mob scaling and fx

Im not sure where i should be posting this since there is no section for forsaken world. Ive been messing around and doing some pet swapping and ive run into a few problems.
Im using a boss model for the pet swap and bosses are, well..huge.

Is there a way to control the size of the model i use for the pet.
It changes sizes depending on the pet i choose to swap out.
I saw something the other day about mob scaling for PWI but forgot
to bookmark the page and i can seem to find it.

Next question is how do you remove the fx(?) from the model. The purple fx and the blue ring is what i want to get rid of aswell as scale her down a bit.

Both of these are accomplished through the .ecm file.
This is near the top and controls size. Some mobs don't have this so it would have to be added.

Spoiler:

NewScale: 0
BoneNum: 1
BoneIndex: 0
BoneSclType: 1
BoneScale: 3.000000, 3.000000, 3.000000

As far as the gfx scroll through the .ecm file and remove the gfx links that you don't want, this is mainly a guess and check, however translating the name of the gfx helps sometimes in determining what is what.

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Originally Posted by crxfreak

Both of these are accomplished through the .ecm file.
This is near the top and controls size. Some mobs don't have this so it would have to be added.

Spoiler:

NewScale: 0
BoneNum: 1
BoneIndex: 0
BoneSclType: 1
BoneScale: 3.000000, 3.000000, 3.000000

As far as the gfx scroll through the .ecm file and remove the gfx links that you don't want, this is mainly a guess and check, however translating the name of the gfx helps sometimes in determining what is what.

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this is what the ecm looks like.

MOXTVersion: 54
SkinModelPath: Models\NPCS\³èÎï\³èÎï_Á´Ä§\³èÎï_Á´Ä§.SMD
AutoUpdata: 1
OrgColor: ffffffff
EmissiveCol: 0
SrcBlend: 5
DestBlend: 6
OuterNum: 8
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
NewScale: 1
BoneNum: 0

would adding those to the ecm work?
BoneIndex: 0
BoneSclType: 1
BoneScale: 3.000000, 3.000000, 3.000000
arent in this ecm

just reread you reply, now my problem is with notepad++ not displaying the chinese text. any idea why that is? they displayed "once" and havent since><

Once you have the ecm open you would go up to the toolbar and select Encoding/Character Sets/Chinese/GB2312(Simplified). On a side note adding what I posted would most likely make the mob huge, I would recommend changing the "3.000000" to "1.000000" for all three instances and work from there.

o.o are there server files for FW

yeah...dont think it works

So this method scales both the model and the skeleton for the model so the animations don't break?

trying again, i noticed i pasted over something that i shouldnt have. This repacking of the models.pck is annoying stuff. Takes almost 20 min><

Guess it doesnt work for FW ecms.
added
NewScale: 0
BoneNum: 1
BoneIndex: 0
BoneSclType: 1
BoneScale: .5.000000, .5.000000, .5.000000
and it had absolutely no effect on the size ingame=(

.5.000000? you can't have 2 decimal points. Try with just one. 0.500000

No good. no matter what i throw in there the size remains the same.
hell i even tried 0.000001 as the last try.

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Originally Posted by NaMeLeS

o.o are there server files for FW

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Daniel/Tony whatever, they have all recent wanmei stuff

trumpdog, if you share the full ecm file, we may be able to find what needs to be changed.

this is driving me nuts.

file encoding broken :D

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Originally Posted by tbnanubis

file encoding broken :D

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fie encoding? no idea what that means but here is an unchanged
ecm.

hmm maybe my editor bugs
ill check if i can help you anyways

did you try to play with

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Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000

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?

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Originally Posted by tbnanubis

hmm maybe my editor bugs
ill check if i can help you anyways

did you try to play with

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Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000
Float: 1.000000

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No i have not. I dont even know what those do.

extracted the configs pck and found raceeuip.ini

inside is

\\人类
[Race1]
PetId = 6348

\\妖怪
[Race2]
PetId = 6350

\\神仙
[Race3]
PetId = 6349

[Weapon]
Prof1 = 391
Prof2 = 383
Prof3 = 182
Prof4 = 371
Prof5 = 377
Prof6 = 204

[PetScale]
4494 = 1.1
4476 = 1.2
4477 = 2
4479 = .8
4480 = 1.8
4481 = 1.3
4482 = 1.4
4484 = 1.2
4485 = 1.25
4487 = 1.25
4491 = 1.1
4492 = 1.5
5029 = 1.1
4495 = 1.45
4502 = 1.4
4511 = 1.2
4512 = 1.15
4517 = 1.1
4519 = 1.3
4523 = 1.3
4526 = 1.5
7178 = 1.8
7179 = 1.2
7180 = 1.2
7185 = 1.3
7192 = 1.65
10293 = 1.35
10297 = 1.35
10394 = 1.45
10395 = 1.35
10397 = 1.1
10401 = 1.3
10402 = 1.2
10404 = 1.15
10405 = 1.4
10423 = 1.25
6407 = 1.45
6408 = 1.25
6409 = 1.26
6410 = 1.45
6411 = 1.45
6412 = 1.25
6414 = 1.65
7165 = 1.15
7170 = 1.2
7171 = 1.3
7992 = 1.25
7425 = 1.2
7426 = 1.1
7427 = 2
7428 = 1.25

im wondering if somethin here controls pet size. Problem is i have no idea what ids are what and if they are actually for the pets.
fwpck doesnt seem to extract the entire configs.pck so even if that ini would effect the size, there is no way for me to repack it.

I only modified the first ecm, but if you wanted to use 1 of the others simply modify them to what the first one is.
Attachment 95819

Is there a way to scale the model and the skeleton/bones or whatever its called to match each another? Or is that not possible?

The raceequip.ini does infact hold the pet scaling....the problem is figuring out what id is for what pet.I randomly changed a few scales and noticed that a few of the pets ingame were alot smaller than normal.

Thankfully the configs pck takes 3 sec to repack.Just gotta try all 53 id#
until i get the right one lol.

And wrong again.Guess its a lost cause.What works in pwi doesnt seem to work for forsaken world.

what this game inside picture ?

try to extract with pwrepack, i'm pretty sure i added fw extraction keys.

ah damn nvm, thought you still have problems unpacking..

for repacking i have to change the code though, to use fw keys for length code encryption.
Tell me when you really need this and provide a configs.pck if pwrepack doesn't work, so i can fix it without downloading the full game again.

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Originally Posted by insteadof

what this game inside picture ?

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Game is Forsaken World

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Originally Posted by tbnanubis

try to extract with pwrepack, i'm pretty sure i added fw extraction keys.

ah damn nvm, thought you still have problems unpacking..

for repacking i have to change the code though, to use fw keys for length code encryption.
Tell me when you really need this and provide a configs.pck if pwrepack doesn't work, so i can fix it without downloading the full game again.

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Ive been using Fwpck. The problem with the extract is the configspck goes from 3mb down to 600kb. When i repack, its size remains 600kb.Im not sure if that matters since all 62 files apear to work correctly and ive had no problems ingame so far.

i was wrong about the size of the configs.pck. The real size is 25mb but when i extract it, its only 635 kb.Fwpck cant be extracting all of its contents.

file was to big to upload through an attachment. MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service

The patch system they use is lazy. All it does is add new files and update the records while old data is there. That is why if you recreate the pcks every now and then their size shrinks.
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i got to resurrect this one



So everyone talks about scaling mobs and npcs but no1 complains about models going through the ground
is it only me? When i scale up any mob or npc it's scaled from the middle of the body(not the bottom of the ground(root)) and that causes legs to get into the ground also names with hitbox are not lifted up.
Is there anything we can change to bring mobs up like change hitbox position or something?


ohh btw if there is no NewScale: 0 inside ecm then i don't add it because it breaks animations and fx of npc/mob, i'm not 100% sure what NewScale is for

edit:
i changed scale of holeen (16349) snice it already have different scales in few ecm files 雪王.ecm
for this mob everything looked fine

i edited few more and those with bonescale already in them scale fine, everything else goes under ground

does it mean that only few mobs/npcs can be correctly scaled that are prepared for it?

reviving this topic cuz you guys didint find the answer:

Thing is:

If you want to scale any mob, you got to check for the

MOXTVERSION of it, not all mobs come with a updated egnough MOXTVERSION to be able active

the re-size command, so you got to

Change the MOXTVersion, and then you r able to add the bone command to it

but then, you got to check the update mox and ur old file, and add a few command lines that change btw those Mox,

then there u go.

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Originally Posted by lvdrake

reviving this topic cuz you guys didint find the answer:

Thing is:

If you want to scale any mob, you got to check for the

MOXTVERSION of it, not all mobs come with a updated egnough MOXTVERSION to be able active

the re-size command, so you got to

Change the MOXTVersion, and then you r able to add the bone command to it

but then, you got to check the update mox and ur old file, and add a few command lines that change btw those Mox,

then there u go.

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Thanx for reply mate. I've been busy for some time now and couldn't research the issue myself.
I got very excited so I have to squeeze some time to test it this week.

Thanx again and have a good day,
Aarran

Edit
So changing motx didn't help to solve my issue. Mobs are still half way in the ground. It seems as they scale from hip joint and not from root joint. BoneIndex is already 0 so I assume hip joint is the first bone. Adding extra bone at the beginning of the skeleton in bon file might solve this problem, but I don't have such skills^^.
http://forum.ragezone.com/attachment...cale_issue.png