What keeps you coming back to RaGEZONE?

[marelegg]

MMOrpg development section,curiosity of whats new into sources,structures,and for other materials we need to learn and evolve each day !

Also here its an Cabal , Lineage and Archlord lover! Lets not forget the Shiaya and 12sky chronicles this are part of my childhood

 

[cypher]

MentaL keeps tagging so I come.

 

[MentaL]

MentaL keeps tagging so I come.

Not true cypher

 

[fallenfate]

I would like to see a resurgence in the Flyff section. It was a shame Ketchup decided to nuke the section and try to hijack the members. I was told that his site was offline and the new one is even worse? If only there was something I could do to urge those users to use RZ again.

Wow, wait, what? Hmm... I played Flyff back in the day. Maybe I need to locate some files and come back to moderate a little. Was a good bit of fun during the 2000-2005 random MMO surge. Good times.

What else I'd loooooove to play again is Drift City on a private server, just for the fun of it.

 

[Ron]

Why? Because old mod nuked the section by killing the downloads after he was declined a promotion. He in turn created another forum and put his content there to spite me. He turned out to be rather bitter.

A promotion...? To what? King/Queen of FlyFF?

Wow, wait, what? Hmm... I played Flyff back in the day. Maybe I need to locate some files and come back to moderate a little.

I think too many people confuse forum moderating with content curation.

For dev communities to thrive, they need a consistent group of people who:

1) Know the game binaries/source well, OR have good programming background and willingness to learn the game/contribute back.

2) Don't mind contributing thankless work to the community. Majority of people take and don't even click "Like" or say "thanks". Making people click like/reply just causes fake engagement. So you just accept the fact most people will take take take, and just let any natural engagement be more real and meaningful. If just one other person also gives back, it was worth it.

3) Lack of superiority complex. Big topic but one basic example: don't mind spending their own time to answer questions of people who are "lazy". This one is very important, because answering the questions instead of telling them "use search" builds SEO and makes it that much easier for others to find real answers, which in turn builds the community. There are many more subpoints, but the take-away is, everyone starts somewhere, be nice and help each other.


From my experience most people fall into #1 fairly easily. #2 kind of comes with the hobby.

However, #3 is more rare. And the problem is having #3 is what makes or breaks a community. If the community isn't openly helping each other, do you really have a community?

What else I'd loooooove to play again is Drift City on a private server, just for the fun of it.

I've worked with it back in the day, not recently though. There are servers out there & files are available if you want to run one yourself.

 

[MentaL]

To what? King/Queen of FlyFF?

Bradley was pretty friendly with Ketchup and Bradders was a good lad letting me know what he was doing. He wanted to become a super moderator and felt it was owed. His moderation was good at the time but he had a plan to try and get mods vouch for him. The promotions operate by a vote, he wasn't aware of this and when it was rejected I took the brunt and he decided to leave and took his toys.

I was taken a back a little. Although, I do see some merits to his frustration, such as the delay to Xenforo. During all of this, we were resolving local storage issues. We had no means to support a whole system dump as I needed additional storage. Once this was resolved, the conversion began and here we are. In hindsight, if he had waited a month he would have gotten what he wanted minus the promotion.

After a while, I extended an olive branch and tried to get him back on board but by now he created his own forum and was content on managing that. Would I let him return now? No.

Judging what I've seen and been told, I'm certain he realises this whole administration is a lot harder than he anticipated. You need to be level headed, neutral and without judgement. I can fail at times but having dedicated over 20 years of my life to the advancement of private servers and open source mmorpg development, I've learnt that in the end, the internet is what the internet does. In a world of crazy, us vs them, black vs white, here, at Ragezone, we are all one.

When people understand this, you can thrive. But of course you need a set of rules and principles.

Sorry for the wall of text.

 

[Ron]

Sorry for the wall of text.

Nah, the backstory is appreciated.

I found the site you are talking about and I see it is in the middle of a "rebuild" -- fresh software install with no content. So apparently the plans are going.... great?

It is a shame. Sounds like they were motivated and at least somewhat organized. At the end of the day it is rare to find people who are motivated enough to spend their own time to try and build a community that benefits other people for free. Of course you know that better than anyone.

Maybe he will turn around and shake your hand/apologize one day, so the Flyff community as a whole can benefit. But by the sounds of it, the ship has sailed.

 

[MentaL]

Nah, the backstory is appreciated.

I found the site you are talking about and I see it is in the middle of a "rebuild" -- fresh software install with no content. So apparently the plans are going.... great?

It is a shame. Sounds like they were motivated and at least somewhat organized. At the end of the day it is rare to find people who are motivated enough to spend their own time to try and build a community that benefits other people for free. Of course you know that better than anyone.

Maybe he will turn around and shake your hand/apologize one day, so the Flyff community as a whole can benefit. But by the sounds of it, the ship has sailed.

I believe the site previously was more "paywall". You needed to be a VIP to unlock content.

Top tip : never wipe your board, rebuild from the current structure. Someone close to me did this several times and in the end, they never returned.

 

[Ron]

I believe the site previously was more "paywall". You needed to be a VIP to unlock content.

Top tip : never wipe your board, rebuild from the current structure. Someone close to me did this several times and in the end, they never returned.

Trying to paywall everything makes the story make a lot more sense. RZ makes it look easy to build a development forum.

Never wipe your board... until faced with an expensive lawsuit.

Even you took the RF section down during codemaster days. I remember the pdf.

 

[MentaL]

codemaster

https://ragezone.com/downloads/dmca/Codemasters/

I've kept them all.

 

[bayley]

It's a habit for me. I check the forum now and then. 18 years and counting.

 

[Ron]

https://ragezone.com/downloads/dmca/Codemasters/

I've kept them all.

All? I've only gotten two.

You got the last laugh with CM. They spent all that money building up and defending RF Online IP... just for CCR to see how lucrative it was and yank licensing from them.

CodeMasters never touched publishing a MMO again after RF and ArchLord. They lost millions of dollars trying to build their own MMO, Dragon Empires, just for it to get tabled and never see the light of day.

 

[MentaL]

All? I've only gotten two.

You got the last laugh with CM. They spent all that money building up and defending RF Online IP... just for CCR to see how lucrative it was and yank licensing from them.

CodeMasters never touched publishing a MMO again after RF and ArchLord. They lost millions of dollars trying to build their own MMO, Dragon Empires, just for it to get tabled and never see the light of day.

Index of /downloads/dmca/

Historical archive.

There is a market for MMOs but it needs to be more simplified. New world I liked. Diablo on a grander scale would be epic. A modern lineage or legend of Mir. How about unreal engine version of Warcraft ?!

 

[Ron]

Index of /downloads/dmca/

Historical archive.

There is a market for MMOs but it needs to be more simplified. New world I liked. Diablo on a grander scale would be epic. A modern lineage or legend of Mir. How about unreal engine version of Warcraft ?!

Wtf was Zenimax Media mad about you streaming on Twitch in 2013? The rest are typical but that one seems a bit wild at face value. They actually took the time over a Twitch clip?


I don't think there is a market for "old school" MMOs anymore. Just a bunch of middle to old aged nostalgic adults. Kids' attention spans are too short.

"Diablo on a grander scale" is basically Path of Exile.

New World, you liked because they spent $30 million and had nothing in their way when it came to art budget. Their downfall was not money like everyone else, but not being certain about their own direction. The end result is a beautiful looking game with no actual core foundation to it. Basically it feels incomplete. Not to mention the poor attempt at security/QA causing economy breaking bugs on release. Now look at their concurrent players versus day one.

Too much risk to make a MMO. Coding it is easy. Putting art and a story behind it, and then marketing it to people in a way that catches on... if I could figure that part out, I wouldn't still be messing with leaked server files for fun.

 

[MentaL]

Wtf was Zenimax Media mad about you streaming on Twitch in 2013? The rest are typical but that one seems a bit wild at face value. They actually took the time over a Twitch clip?

It was under NDA.

 

[kloklojul]

Index of /downloads/dmca/

Historical archive.

There is a market for MMOs but it needs to be more simplified. New world I liked. Diablo on a grander scale would be epic. A modern lineage or legend of Mir. How about unreal engine version of Warcraft ?!

LMAO at the maplestory one. Do you actually have to follow DMCAs or is ragezone hosted on that bunker-server-island?

 

[limacs]

Mu Online <3
i like mu forever

 

[Baha]

LMAO at the maplestory one. Do you actually have to follow DMCAs or is ragezone hosted on that bunker-server-island?

I'm curious about this too...

Index of /downloads/dmca/

Historical archive.

There is a market for MMOs but it needs to be more simplified. New world I liked. Diablo on a grander scale would be epic. A modern lineage or legend of Mir. How about unreal engine version of Warcraft ?!

How have you dodged all these bullets? lol

 

[Adult]

I'm curious about this too...


How have you dodged all these bullets? lol

Let's just say, the owner is absolutely mental.

 

[vashstaler]

I like to see what new game file releases.