The Ukraine Crisis

Very surprised there isn't a thread discussing this. Unless you live under a rock you should probably know by now that Ukraine ain't doing too well the now. Crimea is currently under de facto Russian control, with the Crimean Govt. voting to join Russia. Riots in the streets, troops and heavy armour everywhere in Crimea, tensions are very high out in the former Soviet bloc. An awful lot of rhetoric coming from both Russia and NATO. Ruskies testing ICBMs (after alerting the US of course), both Ukraine and Russia have troops on standby, and it's still quite delicate with the possibility of a war breaking out. All it takes is one pissed off Ukrainian to kill a Russian-speaking citizen of Crimea for it all to tip over!

What's everyone's thoughts on the latest European crisis?

Shit's about to hit the fan. Unless the top dogs come to a reasonable and peaceful solution, which is about as likely as finding Maddie McCann.

The whole idea of "protecting own people" is a load of bull, a half-arsed explanation. If they are your citizens, arrange evacuation, if they are not - it's none of your business.

And what a nice date, a century since WWI started.

This is looking increasingly like the Soviet Union, despite how stupid Russia is they wouldn't risk going back to those times, if it wasn't for their Nuclear deterrent I think they would have been the little kid that has been beaten up by the gang of big kids. (Big Kids being NATO)

The way I see it, it's pointless anyways.
Russia is within the rights of its treaty, the gov't there is in a state of disarray anyways. If they want to become part of russia again, why does it matter?

I find it all so tense. One thing i read is Sarah Palin saying that Obama should nuke Russia. What a dumb sexy milk.

I think there will be a world war in my lifetime. u.u

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Originally Posted by MentaL

I find it all so tense. One thing i read is Sarah Palin saying that Obama should nuke Russia. What a dumb sexy milk.

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He should, but he should make an error and send the nuke a little more to the east. ;)


As for why there wasn't a topic yet, I think it's because most people don't really know what to think, people like to comment on (seemingly) clear cases, voicing your opinion is a lot harder when you're not sure what should happen.

And yes, I'm one of those people, to me this came out of 'nowhere', I didn't know what was going on and things are way too difficult to know what is right. Give me the good ol' terrorists killing innocents, at least I know who to root for.

Speaking to my friend living out there he says pretty much the government are majorly corrupt but the ones who will replace aren't great, either. :(

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Originally Posted by Not4You

I think there will be a world war in my lifetime. u.u

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Same thoughts here :huh:

i gues i do live under a rock, because i had no idea, but if you ask me every country has some sort of crisis

Whatever happens Obama shouldn't be stupid enough to interfere because AFAIK Russia is looking for the simplest thing to start beef with USA.

Incoming Cold War #2 .

The thing is the world economy cannot handle another cold war, We'd be in a Recession 2x worse than the 2008 crash.

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Originally Posted by Bloodraven

The thing is the world economy cannot handle another cold war, We'd be in a Recession 2x worse than the 2008 crash.

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“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

i love this quote.

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Originally Posted by MentaL

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

i love this quote.

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Yep, one of his best :P

2x worse than the 2008 recession was probably a guess, uneducated at that but imo it won't be able to handle another major war. I don't think the Kremlin would even favor for a cold war, their economy is in the shits too. Europe is recovering (slowly) America is doing its thing... Russia seems to remain broken from the Soviet Union collapse.

America profits greatly from war, there's a reason that in every administration since probably Roosevelt in the 40s has invaded or been involved in a war with some country

It's ok to talk about it for 5-15 minutes, but more? no ty, shit happens when people "fight".

WW3? np. let me prepare my guns-> $BF4 and drive for the last time my ferrari-> $NFS.

ps. Russia is too op not only millitary, they should all stfu and take care of *** at home,
but what we can do... politics f*** yeah.

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Originally Posted by Bloodraven

Yep, one of his best :P

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His being?

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/World_War_III

Basically there is no proof that the quote is actually Einstein, he did say something similar, but other people have been quoted before him with similar expressions.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pO6q_mFjEUg/0.jpg

Joke aside,
I think if the majority of Crimea wants to Join the USSR,the world should clam the fuck down and acknowledge 'democracy'.
but personally,I would rather join Russia than to stay in a country with unstable economy.

So, they've been voting and it looks like they might go with Russia. At least no war started because of it.

That's the reason why Russia did this. If they had expected a war over it, they would have thought twice about it, but everyone knows that no one is going to war with Russia over a part of land who wants to (re)-join Russia.

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Originally Posted by DrBenSSJ

That's the reason why Russia did this. If they had expected a war over it, they would have thought twice about it, but everyone knows that no one is going to war with Russia over a part of land who wants to (re)-join Russia.

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That's true. We talk about what's going on everyday in my WW2 class. Kinda interesting what happened with them and how it led up to today.

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Originally Posted by SirEpicWin

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pO6q_mFjEUg/0.jpg

Joke aside,
I think if the majority of Crimea wants to Join the USSR,the world should clam the fuck down and acknowledge 'democracy'.
but personally,I would rather join Russia than to stay in a country with unstable economy.

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The USSR was dissolved in 1991.

On topic:I still don't agree with how this went down. Russia invaded a sovereign land and as a super power that is unacceptable. Ukraine as a country has been placing hope in being an independent nation long enough, the European Union and Russia just need to just calm their shit and allow them to find autonomy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBSrM9Ik60

Russia isn't a superpower by any means, not anymore. It's economy fell to shit when the USSR collapsed, the majority of its equipment is soviet-era.

It has more nuclear weapons than anyone but the moment a Nuke is launched the world ends (If a nuke is launched on Europe both France and the UK would nuke them back, nuclear exchanges... the USA probably would retaliate with the good old' nuke too)

Military-wise Russia would fall to NATO. Nuclear wise everyone would fall to each other.

Just my opinion, no war will break out over Crimea.