all the ads thing, but I'm just saying that even if it were another 'not as well known user' it would of been handled ALOT differently. Sorry for the flaming?
-Daniel
Well that's exactly what the first thread was about, and i still have absolutely no idea how it got to this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOveride
No it wouldn't have, look at the various Amazon forward threads by random users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riku
It is a real issue and not just someone bitching about the advertisements, there is a difference there.
It's about the content of the posts not the actual user posting it.
If you see people b*tching at the user despite it being a real issue then report it and I'll deal with them regardless of who they are.
Crash
Hey, I'll admit it. I get special treatment but that's because I am DTB. Everybody loves me.
It's true people, DTB does get special treatment. I mean when I rape his ass I use a condom so not to spread my diseases to him.
@Riku, Why would it have been handled different? I can tell you that if someone was reporting a bug and people would flame, those flamers would get infracted for doing so.
Even if they would be about the ads regardless of the bug, if someone makes valid points and try to think of ways so that MentaL wouldn't loose any money because of it, then it would be fine. The only way people are gonna get flamed is if they just bitch and moan without offering alternatives or whatever.
I believe savage was talking about those threads where people were complaining about advertisements on the desktop while this was a completely valid bug
Ricku, you can't talk shit because you're an Elite Subscriber.
DJ Inofbus, lol.
I only gave you shit because I've noticed lately you've been a hell of a lot more aggressive. From what I read regarding the post Savage made, I didn't see anything wrong with it. I'm sure you can agree as well that Legends always have and always will have a better response from the community when posting a thread, regardless of the topic. I'm not saying the staff would be the ones to show favoritism either. I'm merely stating the community overall would be less likely to flame a legend, than they would to flame an ordinary member. I believe that was the point Riku and Savage was making, and that is why I gave you shit. I believe you took it the wrong way, and you creating this thread got me concerned you were having personal issues similar to Rish when he suddenly became grouchy for no apparent reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
I didn't intend to have my visitor post to you seem as though I was scolding you. I was merely trying to see if you were ok and what the deal was in regards to why you seem to be more uptight lately. I fully read every response, I always do. So again, what's going on? PM me if you don't want to discuss it here.
P.S. Sorry Rish for mentioning the personal issues thing. Figured maybe he'd understand better if I used your scenario. Don't take offense to it :)
I'm not talking shit, I'm standing up for those 'Lower ranked members' Paying $10 doesn't make me any higher or lower in the community, you can't talk shit because your an Alpha. /ThreadQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
Nice post Shawn.
I have yet so find anyone who has -EVER- offended me, so don't worry :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Shawn
But lets face it, mods aren't lenient on Legends because they are older members or because they know the rules. They go easy on us because we were hand-picked for this rank by Dan or Lee, and infracting someone who they vouched for would be like second-guessing their decision.
Not to mention that almost all of us already have a comprehensive list of infractions and bans, it would be futile to even bother infracting us because it wouldn't mean anything to us.
Rishwin speaks the truth, no one has been banned from this forum more than I. Fact.
My bad ;|Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
http://forum.ragezone.com/f83/spread-word-714365/
Catchin up :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Haha long way to go my friend, I've had over 100 bans. Easily.
You were trying see if I was ok? First of all I got friends for that, second why would you do that in public? Seriously, think about that for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn
Yes Legends do get more replies then pretty much everyone else and most people wouldn't mess with us for the simple fact that we got a lot of friends here and plenty of followers who follow us for the simple fact that they think we can help raise their status (which frankly we could, though in my case this would only help them lower their status, preferably to banned since I don't like asskissers).
However this is not special treatment. If anything it's people like yourself who keep talking about how we get treated different, that raises our status that people actually begin to think we get special treatment.
So yes the community treats us different, as they treat you different aswell, this however doesn't mean that while a normal member would get flamed for posting a bug and a Legend doesn't. Now it might be a valid point if I just complained about all the ads and stuff, sure most people wouldn't flame me for it, they might even agree with me believing that if a Legend says it they are safe from getting flamed themselves, however this was not the case, not to mention that I would never do that, if I had a big issue with how MentaL ran this site then I would just talk to him personally and not write this in the open. I've got a better understanding of how hard he fought for this site all these years then most here and I've always respected the fact the he kept this site going even when it was really hard for him to keep it open.
So really, there was no point for them to make, it was (and btw still is...) a bug report, I find it quite pathetic that a increasing group of people come in here assuming all sorts of things about myself and my fellow Legends, but also the higher up mods here (seeing as they moderate this section), all people who have and still are involved of the running of this site, spending countless hours making it what it is today. This doesn't mean you need to respect us or anything like that, but not giving both the ex-staff members and current staff members shit for supposed special treatment would go a long way to not be seen as a dick by both of those groups, which might also help you not to get infracted as much by mods who are annoyed of peoples attitude towards them.
Pff, the only reason you got more bans on your name then I do, is because of me. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by DonTonberry
Btw getting a strong Denny Crane vibe from you lately. ;)
EDIT: Just read the other thread
No one is from '01, well Dan is I believe since that's when he created the domain, but it wasn't until half '02 that the first server went up, before that it was all wrestling and I know you didn't join that site. ;)Quote:
Why the fuck has a year got to do with anything? I'm from '01 so I'd win in all those types of ePenis talks.
Right, this is ridiculous. Somebody needs to put an end to this. You've easily written over 2000 words about this by now. I mean, are you insane? What the hell is wrong with you? Between this, the 'would you' thread and the Smallville thread I honestly think there are some mental health issues at work here. You seem to get extremely upset over the most minor, insignificant things. When somebody disagrees with you, even politely, we can expect a multi-page thread of you ranting about some asinine non-issue that nobody but you could possibly give a fuck about. None of this matters, Gohan. None of it. Calm the fuck down and move on.
IIRC, it was bought with intention of being a wrestling website (never actually made - 1, 2) -> Official RZ Mir guild forum -> Ragezone Mir Server -> Ragezone now.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanSSJ
Within that there was the previous invision(?) type forum then the move to vBulletin. (Probably "server -> dev" stage)
Think the guild website was possibly 01 though.
Crash
Not a guild site. I would have remembered a RZ guild seeing as we played on the same server.
The forum before this one was a phpBB2 forum, I was a moderator on that before I came a administrator on the vB forums, which was like november 2002, in february we lost the server files, our last back up (which I still have) was from like january, which Dan decided not to use due to how old it was (a month might not seem much, but on a 3 month old forum it's quite a lot :P)
IIRC Dan started experimenting with files in like april 2002, in like July the first real server went up, a month later Dan started spamming the LoM forums with his website address.
I believe Joe joined RZ around July/August, I myself joined in September, hence knowing the history of this website quite well. ;)
It was about 2001, because it was when I moved schools. So it was either late-ish 2001 or very early 2002. Also, we had PHP-BB forums for quite a while, then the forums went down so it was hosted by some members of the community on one of these shitty free forum sites for about 2-3 months before MentaL returned, and it was PHP-BB for a little while after that aswell.
Considering this vBulletin site went up early 2003, I'm edging it was 2001 I joined. That makes me a 10 year veteran!
Like I said, no one joined in 2001, absolutely no one. And the first few months of 2002 there was no server at all, it wasn't until later that there was a actual server.
So yeah, you can't be from 2001, just not possible, nor is early 2002.
Well fuck me for actually trying to help out, and prevent things from getting worse like the situation I already stated as an example. Regardless of you "having friends for that", it doesn't mean other people can't be genuinely concerned. If it was public, I would have pretended to be you and made a thread about it. You've pretty much lost all of my respect now. I can see why people view you as arrogant. Someone takes the initiative to see if things are alright and you treat them as if they were a moron. Especially after you agreed with what the hell I was saying, about how Legends are less likely to be flamed, which again was my whole point. You talk about how other people don't read your full post, but it's clear you did the same, otherwise you would see you pretty much repeated exactly what I said, then have the nerve to act like I'm stupid for saying it. If you had taken the time to read the post, you would see that was the point Riku and Savage was making. Yes, ordinary members have been flamed in the past for posting bugs, so your logic for that goes out the window. Regardless of staff handling the flames or not, ordinary members have been flamed, where as you didn't (most likely due to your Legend status). Now, you sit there and tell me, with a clear open mind how Savage/Riku was wrong in what he said? That is what they were referring to, and that is what I was trying to get you to understand. But because it somehow pissed you off (just like almost every post that even slightly contradicts yours lately it seems), you felt the need to make this thread to bash them, only further proving their point. You'd think as a former staff member, you would know better but it seems not.
Right, bit overdue to lock this. OF course mods and myself are biased. If you are new here and you come prancing out like the lord itself then people are going to respond to you in a negative manner. Gohan has been here for a long time and I've had the pleasure of meeting him and therefore I'll always cut slack to people who I feel are an essential part of this community but he has still been banned for being an ass.
Always good to talk about ragezone history... yesterday made me realise how much as a person I've grown over the years and well that is that. As onto the topic of bugs, this has already been addressed in this thread so if you feel the need to post about this again then maybe inbox each other.
cheers.