Deathcad.org shutdown your thoughts on the liberator 3d gun
Cody Wilson Responds To Congress Shutting Down Website With 3D Printer Gun Designs - YouTube
so whats your thoughts about this? i think this guys rocks and is like a fucken hero
all the feds have done is made his 3d printable gun even more viral there fucken idiots i sware
want the cads for it visit this site
<link removed - it's socially irresponsible to be distributing these blueprints>
*Please not the files above are available as Open source and free to world, printing and manufacturing guns of any kind with out follow your countries laws is illegal and could lead you to get in alot of trouble with your local authorities.
he has also created lower recivers for ar15 and clips all made from abs plastic ethier way its incredible the technology these days
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Don't come crying when your mom gets shot in the ass by a plastic gun ok.
and it was the right thing to do, enough guns already.
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I was planning to buy 3D Printer but not this. All I had in mind was to print 3d action figures. lol
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I seriously hope everyone who downloads this gets arrested. The world does not need any more guns in it, especially such dangerous ones. I seriously don't give a shit what America thinks, this is a danger to the rest of the planet. No one has the right to release shit like this to the entire planet. Frankly the US government should have jailed the creators as soon as they suggested doing this.
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he has a license thats why they cant arrest him its not against the law to do what he did even how morally wrong it may be.Get used to modern technology not every one will use it nd there is more worse things then this out there.
for those who argument there is too much guns there is too much knives out there to many bricks too many of alot of things everything can be used in a evil or bad manner its the person who kills not the object. if your gonna kill someone you will kill them regardless of a having a gun what you gonna do be like uk ban knives cause after they banned guns knife attacks increased to more then what the gun attacks were before
I agree those who print these for reason to do harm should get arrested if you print for protection then +1
Im getting a 3d printer my self so i can print warhammer figurines and faces that i scan into cad software i know i wont be printing guns.
also if those who say that its undetectable gun, its not at all, especially with modern scanning technology and the fact it still needs a metal firing pin.
also its not like someone is gonna print out one and kill a heap of people its one shot wonder.
just look at cads you will see
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he has a license thats why they cant arrest him its not against the law to do what he did even how morally wrong it may be.Get used to modern technology not every one will use it nd there is more worse things then this out there.
for those who argument there is too much guns there is too much knives out there to many bricks too many of alot of things everything can be used in a evil or bad manner its the person who kills not the object. if your gonna kill someone you will kill them regardless of a having a gun what you gonna do be like uk ban knives cause after they banned guns knife attacks increased to more then what the gun attacks were before
I agree those who print these for reason to do harm should get arrested if you print for protection then +1
Im getting a 3d printer my self so i can print warhammer figurines and faces that i scan into cad software i know i wont be printing guns.
also if those who say that its undetectable gun, its not at all, especially with modern scanning technology and the fact it still needs a metal firing pin.
also its not like someone is gonna print out one and kill a heap of people its one shot wonder.
Afaik it's illegal to own a gun without the gun being licensed to you. If it wasn't, all guns would be untraceable. Using technology for evil purposes should be seriously punished. But saying it's modern technology is pretty BS, shit like this has been around for generations, a gun is simply a cylinder with a pin hammer on the end after all. This just make homemade weapons far more dangerous to every person on earth.
A gun has one purpose. To kill things. That is why they shouldn't be allowed. It's no mystery as to why guns are only allowed in seriously fucked up countrys without a valid reason. A knife however serves a very useful purpose, therefore there is a valid reason not to ban them. Likewise with bricks, and pretty much everything else. If you are going to kill someone, a gun makes it trivial. Frankly arguing you are as likely to kill someone with a knife as a gun is retarded at best. Put it this way, how would you prefer to be attacked, with a knife that you can easily run away from or try to wrestle it away from them with it being close quarters, or shot from 10 metres away in the back while you try to run away?
As for knife attacks being high, are you insane? I live in the UK, I've never even heard of someone being attacked with a knife. People simply aren't that stupid, why fight with a knife and get like 10 years in prison, when you can fight with your fists instead and get off with nowt. There are very few weapon attacks in the majority of England because there is little need for them, you aren't going to be attacked by a weapon so why would you need one. If weapon attacks were so common, don't you think the police would carry something more than what basically amounts to a large stick. Don't believe the myth that knife crime in England is high, it just isn't.
So you have a legit reason to have a 3D printer. Great, you are the type of person who will be fucked over by the people doing this. They can't exactly stop being printing the weapon once they have the drawing, so the only way to stop people doing it is to clamp down on the printers. Most likely by taxing the fuck out of the materials and using it to pay for more police to deal with these types of shootings.
This is the first generation. Do you even understand what the first versions of guns looked like? Hint, they put them in boats. As the DPI of the printers increases, the quality of the gun will vastly increase, like with dot matrix printers -> laser printers. Why would you need a metal firing pin when there are plastics as strong as steel now? In a few generations of guns, the design will easily get to the point equal to current guns. This whole concept needs to be stopped and killed right now, because it'll be too late by the second generation tbh.
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robert please stop lieing to your self some times you have good to say other times its just you thinking you know everythig, for one here is just some of the many legit articles proving about knives how niavie are you man?
https://mega.co.nz/#!n4g1kJKR!KROCH0...CcwRbfI10Wpz2Q
A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling | Mail Online
http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/si...ss_student.pdf
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn04304.pdf
Knife crime | UK news | The Guardian
my familiy come from uk so i tend to belive what they say over what you think you know
and thats just a few links for you if you think knife crime is a myth your shurly mistaken
the only part of your message i agree is the last ofc this tech will get better over time but just because you can print a gun dosent mean shit i can make one out of wood and small to boot and undetectable i dont see them banning wood from shops do you?? or nails or the tools to make them. as i said man
its the person who kills not the object and a gun can be used in defense just as much as it can be used in offense
also there is a reason why your police dont carry guns and if you research you will find the answer.
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You need to read this
10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down | Mother Jones
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read it interesting read still dose not make me think twice, amreicans are lucky they have a right to bare arms.
also that page only shows one side of the coin and some of it is a gross over reaction.
I bet it was created by someone who wants to limit guns from the people. you realise that gun murders and suicides are infact from mentally unstable people anyone who premeditates a murder is crazy there fucked in the head anyone who kills them self is also unstable yes a gun is the easyest way out alot easier then cutting gassing hanging so its no wonder people like that choose guns to do it over the other options.
still dose not mean that all the normal and lawfull gun owners should be punished for it.maybe your government should invest in better care and or options for the mentally ill.
lets look at this answer these questions
kid get bullied has fucked up upbringing goes and shoots school up who is at fault the gun or the school and the parents?
person goes to doctor and says he is haveing issues needs help doctor say just go home relax and if it persist come back and he kills self who is at fault gun or doctor.
guy looses all his money his home his wife goes on a rampage whos at fault gun or the guy?
now answer this
pervet climbs into your house tries to rape your daughter you have no guns what you do?
pervet climbs into your house tries to rape your daughter you have a gun what you do?
i could go on with heaps of ways a gun can help and you could go on saying heaps of ways that guns are bad
but all in all you could be afraid of guns or work ways to educate people on better ways to use handle and keep guns safe.
banning guns will never end the violence and thats a 100% true fact
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It was just a matter of time, if this guy did it in his basement then I'm sure terrorist groups will be able to do the same and maybe they secretly printed guns before this guy even started this project. The positive thing about it is that US authorities can now have an idea of what to look for and find ways to prevent people from smuggling this shit into planes before it happens and investigate people who show too much interest in these printers and its printing material.
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Enough with guns already. I would have banned them all.
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at yoss they cant smuggle onto planes they have enough tech to scan it so i would not be worried about that to much
remember 9/11 was usa made the government knew about it and did nothing they needed it to happen to keep everyone scared so they can systematically remove all your rights from you.
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Love how your fella says there's now detectors to see plastic firearms, and whatnot... what - them big devices you walk through? What about people on foot doing a job? They only got their handheld metal detectors... and I'd imagine there's plenty of countries still that are quite far back to not have these detectors yet in their airports, and what have you.
This designer is just an egotistical douchebag.
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Scare tactics more than anything, plus the vast majority happens in London anyway, which might as well be another country to the rest of the UK. But again, a knife attack is far less dangerous than a gun attack, how can you even compare a cut at close range to a gaping hole at long range. Plus neither are defensive weapons in this context, both are offensive. A defensive weapon is a taser, or similar non-lethal weapon.
Don't put too much faith in what you are told by your family. They has as much an opinion on things as I or you. You need to have critical thinking about everything if you want to be even a remotely intelligent person.
It's all about context. UK papers make knife crime out to be a big thing because there isn't really anything worse. It's like gun crime in America, there isn't really anything worse (cept the odd bomb etc), so you tend to focus on that. But comparing the two because of similar media attention is simply folly. As I said, think to yourself, would you prefer to be shot or stabbed, at both close and long range. If you prefer to be shot, well frankly no argument I could possibly construct would sway you, you are simply wrong. If knives were so powerful, why would American criminals use guns?...
You wouldn't make one out of wood. The heat of the barrel would destroy it, and likely it wouldn't hold the pressure and would explode. It's pretty much the reason why the plastic ones have so few shots in them, the heat and pressure wears it out too quickly. In a normal gun the bullet is too small for the barrel and is actually damaged by the much stronger barrel, it makes the bullet go further as none of the gas behind the bullet can escape before the bullet. In a plastic gun, the bullet is stronger than the plastic, thus instead of the bullet getting damaged, the reverse happens (or the bullet is loose in the barrel, and the range/accuracy etc suffers). It's also why people don't bother making guns out of pipes, it just isn't worth it. The reason 3D printing is more dangerous than other home made guns is down to advancing technology. How much better could you make your wood gun, compared to a plastic gun which is going to improve automatically as printer DPI and materials improves with customer demand. It's the same way with battery technology, the consumer demand for phones, laptops, tablets etc, is increasing the range on electric cars without electric car manufacturers having to improve their battery design.
Guns kill people. Without the gun it would be person against person, and without serious martial arts training good luck killing someone without getting seriously hurt yourself. Gun self defence doesn't exist, if you shoot someone in self defence you should go to jail more than a criminal without a gun. Guns have one job, to kill the other animal, using one should be treat like attempted murder regardless of the situation.
The reason our police don't use guns is because the police morally shouldn't want to kill people. I hear of American police killing people all the time by mistake. They are trained to shot and ask questions later, which is obviously needed because everyone could potentially kill them. Neither have valid reasons to want to kill each other, they simply shouldn't have guns.
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"Deathcad.org shutdown your thoughts on the liberator 3d gun"
No they didn't shutdown my thoughts on the 3d gun...