Custom Game, Odin Source

[SSFM]

So ya know I enjoy Maplestory private servers and all, but I get kind of tired of the same old stuff. I'd like to create an all-new game, similar to Maplestory but without any of the actual graphics or files. (thus avoiding all legal issues, as well, seeing as Odin source is NOT stolen from Maplestory)

However, my java skills are only mediocre. I've picked up on a bit in the several months I've worked on developing servers. I'd love to make a game from scratch, but that requires a tremendous amount of effort, I don't have the java knowledge, and I'm already accustomed to the feel of Maplestory.

So I was thinking how bout this... I know I'm a nobody on RageZone, but would someone care to share info with me about this? For example, how to create (and run) data files similar to wz files, but under a different format. (Starting from scratch, making all NPCs, items, etc.) And an executable (other than a Maplestory client obviously) that will run it.

I know this is not simple stuff, and probably nothing that could be easily explained in a single post. Once again, I'm aware I have no reputation on this site, and thus people won't take me seriously. However, if you'd like to work with me on this or give me tips, I'd greatly appreciate it. Graphics designers would be nice too.

Or even if you just like the idea and have further ideas, post here.

NOTE TO MODS: Please don't delete this without reading the post, thinking I'm talking about wz editing... It's quite the opposite. Why would I add this note? Because another topic of mine (which did not break any of the rules and had not previously been posted) was deleted without any kind of notice or explanation. :/ All I can do is assume they misunderstood my post, or simply felt like clicking that delete button.

 

[lxCrAzYsEl]

Java is not a recommended language to program MMORPG as most people know.
Like u said, you do know that its not that easy to start off a game from scratch.
Anyway, gd luck.

 

[dragonbIood]

well, (im probably wrong on these things) c++ usually is the industry standard for game development, like WoW and many other games. Only games i know coded in java on the top of my head are Runescape and Wurm online. You probably should start off with something smaller, like a text based game with swing

 

[Traitor]

This topic wouldn't be deleted because of you mentioning WZ editing, it'd be moved/closed/deleted as it has nothing to do with MapleStory.

well, (im probably wrong on these things) c++ usually is the industry standard for game development, like WoW and many other games. Only games i know coded in java on the top of my head are Runescape and Wurm online. You probably should start off with something smaller, like a text based game with swing

C++ is the industry standard for a lot of things, including games.

 

[SSFM]

well, (im probably wrong on these things) c++ usually is the industry standard for game development, like WoW and many other games. Only games i know coded in java on the top of my head are Runescape and Wurm online. You probably should start off with something smaller, like a text based game with swing

To give you a taste of my background, I've used Gamemaker since 2006. It isn't as "hardcore" as a plain coding language, but it does have it's own (based off Delphi), and the program is pretty flexible. I've made countless games in the past years. So although I've never made a game in java before, I've got some game development experience, and even in a programming language I'm just learning I'm easily beyond a text-based game.

This topic wouldn't be deleted because of you mentioning WZ editing, it'd be moved/closed/deleted as it has nothing to do with MapleStory.

Well, it is in the sense of using Odin as the base for it. XD

C++ is the industry standard for a lot of things, including games.

I realize that, but as I've been working with java I can't see myself changing that now.


Anyway, I'll probably do some messing around today and see what I can come up with.

 

[CharlieBoy]

Hmm!
This sort of project sounds very intressting. I'm sorta like you, i know some java,html and so on.
I'd like to help you if you get started.


I'll send you a pm with my msn if you want too.

Goodluckz!

 

[SSFM]

Absolutely. The more help the better. PM me.

 

[Macheath]

Java is a better language to work (and easier) with, in my opinion. It sounds really good, good luck.

 

[CharlieBoy]

Absolutely. The more help the better. PM me.

Yepp added.
Im favorit...... <:>

 

[Savage]

Not to be a negative nancy, but with little Java knowledge (and most games not being coded in Java) it's going to be very, very hard to create your own game from scratch. Designing all the graphics, actions, etc. with just a few people, could take you years and years. Traitor is right, this thread should be posted in Coder's section. They could help you a lot more than we can.

 

[SSFM]

Not to be a negative nancy, but with little Java knowledge (and most games not being coded in Java) it's going to be very, very hard to create your own game from scratch.

Quite aware of that. My intent is to use the source of Odin, because there's no way I could code something so complicated without a base. I'm just talking... Heavy modifications. Most releases tend to be about making it more GMS-like, or just something fun. I'm abandoning the idea of keeping it like Maplestory, and having more extreme edits.

More like a "CustomMS", if you will. Custom items, weapons, pets, mobs, maps, npcs, UI, everything, even custom physics... But still using Odin source.

Designing all the graphics, actions, etc. with just a few people, could take you years and years. Traitor is right, this thread should be posted in Coder's section. They could help you a lot more than we can.

Perhaps so. But I can't exactly move the topic, now can I? XD

 

[Sathon]

Already being done, dude. It's called Renoria.

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[Generic230]

Not to be a negative nancy, but with little Java knowledge (and most games not being coded in Java) it's going to be very, very hard to create your own game from scratch. Designing all the graphics, actions, etc. with just a few people, could take you years and years. Traitor is right, this thread should be posted in Coder's section. They could help you a lot more than we can.

You should google up "Renoria" bro. < a year of work.

 

[Moogra]

Please point out in my post where I said no one can code Java.

Not to be a negative nancy, but with little Java knowledge (and most games not being coded in Java) it's going to be very, very hard to create your own game from scratch. Designing all the graphics, actions, etc. with just a few people, could take you years and years. Traitor is right, this thread should be posted in Coder's section. They could help you a lot more than we can.

Little Java knowledge is can't code.

Actually, making a game in Java isn't hard. MMOs are just a lot harder than 1 player games and a lot more work.

 

[Savage]

Little Java knowledge is can't code.

Actually, making a game in Java isn't hard. MMOs are just a lot harder than 1 player games and a lot more work.

Well, you're right about one thing Moorga. Indeed I said that, but if you had that brain of yours working, you could have easily figured out that I was talking about the original thread starter's skills, not the section as a whole. Because nowhere in that sentence or paragraph for that matter did I say this section cannot code Java. I'm saying most people in the Coder's section have more experience with it, excluding a few members here.

However, my java skills are only mediocre. I've picked up on a bit in the several months I've worked on developing servers. I'd love to make a game from scratch, but that requires a tremendous amount of effort, I don't have the java knowledge, and I'm already accustomed to the feel of Maplestory.

He is saying himself that he cannot code. So your argument does not prove anything. If you can code Java, why must you go out of your way to try and prove me wrong, when in the end, it is you that is wrong. The users in this section are so quick to get their feelings hurt and defend themselves, it's ridiculous.

 

[SSFM]

Let's not start another flamewar... I've seen how much the Maplestory section loves those. :]

Already being done, dude. It's called Renoria.

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Very interesting. I hadn't heard of it. But whether it's being done or not, who's to say someone else can't make one as well?

 

[scarlet12379]

Whats with all the hate =[ cant we all get along lmao. anyways good luck with this let us know if you get it done?

 

[CharlieBoy]

Already being done, dude. It's called Renoria.

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They aint based of odin source also its c++

 

[Junkers]

Alright lads don't be starting any trouble here, alrighty? No need for heated discussion, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[Moogra]

They aint based of odin source also its c++

it's Java

The users in this section are so quick to get their feelings hurt and defend themselves, it's ridiculous.

I haven't said anything about myself. Neither has anyone else here as you can see. But still, Savage, you are right for the most part. Perhaps the coders section has more experience with Java but I doubt many, if not nearly all are familiar with the OdinMS API.

SSFM, what you're doing is not possible without wz repacking. You can't get custom items.