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Seems Microsoft is attempting to add total immersion gaming to the XBox 720....
Read that they plan on using the Kinect to determine your place in the game...then projects the world around you in the room...supposedly utilizing your peripheral vision to spot movement of ingame objects...
Sounds awesome to me :)
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I honestly cannot see how they plan to market this - it requires you to be in a room with clear walls, what of the projector, require 3 or 4 for each wall?
etc.
Seems way too much effort to be mainstream... regardless of it being a pretty cool idea.
Maybe two low res projectros and one hd projector with some sort of moving arm to project higher quality to where you look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daedius
Or it could have some sort of lense which refracts the image onto all the walls. The biggest issue tends to be the brightness and res, if you want a decent projector it will cost a fair amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by jM2.me
But yeah, I doubt this will work for most customers. I mean the number of possible configurations for rooms alone is ridiculously large. Kinect doesn't work for many people because their rooms are just too small. This will work for fewer people. But I guess it'll be awesome for people it works for!
Actually Sony developed something similar called xImmersive if I am not wrong. They also have a trailer with it here , so Microsoft can't pattent something that is already made.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrgWH...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ1KaYEBe5U
Seems like a rip off the film Gamer...
And that kinda proves my point. If you have a white room, and the console/computer has exact measurements etc, this would be absolutely amazing. In the real world, it won't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by mucski
Well with lasers you can get EXACT dimensions of rooms and any obstructions within it in seconds....it only needs the total dimensions from where the projector stands to know what to project where..Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
As long as you don't move your console and equipment..it only has to measure it once...you'll just have to "re-calibrate" it if you move it...add a new table...ect ect..
Brb while I go patent a watermelon helmet with laser goggles.
You'll be a millionaire!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daedius
Either way... you have to admit... it does look pretty cool.
Fuck that then, I want to be a billionaire :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Monolith
Microsoft is getting more retarded every day...
All joking aside....if they can somehow equip the 720 with the lasers to measure dimensions....the projectors to splash the walls with video...and make it all work somehow....I think the Microsoft vs. Sony war would end with an epic win from Microsoft...
Just saying :)
Have you ever actually looked into that tech? I was at an AutoCAD seminar focused on architecture and they have the tech you are referring to, to get exact room dimensions quickly (not seconds!). If you think they could put that in a console you are highly mistaken. The cost of them are in the thousands. Line ones alone, without the motor to get the 3D, are in the about £200.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monolith
Unless you are thinking someone from MS would come out to do the scan, which could in theory work, but even then a good enough projector to work on non white walls would still set you back the best part of a grand, let alone needing what 5 for each wall and the ceiling. It just wouldn't be practical.
The tech might technically exist, but the cost would be extreme. And it still wouldn't look good without white walls, with the same distance between each side, and nothing else in the room to cast shadows etc.
Nah, this just won't happen. Imo the net step will be headsets if they really wanted to go down the path of augmented reality.
What about if the player starts casting shadows if he gets in the way of one of the projectors? That would be pretty damn annoying :P...
But I guess it's a cool fantasy, just impossible I think.
I honestly don't see this happening really until OLED gets so cheap it can be put all over walls like a wall paper lol.
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Originally Posted by Robert
People said the same thing about Home PC's and DVD's 20 years ago....Too expensive...would take up an entire room...now you can buy a DVD player for $20 at Walmart...
Tech moves too fast for money limitations to be imposed...
And yet the cost of consoles seems to keep going up, same with games. Granted some of that could be to do with inflation, but mostly it's because they used more tech. So it's the reverse to what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monolith
Projectors are a niche product. How many people do you know who use one? The reason prices of home PCs and disk players go cheap is by mass demand. Plus they just don't work for most people. I used one at work, it sucked. Any light in your room? The picture is crap for any cheap projector (which they will use, for sure) and the price of luminance isn't really going down.
I'm sorry I just disagree with this being practical. Unless, as Justei says, we have OLED wallpaper&furniture it won't happen. Even when we have that technology the cost of running it probably removes it from the mass market too, if not the cost of buying it. Electricity costs are going up after all, turning your room into a huge screen is just a waste of money for what it adds.
Frankly headsets (and eye implants/contact lenses) are the way to go. Google Glasses already see that.
(Also fixed your post, seriously the ... is so childish. If it's a pause, use a full stop, if its a short pause, a comma. I used to do it when I was younger, but really it does make you look silly, and it's simply unnecessary. You are telling people to pause for 3 full stops worth of time making your posts annoying to read!)
Not really, Depending on how they create the experince determines if it can be patented. If it is different from sonys it is still possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow destroy
All joking aside it could be worse you could be a design company that has never created any thing in your life but pretty cases and then attempt to sue every company for stealing your so called work and designs that exsisted before you created your pretty crap.
Ow wait sorry I forgot we have apple to do that.
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Originally Posted by KiddRiu
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Nobody is an apple hater , but they really do sue for everything , even for stuff they never invented , yet they "pattented it" , it been prooved several times that most parts of iPhone or iPod were in the market way before Apple started making them , they just perfected the technology for themselves to earn money. Lots of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monolith
Little off topic but Hey...I'll bite...
You act as if thats not the American way...our goal is to try and find some way to become rich without actually doing anything....frivilous lawsuits are a mainstay of the American court systems...
Look..Google is suing Apple over patents...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...le-sues-apple/
Hell..Google is even suing itself!
http://betabeat.com/2011/10/google-s...tual-ventures/
Do a Google search of ANY large company...add the word "sue" after it's name and you'll see it happens all the time...but no one cares...but WHOA..Apple does it and they are branded greedy.
Here..I'll even make it easy for you...
Let me Google Microsoft and sue for you
Let me Google Motorola and sue for you
Let me Google Exxon and sue for you
Nothing to say anymore, this thread becomes sooner or later a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monolith
Was just replying to your opinions :)
I always had this idea that it would be cool if there was like a gaming cube like thing. Like; you have this cube like a nother room but smaller and you step inside and put on the goggles and gloves and the room turns into the console (i had this idea for pokemon) so you would do the actions that you would see the people in pokemon do (e.g. throw a pokeball) and it was like a virtual reality cube. Something that my friends and i always bring up when we are stoned
Pretty sure they had those in arcades like 10+ years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksta
VR isn't hard to make these days, it just costs a fair bit and takes a lot of space.