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Okay, I'm posting this for discussion because we don't have any rules which define those terms, and yet we have people (even respectable people I know have done good work on staff)
What do you consider TV?
Are we talking about stuff that's broadcast on terrestrial only? Does cable and satellite count? In which countries, and if so why do internet streams not count? To what level? And why?
Here's the thing. Why is YouTube not TV? I don't have a TV set, or any means of receiving terrestrial signals. I don't have cable or satellite any more either because all those things are taxable, and the internet isn't, besides which, I can watch all the shows I can see on any of those, and a whole lot more besides on the internet, on-demand, when I want, where I want and how I want.
Additionally, we have a thread on "
What do you consider Film?
Again, I don't go to a theatre to watch feature length productions, and usually end up catching "films" on the internet. I used to use video rental for DVDs until I became a HD snob, I would have gone BlueRay but the internet is cheaper. Additionally, I watch a lot of "films" which premier on the internet, or in art-houses around the world and never come to a theatre anywhere near me.
What is definitively NOT?
I can accept that some YouTube videos are definitely not TV. Many traditional TV channels are airing their regular programming on YouTube, so I can't imagine that anyone discounts that. However home movies of my cat chasing a ball of string is almost certainly not. OTOH, Mr. T's "Worlds Craziest Fools" is almost entirely filled with clips from the YouTube, and claims to be TV!? So what do you think is "definitely not TV", and why?
I feel this line is getting painfully thin, and I just wonder what the consensus is among members between what is and is not TV, and / or Film.
When answering, remember what I will act upon, and to what extent, is likely to be governed by opinions expressed here. If it can lead to guidelines being updated, that would be great. However, I also see this line moving as time passes.
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which I'm not so sure about.What do you consider TV?
Are we talking about stuff that's broadcast on terrestrial only? Does cable and satellite count? In which countries, and if so why do internet streams not count? To what level? And why?
Here's the thing. Why is YouTube not TV? I don't have a TV set, or any means of receiving terrestrial signals. I don't have cable or satellite any more either because all those things are taxable, and the internet isn't, besides which, I can watch all the shows I can see on any of those, and a whole lot more besides on the internet, on-demand, when I want, where I want and how I want.
Additionally, we have a thread on "
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" which (as far as I can see) is aired on the internet first. (more traditional broadcasters may, I suppose re-air it, if they want) Nobody has complained that this is "off-topic"?What do you consider Film?
Again, I don't go to a theatre to watch feature length productions, and usually end up catching "films" on the internet. I used to use video rental for DVDs until I became a HD snob, I would have gone BlueRay but the internet is cheaper. Additionally, I watch a lot of "films" which premier on the internet, or in art-houses around the world and never come to a theatre anywhere near me.
What is definitively NOT?
I can accept that some YouTube videos are definitely not TV. Many traditional TV channels are airing their regular programming on YouTube, so I can't imagine that anyone discounts that. However home movies of my cat chasing a ball of string is almost certainly not. OTOH, Mr. T's "Worlds Craziest Fools" is almost entirely filled with clips from the YouTube, and claims to be TV!? So what do you think is "definitely not TV", and why?
I feel this line is getting painfully thin, and I just wonder what the consensus is among members between what is and is not TV, and / or Film.
When answering, remember what I will act upon, and to what extent, is likely to be governed by opinions expressed here. If it can lead to guidelines being updated, that would be great. However, I also see this line moving as time passes.