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charlie: Hello! How may I help you?
Visitor95098: Hello I'm George Davies im founder of DigitalSilicon Technologies
charlie: hi
charlie: George
charlie: how are you doing
Visitor95098: Would you kindly tell me about your Hosting Packages, mainly FreeBSD
charlie: sure
charlie: what do you need to know?
Visitor95098: Does it come with a warrantee that none of my users can access my root system?
charlie: it is more secure than windows let's say
charlie: and,yes,they cannot
Visitor95098: so your saying windows is a bad choice and freebsd is the best alternative when it comes down to hosting websites and possible giving a few of my employees user access, but restrict them privilages will gurantee they wont be able to access my root system
charlie: i am saying Linux is more secure than Windows
charlie: and your emplyees will have the access you give them
charlie: only you will have root acces,though
Visitor95098: yes but linux is not freebsd
charlie: FreeBSD is based on it
Visitor95098: and a friend of mine proof of concept actualy was able to access his root using a normal user account with a kernal exploit... how can i stop this happening?
charlie: well,now,i am not much of a tech guy
charlie: cannot say really
Visitor95098: linux is based on BSD and freebsd is also based on BSD
charlie: is that a statement?
Visitor95098: no its a fact
Visitor95098: look i am worried that if i buy your freebsd package that u obviously have no idea of what your selling that my employee with user access will root my system and steal all my valued documents, it feels like i cant trust Cedant Hosting plan
charlie: ok
charlie: i can assist you in signing up and I have pretty good idea of what we offer
charlie: but I do not use FreeBSD and it is 3rd party software
charlie: if you like
charlie: write to [email protected]
charlie: put in subject - pre-sale question
charlie: and ask them this
Visitor95098: wait
charlie: ok
Visitor95098: ok i can talk now.. my employee's have been known to defance and even ruin buisnesses however they are skilled partners of mine and i trust them not to hack me
charlie: ok,what is your line of work?
Visitor95098: DigitalSilicon Technologies
charlie: yes,right
Visitor95098: i am the founder of and i want to buy hosting, so i want to know the risks
charlie: so they hack other people but not you?
Visitor95098: they have told me that they can , and want me to get reliable hosting if that makes sense to you?
charlie: yes,but you cannot be afraid of hackers all the time
charlie: i mean there is nothing full proof
Visitor95098: yes but if you knew them you could'nt sleep at night
Visitor95098: so the solution is , do i trust Cedant for this hosting or do i move on to a more respectful host?
charlie: what do you mean by respectful,George
charlie: everybody offers 3rd party software
charlie: there is no complete security in the business
charlie: you know that
Visitor95098: I mean, I heard of better services, real hackers maintaining their boxes to ensure you cannot be hacked
charlie: you mean 1 hacker makes a business
charlie: how do you compare 1 hacker with our datacentre?
Visitor95098: normaly they are employed by big firms and their job is to keep their service free from other hackers.
charlie: well,i can assure you we take care o our security
charlie: otherwise we would not have been able to maintain a data centee
charlie: centre*
Visitor95098: can you gurantee, can you offer a testing ground for possible one of my employees to proove to me that your hosting is not up to the standards, of which possibly a root-kit could ensure the fixing of.. by means of telling you whats wrong and securing it automaticaly
charlie: ok,you are asking for more than we ca initially provide
charlie: tell you what
charlie: get our package and there is a 30 days money back guaranee
Visitor95098: I understand that, but without going into my credit card's and having to waste time, is there possibly a SSH client i can login to as a guest member?
charlie: no,i am afraid not
Visitor95098: so you offer no means of demonstrating your services to weary customers like myself.. how thoughtful.. i cant believe this >.<
charlie: George,i don't mean to disrespect,but you are too weary
charlie: + you do not lose anything if you try
Visitor95098: I am a very busy man, i have no time for messing about with credit card's and then have my friend comit an illegal activity off which would be putting him at high risk of being prosecuted by Cedant, and to ensure this the only way is for a test ground.
charlie: i understand
Visitor95098: im sure a man of your inteligance would understand the need for this, why Cedant doesnt offer this is beyond me... can you hook me up with someone I can talk to , e-mails are to slow for my liking and your suppose to help right.
Visitor95098: Are you not going to talk?
Visitor95098: I guess we have reached the end of your free time.
charlie: no,we have not
Visitor95098: >.<
charlie: and you are right
charlie: i am here to help
charlie: but you are asking me to offer you something we do not offer
Visitor95098: then can you sort it out for me, a demonstration of your freebsd or possibly linux services
charlie: George,i understand that you are a busy man and all so I will not waste your time
charlie: only an email to our tech support
charlie: will do the job
charlie: if you like i can write it
Visitor95098: Will you ? that will be most kind
charlie: ok,i will need your email address then
charlie: so that i can answer
Visitor95098: i have a hotmail email address as i no longer have hosting web mail accounts will that do?
charlie: sure
charlie: i need a way to reach you
Visitor95098: ok thank you.... is a bit cheesy as im into metal music , at 32 you'd probably be suprised
Visitor95098: [email protected]
charlie:
Visitor95098: how long for a reply
charlie: i will receive it today and forward it to you
Visitor95098: thank you... also sorry i must of taken much of your time
charlie: no worries
charlie: i am here to help,remember
Visitor95098: may i ask, where are you situated?
charlie: yes
charlie: we are in San Diego,CA
Visitor95098: Cool... is this an alternative to a call center... for your job.
charlie: it is a building where all our computers,stuff,offices - everything is
Visitor95098: it has its own building or is it part of many company's that are built up to make one huge sky scapper type of thing?
charlie: it is ours yes
Visitor95098: do you get a bit offended at the logo with that headpiece on a dummy's head.. i would be serious considering telling the web designer to possible replace it with your image.
charlie:
charlie: doesn't really bother me
Visitor95098: What do you people do to ensure that your not part of a wind up... i cant see the likelyness of this free service being 100% used as it was intended.... wouldn't be worth me runnign this on any future project website's right?
charlie: i guess
Visitor95098: you must be paid to do this right? .. i wouldnt offer myself for free
charlie:
charlie: good guess
Visitor95098: how did you get to know Cedant and get this job.. also didnt it put you off?
charlie: put me off?
Visitor95098: from speaking to total strangers with high risk of them being absolutly stupid to you on here?
charlie: oh,well,i like communicating
Visitor95098: but surely, communicating in person is alot more relaxing, sitting around all day gets nobody a girlfriend right?
charlie:
charlie: you're quite right
Visitor95098: so is there girls in your office or somthing, that one girl you want in your bed at the end of the shift :/
charlie: what kind of business question is this?
Visitor95098: it's not i was being friendly... plus it's somthing to think about . look around see whats about while ur working
charlie: have don that
Visitor95098: any 'possible shags'?
charlie: let's not get too friendly,shall we
Visitor95098: i guess ur right man
Visitor95098: rude of me, if you knew me i guess in person you would of accepted that as a joke
charlie: i know
charlie: one secret
charlie: this chat is monitored
Visitor95098: with criminal convinctions and ip logging and everything?
charlie: no,mostly to keep an eye on what we sales people say or how we answer
Visitor95098: oh right... I undestand... by the way u just got pwned by x31
have a good day... u can still send that email I'd love a demo box hehe... laters man im tired need sleep 
charlie: have a good one
Visitor95098: will do niggaz \m/
// Charlie G got pwned by X31 (Visitor95098) on their live chat at http://www.cedant.com/
// Credits goes to Nightwolfz for the heads up on the live chat
// Special shout out to e1f and p0ke..(that p0ke dude needs a drink hehe)
// x31 - [email protected]
Visitor95098: Hello I'm George Davies im founder of DigitalSilicon Technologies
charlie: hi
charlie: George
charlie: how are you doing
Visitor95098: Would you kindly tell me about your Hosting Packages, mainly FreeBSD
charlie: sure
charlie: what do you need to know?
Visitor95098: Does it come with a warrantee that none of my users can access my root system?
charlie: it is more secure than windows let's say
charlie: and,yes,they cannot
Visitor95098: so your saying windows is a bad choice and freebsd is the best alternative when it comes down to hosting websites and possible giving a few of my employees user access, but restrict them privilages will gurantee they wont be able to access my root system
charlie: i am saying Linux is more secure than Windows
charlie: and your emplyees will have the access you give them
charlie: only you will have root acces,though
Visitor95098: yes but linux is not freebsd
charlie: FreeBSD is based on it
Visitor95098: and a friend of mine proof of concept actualy was able to access his root using a normal user account with a kernal exploit... how can i stop this happening?
charlie: well,now,i am not much of a tech guy
charlie: cannot say really
Visitor95098: linux is based on BSD and freebsd is also based on BSD
charlie: is that a statement?
Visitor95098: no its a fact
Visitor95098: look i am worried that if i buy your freebsd package that u obviously have no idea of what your selling that my employee with user access will root my system and steal all my valued documents, it feels like i cant trust Cedant Hosting plan
charlie: ok
charlie: i can assist you in signing up and I have pretty good idea of what we offer
charlie: but I do not use FreeBSD and it is 3rd party software
charlie: if you like
charlie: write to [email protected]
charlie: put in subject - pre-sale question
charlie: and ask them this
Visitor95098: wait
charlie: ok
Visitor95098: ok i can talk now.. my employee's have been known to defance and even ruin buisnesses however they are skilled partners of mine and i trust them not to hack me
charlie: ok,what is your line of work?
Visitor95098: DigitalSilicon Technologies
charlie: yes,right
Visitor95098: i am the founder of and i want to buy hosting, so i want to know the risks
charlie: so they hack other people but not you?
Visitor95098: they have told me that they can , and want me to get reliable hosting if that makes sense to you?
charlie: yes,but you cannot be afraid of hackers all the time
charlie: i mean there is nothing full proof
Visitor95098: yes but if you knew them you could'nt sleep at night
Visitor95098: so the solution is , do i trust Cedant for this hosting or do i move on to a more respectful host?
charlie: what do you mean by respectful,George
charlie: everybody offers 3rd party software
charlie: there is no complete security in the business
charlie: you know that
Visitor95098: I mean, I heard of better services, real hackers maintaining their boxes to ensure you cannot be hacked
charlie: you mean 1 hacker makes a business
charlie: how do you compare 1 hacker with our datacentre?
Visitor95098: normaly they are employed by big firms and their job is to keep their service free from other hackers.
charlie: well,i can assure you we take care o our security
charlie: otherwise we would not have been able to maintain a data centee
charlie: centre*
Visitor95098: can you gurantee, can you offer a testing ground for possible one of my employees to proove to me that your hosting is not up to the standards, of which possibly a root-kit could ensure the fixing of.. by means of telling you whats wrong and securing it automaticaly
charlie: ok,you are asking for more than we ca initially provide
charlie: tell you what
charlie: get our package and there is a 30 days money back guaranee
Visitor95098: I understand that, but without going into my credit card's and having to waste time, is there possibly a SSH client i can login to as a guest member?
charlie: no,i am afraid not
Visitor95098: so you offer no means of demonstrating your services to weary customers like myself.. how thoughtful.. i cant believe this >.<
charlie: George,i don't mean to disrespect,but you are too weary
charlie: + you do not lose anything if you try
Visitor95098: I am a very busy man, i have no time for messing about with credit card's and then have my friend comit an illegal activity off which would be putting him at high risk of being prosecuted by Cedant, and to ensure this the only way is for a test ground.
charlie: i understand
Visitor95098: im sure a man of your inteligance would understand the need for this, why Cedant doesnt offer this is beyond me... can you hook me up with someone I can talk to , e-mails are to slow for my liking and your suppose to help right.
Visitor95098: Are you not going to talk?
Visitor95098: I guess we have reached the end of your free time.
charlie: no,we have not
Visitor95098: >.<
charlie: and you are right
charlie: i am here to help
charlie: but you are asking me to offer you something we do not offer
Visitor95098: then can you sort it out for me, a demonstration of your freebsd or possibly linux services
charlie: George,i understand that you are a busy man and all so I will not waste your time
charlie: only an email to our tech support
charlie: will do the job
charlie: if you like i can write it
Visitor95098: Will you ? that will be most kind
charlie: ok,i will need your email address then
charlie: so that i can answer
Visitor95098: i have a hotmail email address as i no longer have hosting web mail accounts will that do?
charlie: sure
charlie: i need a way to reach you
Visitor95098: ok thank you.... is a bit cheesy as im into metal music , at 32 you'd probably be suprised
Visitor95098: [email protected]
charlie:
Visitor95098: how long for a reply
charlie: i will receive it today and forward it to you
Visitor95098: thank you... also sorry i must of taken much of your time
charlie: no worries
charlie: i am here to help,remember
Visitor95098: may i ask, where are you situated?
charlie: yes
charlie: we are in San Diego,CA
Visitor95098: Cool... is this an alternative to a call center... for your job.
charlie: it is a building where all our computers,stuff,offices - everything is
Visitor95098: it has its own building or is it part of many company's that are built up to make one huge sky scapper type of thing?
charlie: it is ours yes
Visitor95098: do you get a bit offended at the logo with that headpiece on a dummy's head.. i would be serious considering telling the web designer to possible replace it with your image.
charlie:
charlie: doesn't really bother me
Visitor95098: What do you people do to ensure that your not part of a wind up... i cant see the likelyness of this free service being 100% used as it was intended.... wouldn't be worth me runnign this on any future project website's right?
charlie: i guess
Visitor95098: you must be paid to do this right? .. i wouldnt offer myself for free
charlie:
charlie: good guess
Visitor95098: how did you get to know Cedant and get this job.. also didnt it put you off?
charlie: put me off?
Visitor95098: from speaking to total strangers with high risk of them being absolutly stupid to you on here?
charlie: oh,well,i like communicating
Visitor95098: but surely, communicating in person is alot more relaxing, sitting around all day gets nobody a girlfriend right?
charlie:
charlie: you're quite right
Visitor95098: so is there girls in your office or somthing, that one girl you want in your bed at the end of the shift :/
charlie: what kind of business question is this?
Visitor95098: it's not i was being friendly... plus it's somthing to think about . look around see whats about while ur working
charlie: have don that
Visitor95098: any 'possible shags'?
charlie: let's not get too friendly,shall we
Visitor95098: i guess ur right man
Visitor95098: rude of me, if you knew me i guess in person you would of accepted that as a joke
charlie: i know
charlie: one secret
charlie: this chat is monitored
Visitor95098: with criminal convinctions and ip logging and everything?
charlie: no,mostly to keep an eye on what we sales people say or how we answer
Visitor95098: oh right... I undestand... by the way u just got pwned by x31
have a good day... u can still send that email I'd love a demo box hehe... laters man im tired need sleep charlie: have a good one
Visitor95098: will do niggaz \m/
// Charlie G got pwned by X31 (Visitor95098) on their live chat at http://www.cedant.com/
// Credits goes to Nightwolfz for the heads up on the live chat
// Special shout out to e1f and p0ke..(that p0ke dude needs a drink hehe)
// x31 - [email protected]
