Also, wth happened to the retro/habbo community, the busiest retro only has about 200 people online, back in the day the busiest hotel would easily have 1k online.
hi senpai.im donkjam, used to be a big part in this section back in the day about 5-10 year ago, id like to know peoples opinions on how much the scene has changed, is it for the better? do you prefer old school or what it is now\?
As much as I don't like Wesley the whole fiasco with arcturus & "arcturus morningstar" was shocking. Could've just created a competing implementation using the same database instead of stealing someone's code/IP.
People who want to be dicks will always find a way to be one. The easiest thing to do is to just take something you're proud of and mess with that. Meh its been a year and they're still dicking around in the old cold base and not really adding any features.
Sections not the same without you, I quit when you left, it was heart breakingim donkjam, used to be a big part in this section back in the day about 5-10 year ago, id like to know peoples opinions on how much the scene has changed, is it for the better? do you prefer old school or what it is now\?
im donkjam, used to be a big part in this section back in the day about 5-10 year ago, id like to know peoples opinions on how much the scene has changed, is it for the better? do you prefer old school or what it is now\?
As much as I don't like Wesley the whole fiasco with arcturus & "arcturus morningstar" was shocking. Could've just created a competing implementation using the same database instead of stealing someone's code/IP.
People who want to be dicks will always find a way to be one. The easiest thing to do is to just take something you're proud of and mess with that. Meh its been a year and they're still dicking around in the old cold base and not really adding any features.
Sections not the same without you, I quit when you left, it was heart breaking
if you quit while you were ahead you wouldn't have got locked up for selling e crack to kidsSections not the same without you, I quit when you left, it was heart breaking
You could of avoided a lot of trouble if you really did quit when Donkjam did tbh.
if you quit while you were ahead you wouldn't have got locked up for selling e crack to kids
when otaku shutdown a part of me died
Yep it still is. Up to version 1.9.0. Its perfectly fine to base your work of that version. Its not fine to steal & decompile closed source code. It was just closed as people where threatening to rename it and the contributions slacked off. Anyone who was still interested in contributing would still be able to do so if they had contacted me. I do recognize the effort that people have put into Arcturus while it was open source, and while not every contribution has ended up there I appreciate the willingness from others to actually contribute instead of keyboard warrioring hurr durr arcturus bad brrrtBut more importantly, Arcturus is GPL licensed, it is literally within everyone's rights to fork the damn thing, if he doesn't like it, he needs to get over using the wrong software license. I think I even warned him about his license on his development thread.
I dont know you, never talked to you outside the forums and your comments have always been negative towards my development thread. Hence why you've been on my ignored list for 5 years. Don't pretend to be a saint and that all your issues with me is my fault. They're your issues.This coming from the guy whom I literally tried to mend ways with a few times,
Arcturus is badly written and is a collection of bad practices for 3 years of development without any refactoring. I've said it numerous times why you shouldn't base your work on Arcturus and take something else that has been released as open source, like butterfly, and has been properly coded, like butterfly.Looking at your code there is literally 0 reason for your nasty attitude my friend.
No. What you did is take other people's work, and profit to the figure of multiple tens of thousands of dollars.
What you did is scam youth out of their pocket money.
What you did is profit of somebody else's work.
Yep it still is. Up to version 1.9.0. Its perfectly fine to base your work of that version. Its not fine to steal & decompile closed source code. It was just closed as people where threatening to rename it and the contributions slacked off. Anyone who was still interested in contributing would still be able to do so if they had contacted me. I do recognize the effort that people have put into Arcturus while it was open source, and while not every contribution has ended up there I appreciate the willingness from others to actually contribute instead of keyboard warrioring hurr durr arcturus bad brrrt
Inb4 you cannot close so open source code: Yes you can.
I dont know you, never talked to you outside the forums and your comments have always been negative towards my development thread. Hence why you've been on my ignored list for 5 years. Don't pretend to be a saint and that all your issues with me is my fault. They're your issues.
Arcturus is badly written and is a collection of bad practices for 3 years of development without any refactoring. I've said it numerous times why you shouldn't base your work on Arcturus and take something else that has been released as open source, like butterfly, and has been properly coded, like butterfly.
Someone sold that work to him. It was not stolen without permission. There were at the time plenty of alternatives to phoenix. And if you think back then alternatives were lacking you should've picked up the time to work on a free emulator.
inb4 yeah you sold beny your decompiled & rebuildable as3 source so he has the right to release it; We had the agreement that he could not release it / open source it and only use it for his own projects.
Apart from us all growing up, beginning to work and somewhat lose interest in our childhood hobbies. I think the main issue at hand hasn't been the lack of development within the community, it's the lack of features and/or development that's happened on the client of Habbo since 2018. There's hotels which look identical to what's being ran currently on Habbo.com but are two years behind on revisions and to the common person they wouldn't know the difference between the late 2018 client to the current 2020 client.
Apart from the tweaking of performance, creating new developments with new languages which are more common or relate to those who actively develop as a hobby, there really hasn't been a demand or need for active community development since the new flash client beta days. I remember us all puzzling away at the flash client, each working different parts to crack the secretbanner they implemented. Since then, apart from packet reshuffles every revision they publish, there hasn't been any major client changes worth keeping up to date with apart from crafting which isn't a feature deemed worthy for a retro when you can just buy the item rather than crafting it.
I guess some are actively looking out for the new client which Habbo have mentioned, but I imagine due to the staffing team they now have vs what they had they've probably not actually changed any networking behind the client rather it's just built on a new base so they can get people logged in from their desktops. I would love to know the ratio of people that now play Habbo casually from their tablets and/or phones vs logging on to their laptops or desktops.
Trouble? Locked up? Dunno what you guys think happened to me but at no point was I locked up or arrested lol.
I miss Otaku too and I miss working on Phoenix. I was reading through some of my old threads on here yesterday getting all nostalgic.
I have no regrets though, apart from being too public about who I actually was haha. I'm a full time web developer for a big company now and I have Habbo and those first v1 releases to thank for that. Life is good man and Otaku and Phoenix were an amazing experience to learn from and I made some amazing friends in real life from it too.
I did some poop bag things in the past but so did most people here, we were young and dumb. If you still have ill feelings toward me that's sad but I won't lose sleep over it. I contributed a whole section of my youth to this and even though some people like to blame me for making development stale I'd argue that's not really my fault, those that wanted to develop could have developed, if anything, I brought retros to the mainstream.
I've said it numerous times why you shouldn't base your work on Arcturus and take something else that has been released as open source, like butterfly, and has been properly coded, like butterfly.
If you want my advise: humility is key to being a good developer. We all make mistakes, all of us, not because we're bad, but because we're human.
Its not fine to steal & decompile closed source code. It was just closed as people where threatening to rename it and the contributions slacked off.
100% man. I wish I still had my old sources to look at but I know for a fact that they'll be awful too. I learned a hell of a lot but doing it professionally makes you wake up to so many good practices that I should have got into a long time ago.bfly was not properly coded. It was poorly maintained and much of the focus I had on it while I worked on it was optimizing it and fixing bugs. At the time, I knew pretty much nothing about software design and architecture. I had some ideas, but there were many things I did not know or hadn't been introduced to yet. There are so many code smells/anti-patterns in bfly. God classes, lack of separation of concerns, huge functions, static everywhere, entirely untestable, just to mention a few flaws in the code. The code-base just reeks legacy when I open it now. I am still proud that I made bfly which had such an impact on the retro community, but it does have its flaws. It is regardless no good example of any well-written piece of software.