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Or I remember that, I was an active member. I didn't meant Kekomundo closed because of that. I was saying that the "Habbo Section of Keko was dying because of that" xDYou're not wrong Santoro, but there's something you missed, KekoMundo didn't die because of the lack of content, I was admin there and on the last days and it was just a decission from the owner, VeNeX, as we were having internal problems with the staff activity and he just took the decision of ending the project at that time.
It could be a small reason, but definitely not lack of content, as we had some other sections active, like Graphic Design, Programming, Offtopic, etc.
Cheers.
Most importantly - there isn't an up to date, bug free, feature full, noob friendly emulator released. Members coming here for the first time, with the dream to make their own hotel & learn how to code are finding it too difficult to get started and giving up.
I love how the usual response to people with no prior knowledge that wants to get into habbo retros is "if you can't program your own emulator from scratch in C you shouldn't have a hotel". Utter nonsense.
That's really true. When I was starting in this community, about 6 years ago, some "friends" that I met in this community was extremely arrogant with me. A guy from here that I was friend, simply haven't answer me when I asked for help several times or have asked if I'm stupid. This was pretty demotivating. But I didn't give up, I'm always learning and researching by myself, but a lot of guys gave up. Now I help a lot of guys from the brazilian community whenever I can.. There are a lot pseudo-developers, but there are people trying to evolve.I fully agree. The community is not supportive towards new members. In the past week or two I have returned back to the Habbo section and met 4 people who say they've been trying to get help for months but everyone thought they were a noob and wouldn't help.
If we're not letting new members in and pushing away current members, this section is sure to die.
If I understand correctly, you're saying that shenanigans releases duck up the community? Well I guess it's one of the many things that do. Sometimes that one stupid release contains something that others need though. Of course renaming emulators is a bad practice, but this community was build upon it and I guess we need to accept that it happens. If you compare the Habbo section with other sections on RZ, you'll realize that it's not that bad here: a relatively lot of activity going on, not many people that misbehave and a fair amount of experienced people still browsing (and lurking).
We all have our opinion on these things, this is mine
Edits
Personally I don't see anything wrong with people releasing or using an edit of an Emulator.
The original developer may be offended... but the edit may have features the original doesn't, and that's what the server owners need. If the original developer added these features then his version would be used instead.
They may have used it on their hotel, the hotel is closed, and now they're releasing the files so others can use it without having to configure and code custom features themselves.
Renames
Renames are disrespectful and pathetic. Claiming someone's work is yours is out of order and shouldn't be acceptable.
If you modified some codes or fixed a bug I think it's fair that you can put your own name in there somewhere and give credit to the original author. You're not entitled to rename the whole emulator.
Selling Emulator Edits
I think if someone put time into making a custom version of an Emulator they aren't forced to release it publicly and can sell it privately if they wish. I have the same opinion on hotel technician services. The servers that use it are making cash so why can't the hotel technician take some of that? It's some of their work being used?
The original emulator developer definitely has the right to be mad about this, but there's nothing he can do to stop that sale or get any of that money.
Leaking Emulators, Leaking nudes & Arguing
Completely immature and shameful behavior.
The reason our community is "dying"
I believe the reason the community is as people say "dying" is because a few things:
As @saamus said "they discuss and argue who is better and fight between themselves, they even sell and buy emulators and packs sending nudes, and leaks". This hostile behavior in the community has caused people to stop working with others in the community. In turn this has stopped collaboration projects.
The people on here with strong opinions on code quality & making money through Habbo are most active in the community, so it doesn't encourage people to release their work to a community of people who don't like them or have argued with them in the past.
Most importantly - there isn't an up to date, bug free, feature full, noob friendly emulator released. Members coming here for the first time, with the dream to make their own hotel & learn how to code are finding it too difficult to get started and giving up.
Agrreed.I agree with @Taiga, renames always gonna happen, you must understand our community invite many children to ingress this private server life and they still do not know anything about being respectful, i know some brazillian comunities and not all are living from copying content and rename, not all brazillians are scammers and have to live from other people content, probably someday in my life i have done some kind of rename also , but this is part of a personal character development, i've learn many in ragezone, but in the fact, i have many infractions in my account due my first behavior in ragezone, the angry i got due some xenophobical actions let my rage answer by me, the time makes me understand more about life and make some friends around the entire world now.