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"21 - Forget, 22 - Determine, 23 - Expecting" thinks tidie10
drag on - delay
figure out - determine
counting on - expecting
aw u was faster 2 me :( but still 21 i bet delay :PQuote:
Originally Posted by tidie10
"I wouldn't know the answer on 21, i have never studied english before in my life." says tidie10Quote:
Originally Posted by 4FUNer
21-bother
22-Consider
23-expecting
all seems right.
Delay,
Determine,
Expecting.
But the 21 is really hard to figure out.
21. C (Forget)
22. D (Determine)
23. B (Expecting)
21 is D : delay
From here : drag on - definition of drag on by Macmillan Dictionary
Hey! Where is Spoiler Warning? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kreeate
:lol: :lol:
Lol@Location England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
You seriously don't know what drag on means?
So many facepalms, so little faces and palms.
Top quality humour, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by afonsolage
Oh we're doing someone's homework?
its a damn English test, I have no idea about the answers but here's mine
delay
consider
expecting
anyone can make sure the answer for 'figure out'?
so what are the Correct answers?
Mine :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MuXGuardian
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by afonsolage
lol.. exam paper ~ how much mark you get ?
The actual answers for non-retards:
21. C (Forget)
22. D (Determine)
23. B (Expecting)
:*:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
So I got B-?
No you got a CQuote:
Originally Posted by afonsolage
i was 1st with delay copy-cat hehehe :D jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by afonsolage
but im also not an eng person so....
@Lunerica can you explain whyQuote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
21 = Forget
and Delay is wrong answer? :P
bcz every friend i've asked for, told me it should be delay lol
Looking in contexts, Delay is wrong, if you naturally would suggest delay is right; that is your county/country natural speak for it and not because it is literally right.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4FUNer
don't delay! fathers day is right around the corner,
don't forget! fathers day is right around the corner.
forget makes 100% more sense than delay in the context of the conversation.
I agree with 22 & 23, but 21...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
I worked it out with process of elimination and traditional english speaking.
To postpone is to cause or arrange for something to take place at a time later than that first scheduled. Dragging on implies that you're conducting a task or an event is taking place over a longer period of time than it needs to essentially.
I'm going to leave bother, since that's just obvious.
To forget is to inadvertently neglect to attend to, do, or mention something. Something that drags on, as aforementioned, is something that lasts unnecessarily long. They just don't have matching definitions, nor do they have similar contexts.
But remember what the person says before that, "I haven't made up my mind yet" - so in the context it is forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Going off that though, you haven't forgotten, you just simply haven't made up your mind. Surely when you're faced with a decision, you're fully aware of the choices placed infront of you? If you'd forgotten them, then there wouldn't be a decision to make, and instead of forgetting, you'd simply delay the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
Surely, living in England, you don't really use forget instead of drag on though? When do English people EVER say that? It doesn't make sense at all, sorry buddy.
21. Forget
22. consider
23. expecting
If I were use what I've learned in school, the correct answer would be:
21 - The book is on the table;
22 - The book is on the table;
23 - The book is on the table;
:lol: :lol: :lol:
1. - Forget
2. - Consider
3. - Expecting
Have fun.
guys I have no idea about the answers yet, these answers are not to be revealed by the Ministry Education Department, so imma gotta wait for my teacher to figure out the answer.
will update once~
btw gahh tough question right? xd
21). Delay
22). Consider
23). Expecting
P.s. I'm Russian :blushing:
Willl Never End:)
I'd say the following is correct:
21. Delay
22. Determine
23. Expecting
Ok, because this question is completely wrong, I am going to go ask several English teachers in a grammar school this question and see what they say.
There's always a dictionary:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
From the sentence, I'd say A. But none of them would actually be a correct translation.Quote:
drag on - last unnecessarily long
drag on - proceed for an extended period of time; "The speech dragged on for two hours"
It has to be delay, that's the only answer that makes sense. They are talking about buying a present for Father's Day. They are saying the other needs to hurry up and buy something soon, as they haven't got a long time to decide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
I'm really not sure what logic you used to get forget, but for me the context says it has to be delay.
But hey, I only got a B at GCSE, so it's entirely likely I could be wrong. Though I tend to be right about this type of question.
I got a B in GCSE as well, but got full marks across the board in SPAG marks.
Anyway, look at what Dhiva says: "I need to talk it over with my sisters."
then Melissa replies "Don't forget!" as in not to forget to talk to them.
This is the only way it makes sense, don't delay really doesn't make sense.
Lunerica is sharp, and has raised valid points to why forget would be the ideal word. Yes, drag on is a synonym to delay, but does that really matter? Contextual, they're both adequate terms.
A would make sense because Dhiva could be postponing due to not having heard back from her sisters yet and not wanting to tell Melissa that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
B would make sense because with Father's day around the corner, she doesn't have the time to talk it over with her sisters anymore.
C would make sense because Melissa could remind Dhiva to ask her sisters.
D would make sense for the same reason as A, just doesn't sound as fancy.
I'm no English expert, in fact, it isn't even my native language, so feel free to correct.
It needs to make sense in the context they are speaking of. Forget is the only one which does that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solaire
Don't delay! makes more sense. As in, fair enough, but you better hurry as you don't have long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
I can understand where you are coming from, but drag on simply doesn't mean forget, at least I've never heard it to be.
As I said earlier, the question is structured in such a retarded way. It doesn't explain to what extent you need to look at it. But regardless it is correct that forget is the correct answer. you need to take in the whole conversation, not just the word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Anything besides B makes sense to me then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
I give up now - no point arguing, I will post my findings of what my teachers say tomorrow.
I am, and that's why it can't be forget. The whole, word meaning delay, just strengthens the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
But yeah, it is structured badly, which I find ironic. An English test trying to teach people not to use bad English, uses bad English. It looks like it was structured to say Don't delay!, and they have then replaced it with drag on like they are synonymous when they really aren't.
Again, delay has to be the correct answer because not only is that the only word that makes sense in this context, it also can mean drag on in other context.
I sort of wonder where the OP is from, perhaps drag on has some specific meaning to their culture that we don't know? It's fair enough saying in England drag on means delay, but dialects can be vastly different. America was founded upon British English, and look at how many different words they've messed around with (though mostly changed by Webster to justify the selling of his dictionary :P)
Also I'd be more interested in what the people who made the test say the correct answer is than your teachers. Language is a very localised subject, ways of speaking vary wildly, and really there is no correct way of speaking in the end. I can only say what would normally be accepted in the North East of England, beyond that you'd need to speak to a University Prof who specialises in global English (if indeed drag on can mean different things in different regions, of this I do not know).
Using Delay is correct in terms of the question but overall it is wrong. In real life you would use forget over delay.
No, depending on the country it is written it would be "correct English" for them to say "don't delay". We are talking about the spoken language of English, not British.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
It is asking you for the best meaning of the underlined phrases, it is not asking anything about the context or for you to replace that word back into the sentence.
My findings:
4/6 teachers said Forget
1/6 said delay
the other said he didn't know.
I knew it was "Forget". My answers are pretty accurate. <.<
I'm talking about British English, and I would say Delay is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
Well, at least you have one decent teacher, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
Also were they all English teachers? How can one not know?
I can only guess the other 4 got it wrong because of the way you asked the question.
Also on a side note, I googled drag on forget, the top results were about drag queens. So I'm not sure google knows what you are talking about either, lol.
Drag on Synonyms, Drag on Antonyms | Thesaurus.com
This is not a test from a country where English is the primary language. It is a secondary language there, and their sentence structure differs to ours. In Malaysia (where this test is from) they DO use the phrase "don't delay" and to them that is correct English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
Again, they are NOT asking for you to fit the word back into the context of the sentence, the sentences are there to give context to the phrases. They simply want to know what words the phrases translate to.
The correct answers are
- Delay (the ONLY word there that means "drag on")
- Determine
- Expecting
/Thread and I SERIOUSLY thought this was a troll, nobody the age of 10 should be struggling with this.
Did you even read the whole thread? - I did acknowledge at the top of this page the question requirements. And forgetting where English is used for a moment; this is where language barriers happen, because people aren't brought up with the knowledge of PROPER english and not some 'foreign' idea of English, that is where this question failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
I don't see why everyone has to make a big deal out of it; Forget is correct - regardless if it is from China, or Malaysia. I have learnt proper English, always have and always will; it's not my fault that I can see past the errors in questions. The person who wrote this question, is obviously not English; and probably hasn't even learnt a lot about English language either.
Anyhow, this thread is just going to derail into a huge massive fight about this - my findings were evident enough that it is forget.
And btw they were all A Level English teachers (the one who said he didn't know; didn't care about what I was asking him, it was more a less - get it over with etc). I showed them this thread (well the picture) and they all understood what I was asking them perfectly well.
Delay
Enough said
End of story
Ttfn
<.<
Yeah, I think Lunerica is totally trolling now. British people use Don't Delay! too, Called to Account: Don’t delay, make energy switch easier | The Sunday Times it's pretty common in marketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rishwin
The country where it is used it vitally important meta data to the question. Asking someone how to sell colour for instance without knowing where you are asking it, will give you conflicting answers. Language is constantly changing over time, trying to treat it as if it were a math question is simply flawed, (which is also why I disagree with standardised testing, but that is a separate issue!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunerica
Forget is incorrect, and telling people it's right is just confusing foreigners and kids. You aren't learning proper English if you don't know the meaning of drag on. Seriously, google it, that alone should be enough for you to realise you are wrong.
You findings are not only inconclusive, but also irrelevant as they are from people of a different country. Ask them if saying "by accident" or "on accident" is correct, again depending on country either can be correct (though it pisses me off when people in America say on accident!) As for being A level teachers, well I worry about your education if they can't answer this question correctly. But then the first thing you learn at uni is everything you thought you knew is irrelevant, and you spend your first year relearning everything. Once you get a bit older you will realise teachers aren't infallible.
Also disliking EKs post is a dick move.
This thread has spiraled out of the realm of reasonable productive discussion. I am closing this before infractions are needed for flaming and/or trolling.