GameSite template

I was making a gaming site template, But i dont even know why i was making it (just bored), So im just guna post it here. This is not finished, But part of the template i started i finished, Mostly small parts.

I was planning to make a real welcome page but i cba with this, I also have not paid any attention to hyper links, font styles ect. but i have changed hyper links for the menu. I dont think i put the css in the style sheet either o.0

If you wana finish this for yourself, Go ahead, Wana re-release go ahead but please give credits but tbh its nothing special just had nothing to do so do w.e u want idk. Just would hate to have completely wasted my time, Even if i get 1 download im happy.

http://viroware.com/downloads/templates/002.png
WARRNING: Rounded css tested and works in firefox and chrome, But not IE (n)

Live Demo: http://viroware.com/downloads/templates/002/
Download: http://viroware.com/downloads/templates/002.zip

Logo Font: http://www.dafont.com/aircruiser.font

you have lot to learn, semanticaly and seo-wise it's done extremely poorly

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Originally Posted by foxx

you have lot to learn, semanticaly and seo-wise it's done extremely poorly

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And you need to learn to read threads before posting.

EDIT: Also why do i need to make it seo when its a template and not a website?

nice n simple

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Originally Posted by viroware

And you need to learn to read threads before posting.

EDIT: Also why do i need to make it seo when its a template and not a website?

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Because there is SEO and SEO.

First one means searching for the right keywords, looking at competition, building backlinks, adding page to catalogues, eventually setting the right PPC campaigns.

The latter is coding the site right, in your example it would mean using <ul> for menu, putting the main content(#content), before the secondary content(#sidebar) in DOM, using <br/> to break only texts in paragraphs, rather than using it for designing purposes, putting css in a separete files, this all goes in hand with proper semantics and coding the site well.

And then again, I was just trying to help, and there is not a single word in the OP that I shouldn't post critique on how you code(this is coders paradise if you haven't noticed, by the way, not the portfolio), so either take my advices and learn from them, or fuck off and don't respond at all, but don't go all defensive.

Why you so mad? lol... (child abuse?)

You still have not read the thread -.-, And this is not something i would put in a portfolio so why post it in the portfolio section. If you would of read the thread you wouldn't of made yourself look like such a fool...

Just because you dont understand i try my best to make it clearer "I was bored so i just opened Dreamweaver but iv got no use for this, So i stopped and instead of just deleting it i posted it here.

Tbh i dont give a fuck what your saying, Your not in the position to tell me how to do things. I released this for anyone who wanted to finish it or use it. Get that? Finish it.

Also i have not used <br />(for design), And if i did its because of Dreamweaver, Do i look stupid? Also i could use <ul> what prob more reasonable to use but guess what? I didn't. Oh no ! end of the world !

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Why you so mad? lol... (child abuse?)

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You see, you are getting defensive again, even after I gave you free lessons on how to code web properly. No need to use childish insults, really.

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You still have not read the thread -.-, And this is not something i would put in a portfolio so why post it in the portfolio section. If you would of read the thread you wouldn't of made yourself look like such a fool...

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I have, third time now, it says you've coded it, the base structure of it at least, you didn't bother with styling links, I get that, but the very base structure of it sucks ass, and so does your coding skills. And that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?

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Originally Posted by viroware

Just because you dont understand i try my best to make it clearer "I was bored so i just opened Dreamweaver but iv got no use for this, So i stopped and instead of just deleting it i posted it here.

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Like I care whether you used dreamweaver, notepad or frontpage, it's not the tools that makes a good code, it's the coder himself. And you suck as a coder, you have a lot to learn. And that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?

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Originally Posted by viroware

Tbh i dont give a fuck what your saying, Your not in the position to tell me how to do things. I released this for anyone who wanted to finish it or use it. Get that? Finish it.

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I'm very much in that position, because I unlike you know how to code. You released it for people to finish it, that's great, but there is difference between final touches(aka. styling those links), and completely rewritting the very base of it, because yours sucks and is not done right. You released something that has crappy code, and that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?

If you didn't want anyone to comment on your crappy code, you should have released it in the portfolio for people to code it themselves properly. Because the only thing that's somewhat useable on your release, is just the design itself.

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Originally Posted by viroware

Also i have not used <br />(for design), And if i did its because of Dreamweaver, Do i look stupid? Also i could use <ul> what prob more reasonable to use but guess what? I didn't. Oh no ! end of the world !

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You did, in the footer.

And no, it's not the end of world, it's fine, everyone has to start somewhere, but using <div> for menu item is about as reasonable as using <tbody>. But dude, with your attitude, you won't make it far.

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Also there's no need to make excuses, such as that you made it in hurry or that you didn't finish it,

I've checked your other sites, like

• ViroWare
• Ashley Meah

they are coded just as poorly as this one..


I'm telling you again man, start learning from what I'm telling you, rather than getting childish and defensive. You see, I love proving kids on the internet wrong, I can go on with telling you how and why you suck forever.

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Originally Posted by foxx

You see, you are getting defensive again, even after I gave you free lessons on how to code web properly. No need to use childish insults, really.


I have, third time now, it says you've coded it, the base structure of it at least, you didn't bother with styling links, I get that, but the very base structure of it sucks ass, and so does your coding skills. And that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?


Like I care whether you used dreamweaver, notepad or frontpage, it's not the tools that makes a good code, it's the coder himself. And you suck as a coder, you have a lot to learn. And that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?



I'm very much in that position, because I unlike you know how to code. You released it for people to finish it, that's great, but there is difference between final touches(aka. styling those links), and completely rewritting the very base of it, because yours sucks and is not done right. You released something that has crappy code, and that's why I wrote what I wrote, you have a lot to learn, get it? Starting to see the connection?

If you didn't want anyone to comment on your crappy code, you should have released it in the portfolio for people to code it themselves properly. Because the only thing that's somewhat useable on your release, is just the design itself.


You did, in the footer.

And no, it's not the end of world, it's fine, everyone has to start somewhere, but using <div> for menu item is about as reasonable as using <tbody>. But dude, with your attitude, you won't make it far.

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Also there's no need to make excuses, such as that you made it in hurry or that you didn't finish it,

I've checked your other sites, like

• ViroWare
• Ashley Meah

they are coded just as poorly as this one..


I'm telling you again man, start learning from what I'm telling you, rather than getting childish and defensive. You see, I love proving kids on the internet wrong, I can go on with telling you how and why you suck forever.

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Who is being childish? Lol? Also i already know html & css get used to that i dont need lessions.

And wont get far? Ok you think that... Just remember this, im not the kid with no life on the web who just flame, Instead of saying i suck tell me how i suck? What because i use html in a different way lol.

Also please, keep on anything you point out i can revise on, So far you have just talked a lot of shit...

Also you say "I'm very much in that position, because I unlike you know how to code.". No your not, You proved that point when you started raging for no reason its not my fault your dad rapes you, Go speck to a professional.

When you come back then you can say sorry for acting like a noob and then we can have a nice friendly chat, In-till you start acting more mature just don't post.

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Originally Posted by viroware

Also i already know html & css get used to that i dont need lessions.

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Look, you don't, end of story. I've seen your code on your sites, you don't know how to code properly.

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Originally Posted by viroware

Just remember this, im not the kid with no life on the web who just flame,

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I'm not flaming you, I'm telling you facts. And trying to teach you. And I'm not a kid either, I'm actually quite few years past the teen age, working a fulltime job as a programmer and coder, and the only reason why I'm sitting here and debating with you is that I'm still at work, still working at this site and after 10 hours of doing so, I need a little distraction. Such as proving you wrong.

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Instead of saying i suck tell me how i suck?

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I already did lol, couple of times, primary here

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Because there is SEO and SEO.

First one means searching for the right keywords, looking at competition, building backlinks, adding page to catalogues, eventually setting the right PPC campaigns.

The latter is coding the site right, in your example it would mean using <ul> for menu, putting the main content(#content), before the secondary content(#sidebar) in DOM, using <br/> to break only texts in paragraphs, rather than using it for designing purposes, putting css in a separete files, this all goes in hand with proper semantics and coding the site well.

And then again, I was just trying to help, and there is not a single word in the OP that I shouldn't post critique on how you code(this is coders paradise if you haven't noticed, by the way, not the portfolio), so either take my advices and learn from them, or fuck off and don't respond at all, but don't go all defensive.

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You have some sort of selective reading problems?

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What because i use html in a different way lol.

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Lesson #2. There is no different way, there is the RIGHT and PROPER W3 way, and there are other BAD and WRONG ways, you are using one of those bad ones.

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Also please, keep on anything you point out i can revise on, So far you have just talked a lot of shit...

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How was any of what I said bullshit, if I may ask?

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Also you say "I'm very much in that position, because I unlike you know how to code.". No your not, You proved that point when you started raging for no reason its not my fault your dad rapes you, Go speck to a professional.

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You see, I work at F13.
I have done about hundred of sites already, few of the latests would be

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• Joudova hra | Bezpečně na motorce s Mírou Lysím
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• SugarBeat - girls action movie!!
• Aldente - trattoria italiana | Italská restaurace Praha
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• Prestigious Golf tour 2011 | PGT
• TV stav - Stavební a investorské noviny
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• Portrétní, dětské a glamour fotografie | slevy Karlovy Vary, Sokolov, Cheb - Slevbanka
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[/showoff]
You see, experience is the reason why I'm able to tell you your code sucks, and I'm very much in position to teach you how to do it right. Besides, I'm not raging a little bit, I'm still trying to patiently persuade you to understanding and getting you to learn from your mistakes.



and dude, damn, you are fifteen.. I know you are in puberty and that you feel like you know everything, but the sooner you grow up from it, the better for you..

viro, give up. You post something here, expect criticism!

foxx knows what he's talking about. And saying things like "child abuse?" will not make you look any wiser. grow a pair and take the advice. use it, even.

omg you have no life... Dude get the fuck over it i used div tags for menu, ur acting like it the end of the world. I know html & css and if you cant see that your life is a lie...

Yes im 15 and i make mistakes and i admit mistakes, When i need help i say i ask for help so if i make a template is it that hard to see i dont need help? Otherwise i would be posting in a help section.

Also each of those links are simple nothing special so what is your point...? Im not the best at design but i do know html + css 100% dont believe it then fuck off coz tbh idk if u believe me or not it does not effect me.

And all you have been doing is raging... So just fuck off or be mature ur like them lil kids on xbox live.

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Originally Posted by EliteGM

viro, give up. You post something here, expect criticism!

foxx knows what he's talking about. And saying things like "child abuse?" will not make you look any wiser. grow a pair and take the advice. use it, even.

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He clearly doesn't, I dont mind criticism but when he saying i dont know html and css hes got problems i clearly do look at the template its html & css.

And its the truth otherwise why is he so angry? And i wont take any advice from him he is just one of those flamers aint my fault hes got problems.

Actually, Read the rules...

Commenting on a showcase:
Showcase is for constructive critizism. In other words, you may post that you dislike certain aspects of a showcase, but only if you also include your opinion on how it could be better! Saying only something like "this sucks!" will get you warned or even banned! If you feel your post might be taken as offensive, do not post.

He said this sucks and still hasn't gave me a valid reason... I think hes been looking for something wrong since i posted... Still nothing you can find? Or you just guna start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

Good one ;)
foxx gave you proper CnC in his second post, to which you decided to get all agressive.
-you- are the one that came out of the blue with child abuse? c'mon, really?

He's posted tons of reasons, you just choose to ignore advice from a better coder. your loss

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Originally Posted by viroware

omg you have no life... Dude get the fuck over it i used div tags for menu, ur acting like it the end of the world. I know html & css and if you cant see that your life is a lie...start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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You don't else you

1. wouldn't be using div for menu items
2. wouldn't be using multiple IDs(there's only ONE allowed in DOM), now I'm talking about #menu_item and #sidebar_item
3. wouldn't be using classes(ids) on every single child element(talking about #menu_item and #sidebar_item again), but you'd rather do "#sidebar div" in css
4. wouldn't add secondary content(#sidebar), before the main content (#content) but rather margin-left the #sidebar
5. wouldn't use padding and margin on the element that has width and height set, because I'd know I will make mess in IE, but rather use matrioshka
6. would use H1 instead of H2 for the obvious reasons
7. you'd rather use margin 0px auto; for logo than trying to center it manually(it's not even centered by the way)
8. you'd rather use shorthand css because it's more efficient
9. you'd know that the way you made menu is stupid, because actually link is only at the text, not at the whole thing, making it confusing
10. you wouldn't use :hover on DIV because you'd know it won't work in IE
11. you'd make logo as an anchor with background image, because you'd know people actually click on logo to get to index(that's some A/B testing for you)

hell, there is so few lines of code yet it's full of errors, non standart compilant html and bad coding

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Yes im 15 and i make mistakes and i admit mistakes, When i need help i say i ask for help so if i make a template is it that hard to see i dont need help? Otherwise i would be posting in a help section. start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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Yes, you are 15, and you NEVER admit mistakes, this thread is a huge evidence of so.

I've told, my fulltime job is programmer and coder, I'm doing it for good 5 years now, I've done hunderds of websites, some of them priced around $20 000, I've shown you some of my latest references. How can you still say I should start talking about how much experience I have lol.

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Also each of those links are simple nothing special so what is your point...? Im not the best at design but i do know html + css 100% dont believe it then fuck off coz tbh idk if u believe me or not it does not effect me. start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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Again... I've told, my fulltime job is programmer and coder, I'm doing it for good 5 years now, I've done hunderds of websites, some of them priced around $20 000, I've shown you some of my latest references. How can you still say I should start talking about how much experience I have lol.

And each of those websites is something very very special, with thousands of lines of css, hundereds of lines of html and css, and is something you won't be able to do for good few years. Good tens of years if you continue with this attitude.

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And all you have been doing is raging... So just fuck off or be mature ur like them lil kids on xbox live.start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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Again and again... I've told, my fulltime job is programmer and coder, I'm doing it for good 5 years now, I've done hunderds of websites, some of them priced around $20 000, I've shown you some of my latest references. How can you still say I should start talking about how much experience I have lol.

The only one who seems to be raging because his teenage ego got hurt is you, I'm still trying to patiently help you.


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He clearly doesn't, I dont mind criticism but when he saying i dont know html and css hes got problems i clearly do look at the template its html & css.start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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Again and again and again... I've told, my fulltime job is programmer and coder, I'm doing it for good 5 years now, I've done hunderds of websites, some of them priced around $20 000, I've shown you some of my latest references. How can you still say I should start talking about how much experience I have lol.

yeah, it is html and css, and you might know, you might know 10% of it, but hardly 100%, that's why I'm saying you don't know how to code html and css properly, and that's the reason why your code sucks, you are just too stuborn(or stupid) to admit it.

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And its the truth otherwise why is he so angry? And i wont take any advice from him he is just one of those flamers aint my fault hes got problems.start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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Again and again and again and again... I've told, my fulltime job is programmer and coder, I'm doing it for good 5 years now, I've done hunderds of websites, some of them priced around $20 000, I've shown you some of my latest references. How can you still say I should start talking about how much experience I have lol.

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He said this sucks and still hasn't gave me a valid reason... I think hes been looking for something wrong since i posted... Still nothing you can find? Or you just guna start saying about how much experience you have and then just say i suck agian?

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No, I told quite a few valid reason.
Now I've added some to this post(the first quote), seriously how many mistake do you want me to squeeze of thoe FEW lines of your code before you admit you suck and start learning the proper way lol.

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I'm still calm and waiting for you to give up and finally admit you are doing it wrong, basically I've told you how to do lots of things right already, one day you'll maybe come back to this thread, re-read my posts and start coding properly..
thinking "what a faggot I was"..

Im guessing you raging agian but like i said idk what you have to say, have a nice day and now srsly go away...

I see no raging just a professional offering advice.

And how is it "professional" to say i suck and i dont know html or css and telling me to fuck off -.-

Looks really nice and clean, but I don't like the colors all that much.

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Looks really nice and clean, but I don't like the colors all that much.

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Thanks for the feedback.

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Im guessing you raging agian but like i said idk what you have to say, have a nice day and now srsly go away...

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I've given you everything you asked me for in your previous post, you wanted me to talk about my experience, I did. You wanted me to tell you what was wrong with your code I, repetitively and extensively, did so. What else do you want me to do before you admit your code sucks and that you are deeply wrong and start learning instead?

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And how is it "professional" to say i suck and i dont know html or css and telling me to fuck off -.-

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You have problems with selective reading again.

You do not know html and css, I've proven this to you in every single of my posts.

And I did never tell you to fuck off, I told you "so either take my advices and learn from them, or fuck off and don't respond at all, but don't go all defensive.", nor did I tell you you suck, I told you your code sucks.

You chose to neiher take my advice nor fuck off, you chose to go all defensive and argue with me instead, as I predicted lol.





Sucks when even admin and others tells you are wrong, doesn't it? Starting to realize you are wrong yet?

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I've given you everything you asked me for in your previous post, you wanted me to talk about my experience, I did. You wanted me to tell you what was wrong with your code I, repetitively and extensively, did so. What else do you want me to do before you admit your code sucks and that you are deeply wrong and start learning instead?



You have problems with selective reading again.

You do not know html and css, I've proven this to you in every single of my posts.

And I did never tell you to fuck off, I told you "so either take my advices and learn from them, or fuck off and don't respond at all, but don't go all defensive.", nor did I tell you you suck, I told you your code sucks.

You chose to neiher take my advice nor fuck off, you chose to go all defensive and argue with me instead, as I predicted lol.





Sucks when even admin and others tells you are wrong, doesn't it? Starting to realize you are wrong yet?

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Selective reading? No im busy, + i dnt need to explain myself to you so idk tbh, And im not wrong. Html + css is simple...

Also im not a reader, so im only reading what stands out if you got time to waste good for you, I have a life.

Also still waiting... How do i not know html & css but still made a template that displays correctly?

http://retard.foxx.f13.cz/myfu.png

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http://retard.foxx.f13.cz/myfu.png

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Yea yea sure why u care so much and wont just leave me alone...

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Selective reading? No im busy, + i dnt need to explain myself to you so idk tbh, And im not wrong. Html + css is simple...

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If not to me how about to 115 people that have already read this thread, and how about to your future clients?

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Also im not a reader, so im only reading what stands out if you got time to waste good for you, I have a life.

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Nah, you are just ignoring facts.

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Also still waiting... How do i not know html & css but still made a template that displays correctly?

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Yeah, corretly, but differently in every browser as you are not following standards nor using css resets, it's not sematically right, it's not seo-wise right, there's not a single thing right about it, I have explained you in details what exactly. Every second idiot could make this, but unlike you, wouldn't claim he knows html and css.

Allright, enough.
Edit: Correction, it's already a flame thread, and no1 has learned from it, even though I was waiting and hoping that the thread-started would, it just seems it's a endless flamewar.
#Closed.