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Just wondering what this thing is because the group of people I do weed with have these now(no nicotine).
I was thinking of getting one because their $10 but I was wondering if anyone knows if its worth getting. All I know is that I should get one without nicotine. Also what kind of damages could these do to my health.
E Lites i know them as, they have no tobacco or no tar which is already a bonus to your health Why Choose Electronic Cigarettes? Low Tar Cigarettes from E-Lites - Electric Cigarette Company
If you were a smoker I would definitely recommend switching to e-cigs undoubtedly! If you're not a smoker to start with I am not necessarily sure why you would (sure there's nice flavors, but then again there's gum, IDK lol)... I have been a one pack a day smoker for most of my life. I have tried to quit and nothing worked... All the nicotine gums, patches, hypnosis, and so on and so on. None of it worked. Then I figured, well, I must just actually like smoking too much (not to mention the physical nicotine dependency)... The day I got my ecig I didn't even finish the pack of smokes I had on me at that time (they ended up in the trash)...
Regardless the nice thing is, is that the "ejuice" is available in a bajillion different flavors and with varying levels of nicotine (all the way down to 0mg of nicotine like you said)... I know some people may use it to 'quit' but I just use it as an alternative. I always get the "high" content (which at my vendor at least is 26mg nicotine)... It satisfies my nic fits just as good if not better than a traditional "analog" cigarette! Never looked back. I say this as I'm literally sitting here puffing on mine :D: The other nice thing of course (not knowing where you're from) anywhere where 'smoking' is 'banned' does not apply to ecigs, because there's no fire or burning of anything (it's only 'steam' vapor)... So you can use these things in hospitals, aircraft, movie theaters, restaurants, and so on...
Back more in terms of health concerns. Surely it is MUCH better than smoking 'analog' cigarettes since those you're lighting something on fire, and inhaling the SMOKE from it... I've noticed a HUGE improvement in my lung capacity and running ability since I quit smoking (and started "vaping")... Now I am not sure of any potential "long term effects" but I don't really know if anyone really knows the answer to that since it's kind of a new thing. Though I will say even talking to a Dr. about it, he said he personally (I guess as not to give me a 'professional' answer LOL) though they are and would be ok for people to use, and safely. Certainly without the same risks that come with inhaling smoke! IE cancer...
As far as the ganj goes, I do know of a few dispensaries in CA, USA that actually have THC drops for these things too :wink: So depending on the legality of THC in your jurisdiction (or if perhaps you could figure out how to extract it to make your own THC juice :wink:) that could also be beneficial to your health, as surely inhaling "weed" smoke is still just that, smoke! So in due time I'm sure people will also be using these things to "get high" or to 'consume their medicine'...
Personally I would recommend JOYE products, I have always owned JOYE products (from my 2nd ecig and on because my first one/brand was so FAIL)...
I'm so glad I didn't give in to peer pressure when I was in school, But if I did smoke I would DEFINITELY without a doubt try this.
If I could offer any further information I would say that I personally like VG ejuice over PG (vegetable glycerin vs propylene glycol based)... Of course though you'd have to try both to see what you like the best...
E-Cigs are definately a great replacement for normal cigarettes. I've owned one and does really help, even though this is not how I stopped smoking (I just stopped buying cigs and resisted the craving)
But watch out as there are still some e-cigs that can still be harmful, it's usually the really cheap ones. This is the one I had: VAPESTICK Classic Starter Kit (no tar/nicotine, so it's safe)
If you are a smoker, they are good to help you quit. They occupy your mind & hands as well as give off a water-vapor "smoke" but at the day that's all it is - water vapor. If you're not a smoker though, i would absolutely not recommend it, because your hand & mouth will get into the habit and you'll start wanting a smoke even though you've never done it before.
If you're trying to quit, stop being a pussy and just quit. No, you don't need cigarettes. No, you don't crave one right now. If my grandmother can quit cold turkey after 60 years of smoking then anyone can.
If you're trying to be cool and fit in with your friends, don't. These do nothing for you and negatively affect your health in every way.
Exactly this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
To be honest, I only smoked because I thought it was "cool" even though I knew it's harmful, so I just suddenly stopped even though sometimes I felt as if I'm craving for one, the thing is you just have to put your mind to something else, I play a console game to keep my mind and hands busy. But like I said before, good quality e-cigs may also help.
Well straying somewhat offtopic here, yes smoking tobacco products is HORRIBLE for you (anyone)! Looking at the chart below it falls a LITTLE too close to Cocaine and Heroin for me (paying more attention to the dependence variable):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...endence%29.svg
Not to mention it's obviously worse than cannibas AND alcohol!
Meanwhile the most addictive part of tobacco product use, nicotine, when (lightly) compared to another 'popular drug' people use, caffeine, one may draw the conclusion that the two really aren't that different from each other. Now I'm don't mean their molecular chemical formula either, I mean the effect they have on the human body... So, should someone be addicted and dependent on nicotine, I think the ecig is a perfect and safe alternative! Now of course I wouldn't recommend anyone that doesn't use nicotine to start (unless they have "ADD" which I'll get in to in a moment) whether it would be smoking, or "vaping".
This is true too, alternatively to being an alternative, it can and does help people quit. You can slowly wean yourself off of the nicotine dependency. Also it could be a very bad idea to form that hand/mouth relationship if your not dependent on nicotine IMHO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
This is true and not true at the same time. #1) I know this is true because no matter what I tried to utilize to quit, in the end I realized I did not want to, had I actually wanted to, I could have done it... The whole "If you set your mind to it, you can do anything" mindset! Truth. #2) I know there's a false to this, because knowing it's almost as addictive as other drugs people construe as "serious" drugs like cocaine and heroin, having SEEN people go through withdrawals from drugs like those, does make it VERY hard to do so physically! So Ron, that just makes your grandmother a REALLY strong person!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
I would also HAVE to agree with NOT starting tobacco or nicotine use out of 'trending' (because you "think it's cool") ~ that's a HORRIBLE idea. Now however, I COULD recommend anyone with "ADD" to use nicotine because I can personally vouch that nicotine helps with ADD (personal experience on that one). Which also explains my lack of desire to "quit". When I don't consume nicotine (not only am I your stereotypical douche bag) I can't focus on any given single thing, mind running 200 MPH. When I intake a little nicotine though, smooth sailing. Sources other than personal experience: Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder & Nicotine shows potential medical benefits Though that is obviously a personal decision. Though I personally prefer it to other pharmaceutical synthetics like Methylphenidate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I also read that it may be good for OCD (Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).
Though I think we've all strayed way off topic as the OP never clearly indicated whether they smoke or not or what (lack of details). So, now that it's a good thing there's extra info for people that may smoke and or be trying to quit:
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IF [ Do you smoke != yes ] == do not get one; even w/o nicotine (that is, if you do not smoke, do not get one, that would be my recommendation)
IF you want to try 'vaping' your THC instead of smoking it (if THC 'drops' are available to you) then I would say YES, get one. Clearly you've all but directly said/admitted you 'smoke weed' - even though in your words it was "I do weed with", which I understand does not necessarily mean you 'smoke' it, though that is the #1 most common method of ingestion. So I apologize if I'm mistaken on your chosen method of ingestion.
Health wise it's no worse than consuming plain nicotine, and if you obtained the ones with NO nicotine in them (0mg) then it would be similar to boiling a pot of water on your stove and inhaling the steam 'vapors' that evaporated out of the pot. I think the worst part of it, if you are/were a non cigarette smoker would be the psychiatric downside of possibly forming a hand/mouth relationship which is very commonly associated as one of the strongest difficulties in quitting smoking. So on the flip side of the fence (my opinion that you shouldn't start if you're a non smoker) would be: ANYTHING in life can be ABUSED, ANYTHING in life can be "BAD FOR YOU" (not just nicotine, caffeine, drugs, alcohol, etc) so if you were going to use it in moderation (say, instead of having an 'after dinner mint' you vaped for 5~10 minutes with no nicotine for just the flavor of your choice) then pfft, why the hell not... ... ... Or maybe you "don't like the taste of weed" however you do ingest it? IDK, since you weren't too specific. If that was the case, I wouldn't see having an ecig (with 0mg of nicotine) as a bad or dangerous thing. It'd be the same idea as the after dinner mint. So you use it after every time you ingest your 'weed'. Surely marijuana use doesn't commonly wind up with the same frequency of hand/mouth dependency/habit relationships that smoking cigarettes does because it's (usually) smoked much less often! So if you wanted to vape a little cherry flavor (or whatever you chose!) after you 'weed' session, go for it... IF you DO decide to get one, I don't know that I'd trust any one being sold for a mere $10... I have usually spend about $50~70 on my ecig "kits" of various JOYE models. I've had two or so different brands that I've tried to and so far none seem to come close to the excellent quality of JOYE, so I'd still highly recommend JOYE should you decide to get one!
To very specifically answer this question, I cannot personally say it will or will not do any damage. Again, at this point, it's still a little too new to definitively know for sure I suppose. At this point, given their design/function, it's presumed to not cause any damage. It's steam, see my boiling pot of water reference above, or steam with nicotine in it (depending on which is purchased)...Quote:
Also what kind of damages could these do to my health.
For further informational purposes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqz6TvAKcBQ
that will show pretty much how they actually work (even though I find those small ones [almost the size of a traditional cigarette] just don't cut it [they don't produce enough vapor], mine personally is about the size of a bold marker JOYE eGO-T) {an even better setup ~ that would also be maintenance free would be grabbing an eGO-C/T 1000 mAh pass-through battery and one of THESE, although I would actually recommend THESE low resistance models instead (1.8-2.0 Ω vape even better than the 2.1-2.4 Ω) Being "disposable" you'd never have to worry about cleaning and replacing atomizers, just get a new cartomizer once a month for ~$5}
E-Cigars are just an excuse of saying "I quit smoking." Oh Righhhhht you dont smoke that tobacco shit anymore, youve been addicted to those batteries. This is just complete bullshit.
Well I just bought a e-cig that is nicotine free and it taste good. It's not addicting at all and I get about 600 puffs. I tried it at my friends house and its smooth. I still didn't open mine yet, and I don't think ill be opening it anytime soon. For $10 it's a pretty good buy.
Well what can i say, everybody has their own opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pain Itachi
Got them, prefer real cigarettes though..
... e-cigs with no nicotine? what's the point then.. That's just lame as fuck -__-
E-cigs are designed to promote smokers to quit cigarettes or give the smokers something easier to smoke.
Just getting an e-cig with no nicotine just to puff is kind of stupid.. Just stick to weed, why try to fit in with tobacco smokers.. Cigarettes are death stick to weed...