looking for a MMO

Well, simply put, I'm kinda tired of the extremely-often copied hack-n-slash-your-way-to-top-level games.

What I'm looking for is a game where something other than fighting (preferably a harvester-crafter-style thing) has an important role, if not being the sole game. Something where a non-fighter could stil achieve things.

I've searched my ass off for hours already, so now I'm asking here, as I'm sure some of u guys know a lot more...

btw, I already know about A Tale in the Desert(p2p:pissed:) and Eternal Lands (they fucked up the economy)

Well, If you don't want the hack-n-slash. Doing the same thing over 23058 times to be the best then really. MMORPG's Arn't for you. Try looking into something like Halo. CS. AA. or something along those lines. The game your asking for, I don't think exists. I've never heard of one. Most likely because that kind of game wouldn't fly.

There is no MMO in what your asking for. As I know of. and i've played my fair many.

Its not out yet but this shoudl be what your kinda looking for ;)
http://www.harvestmoononline.com/
Im not sure if its professionals or a real company it could also be just a group of ppl that are good at this ><

Play first player shooting game like GunzOnline ^^

I play all kinds of games, including racing, shooters and strategy...
And there may not be many, but there ARE MMO games that don't require you to fight...
The 2 I mentioned above being good examples, only that they're not suited for the reasons stated.

And thx Gabrieth, I'll keep an eye out for it :)

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Originally Posted by Gabrieth

Its not out yet but this shoudl be what your kinda looking for ;)
http://www.harvestmoononline.com/
Im not sure if its professionals or a real company it could also be just a group of ppl that are good at this ><

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lol i remember that on the snes and gb was actually not a bad game. i might have to look into this mmo version.

Yeah goto admit.
There arent any.
I played EL when he started it & the most players online was like ~15.
Its Greather btw ;)

yeah EL used to be good...
till the community got worse, and the economy collapsed, due to the only thing really rewarding being fighting and the other skills hopelessly rushed.

Dude to tell you the truth,there are no games left :P IF you played Gunzonline,W.O.W(real deal),R.O,Gunbound,Battle position,Gate To Heaven,Help me and make this list longer :P.

http://www.autoassault.com/index.html

Kinda reminds me of Twisted Metal that was on Ps1 but this is ones a mmorpg ,I haven't tried it out yet but looks pretty good.

Everyone has like a perfect view of their perfect MMO(RPG). But i think no1 has really cared to ask customers what they want in a game before they already did 80% of the development already (Like Graphics Engine, Basic Game system, all those features that sound really good on paper but suck when u actually get to experience them).

I think a company who already has a customer base and plans on developing another game, should just select a couple hundred from their most veteran users and kind of "work" with them and get a feel for what customers really want to have as far as even the most basic levels of the game (For example, Game system - how it will play, formulas etc, Game graphics - everyone looks for the best, but the best graphics doesnt mean the best game, Technique involved - game system sorta plays into that, but i know alot of people either complain about a game which needs too much skill or is just a button masher. Basically all this kinds of stuff). Too bad that this isnt a common practice because it just costs too much to have revisions upon revisions with no clear game plan, so these companies look at the most popular games on their market and mimic, some do a good job, some don't...

So far, the most perfect MMORPG that i've found (for me) to be the "best" is Lineage 1. The graphics aren't impressive, but the gameplay is really good - They were working on converting Lineage 1 to Lineage Forever which was going to be Lineage 1 in 3D, but that was given up when some creative "genious(es)" came up with the Lineage 2 Idea.

Also, EVE Online is decent as far as having a big world with lots to do, but it gets boring because you do have to "Grind" to get the big money and really experience the game (whether it be mining, item creation(which is really involved) or just space dog fighting with all the mops and or people).

Guild Wars is another MMORPG that really pulled its weight for all the hype it got. It has a huge world (and its gettin bigger with every major update), plenty of quests, spells(theres literarly over 100) that can be customized specifically for a certain quest or Guild vs. Guild gameplay. And i can't forget Guild Wars graphics, definately one of the best games i've played just graphics-wise.

A really good futuristic MMORPG, Redmoon. Its really cool if you like "Lookalike 3D", its based in the future so it has a sort of "Spells and Skills" theme but its all futuristic. And not only that, the Higher up Mana Potions are different liquior types, you can't go wrong with that. The world isn't big but its still full of rewards and stuff.

Some of the "Bad ones" that arent really bad but dont quite pull their weight are Lineage 2(gameplay gets little too repetitive, you basically do the same thing from level 1 to lvl 75 or whatever - whack monsters, get equipment and spells...nothing new really happens like a durastic change of gamestyle or whatever), MU (really good...but still lacks that change in gamestyle, you basically just go around hitting mops...higher level you are the higher level mops you kill, doesnt really even get harder, just the same), Ragnarok Online (this one is actually decent, despite all the bad rep it gets, the graphics could be better but the gameplay is decent), City of Heroes/City of Villians (it lures you in with one of the best charecter customization experiences ever, but when you start to play and play and play more, it becomes kind of bland and almost loses its flavor by the time you get your 2nd costume and some of the better skills - Although, the charecter system is really cool, more classes couldnt hurt though, i guess CoV will fix that a tad).

There are many more, but most really fall into one of two categories: 1) Catches you and actually motivates you to play, almost like a drug, you play 12 hours a day even sometimes skip school or take a sick day off work. Also known as Good. 2) Ok?/Bad?/Horrible! - Catches you on one aspect, but all the other aspects are really unoriginal and feel like the same old game with a different graphics engine. Also known as "Blah".

In short, finding a perfect mmorpg is sort of impossible. But finding that game that is as close to you as possible is definately worth it, except the downside to that is you have to go through alot of MMORPGs to even find what you're really looking for =/.

Anyways, i wish you luck in your search for the best MMORPG for you =P.

lol, nice post :D
had nuttin to do or what?

Wise said!

Try horizons, crafting is about half the game (if not more) but it's p2p and run by GN. (both bad on their own)

Crash

u checked out RF Online ? www.rfbase.com , www.risingforce.ph

Ehh you know, one thought leads to another and so on =P.

I didn't know that any RFOnline was up for Registration (except Korean RF, i remember trying to sign up for their closed beta but never really got anywhere with that).

RF definately looks good, but the only version i actually tried was the Private server thinggy - which was like an Alpha version of the server i guess....Plus u can play a robot o.o;; Hopefully it wount be AL2C(Another Lineage 2 Clone), right now i have my hopes up for that :).

yeah , but the private server thinggy u played isn't even close to the OB

You really must play the OB, but the japanese OB just closed yesterday

U should wait till 18 nov look at www.risingforce.ph

And about ur big posts :P ur tottaly right ...

But just like u said : right now i have my hopes up for that:D ( RF Online )

well there is a game i heard about on onrpg.com. its called Goonzu i think, dont know the link and i havent tried it, but apparently it has a lot to do with crafting, and the economy is run by players.sorry i dont have a link, but just google it if you wanna check it out

i wil check it out

looks like crap , it won't do it for me

http://goonzu.ndoors.com/center/boar...=611294&page=5

www.goonzu.com

Goonzu looks like crap, and didn't start up anywayz.
after the login screen the game locked up.

And yeah, I heard about Horizons, but the p2p thingy made stop looking into it...

And I'll definitely keep an eye on RF...
looks like a good combo of economic and war-like RPG.

lol, i didnt say goonzu looked good, i just said it had some of the elements you were looking for :icon6: