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This is the Story about scamming from admyuan.
He always say people with initial "n" is scammer. But the true is,admyuan is scammer.
He Recommend to me he's friend name Anna Katrina Perez. Who developing RF 2.2.4 with low Price,11 Maps,Costume for Lv.80.
Anna Katrina Perez is friend of admyuan give to me..
Anna Katrina Perez say he Developing much RF..The truth is he stole a map Screen from RF-*n* for make we believe he's developing RF-File.
He say just take 30minutes for move File into 2.2.4...
Admyuan say he's rf product by Anna Katrina Perez make..
Admyuan make me believe first time.He help me to Setting my RF because getting ERROR for AppServ,and other ERROR.. He Try to help.. But at last he Recommend me into people who make me getting Scam....
I will Update my Photo of Send money with Western Union. and Update it in here..
maybe it'll be an useful information (or nonsense at all)
I think blackfritz got more information than me since he was the one who got asked everytime by yuan.
Fritz told me that admyuan want to develope also in our RF and want to help. He also said that he could fix our guild bug here: http://forum.ragezone.com/f152/right-anyone-db-related-error-869421/
Which even no expert RF could fix it here (we aren't fixing it also, we are too desperate, so we do a clean wipe).
Yeah that person who introduced himself as admyuan appears from nowhere to my forum chatbox, asking my players who is the owner of my server, then he pm-ed me and trying to give me help for my problems..
anything goes fine until i ask him about hackshield and he pointed me to use CERBERUS GAME GUARD, which he claims created by his friend Anna, here is my email log with cerberus.company@yahoo.com:
Me:
hi, im fritz, i would like to see the preview of cerberus gameguard (screenshot is ok), and I would like to know if this gameguard was used by other RF.
Cerberus Gamer:
Hello Mr.Fritz im Anna cerberus team before i will make screenshot about gameguard this gameguard is so sensitive if someone see use CE or other 3PP the player account got banned so i will ask to you if you really wan't to buy or not?
Me:
hello, i'm not really want to buy it if I don't know what that thing do, I don't even know the exact price.. to be honest I'm still searching a good gameguard that suits my 2.1.6 server, so I cannot say that I will buy it until i sure it suits my server
Cerberus Gamer:
You mean programm first before money?Sir we are company not leecher.Cerberus fit to all game like MU RAGNAROK L2 RF version not issue to my gameguard cause this gameguard have fix database can fit automaticaly in your server.
Me:
I mean I need to know what it did (list of things it does, screenshot, etc), so I cannot get screenshot because I haven't decided to buy it? well I personally don't have any experience in any gameguard, I don't know why my amateurity is being humiliated like this
Cerberus Gamer:
Well i give screenshot give me a second
she said the price is 200$, and then i found much better hackshield which cheaper than that (just imagine what happen if i paid 200$ to her, damn i was saved that time.. pm me for more information about my hackshield, i'll refer you to the HS maker)
anyway here is my latest chat with him
Me says
hi
long time no see
Yuan Manalo says
lol
i make customize
2.2.4
with 4maps
for now
buzy to collecting
more maps
LOL
i know some ppl may think this post too frontal and need some censor, or maybe this post lack of information about the scammer? just tell me and i edit it right away
The sad thing is i was the one who helped him add those maps since he claimed he had paid some one for them and they were not working. Just make sure the people you deal with are genuine. Those screenshots don't really show much it can be easily created to seem like its real.
I always advice people to get trial versions of the things they buying or have the seller use a test server you can experiment and test on.
Never allow them to use another server and claim the work they have on it is theirs if your unsure contact the owner and ask them directly. Do some background work don't just take things at face value.
i don't know why that guys still wandering around. anyone could report it to ragezone admin team to ban him or do anything on him to stop the community getting BS?
just bumping this old thread so the community knows what they are dealing with that stupid cerberus or whatsoever.
Just a side note to everybody, never trust developers from Philippines, I'm not being racist , in my defense i am also a Filipino, but I know for the fact that Philippines is not a place where you can find Game Developers, if you can , it's one in a million, it's either they learned developing from leaching or , they studied outside the country, This Yuan is "mentally retarded" and i like call him that because he thinks he knows stuff but actually he don't , we raided his server and hack the hell out of it, im not pro on those things but you can get the logic that if a noob can break thru your files, then your not qualified to be a developer(just an opinion of my own) , if you guys can report this to the Philippine media that this could be dealt with easily to put him into shame,so he won't even dare to do it again. Banning him is 1 thing , but dang i would love to give this guy a straight punch in the face , break his nose make him bleed to death.
At the end of the everybody is happy apart from him.
Hello peeps, I'm 1 of the admin from the RF you mentioned, and this case has brought attention to us, and I'm afraid it will hurt our name, so at this point I'm feeling very sorry for the thread starter, if you've been somewhat scammed by that Yuan, however, I can assure you that we never know that guy exist as staff / related on our server, we do noticed it abit, but we don't really bring that since he doesn't puts a threat to us, until this point we noticed, we still have proof that we and him are unlinked to one toward another.
This is a chat from the owner with him:
IM Oct 19, 2012 1:02:44 PM
12:47:00 PM julia+propeller: hey
12:47:04 PM julia+propeller: im yuan manalo
12:47:06 PM julia+propeller: in the group
12:57:01 PM admin RF *n*: hello juan
12:57:12 PM julia+propeller: can i add you?
12:57:17 PM admin RF *n*: sure go ahead
12:58:31 PM julia+propeller: are you owner?
12:58:38 PM admin RF *n*: yes i am
12:58:42 PM julia+propeller: oh
12:58:48 PM julia+propeller: well im a dev of 2.2.4
12:59:03 PM admin RF *n*: oh.. what PS you developed?
12:59:25 PM julia+propeller: rf gamerla
12:59:32 PM julia+propeller: and i help rf xtreme
12:59:57 PM admin RF *n*: i see...
1:00:04 PM admin RF *n*: are you friend of Ken?
1:00:31 PM admin RF *n*: what part did u do on dev RF 2.2.4?
1:00:47 PM julia+propeller: well
1:00:50 PM julia+propeller: i make customize item
1:00:53 PM julia+propeller: i have 20maps
1:01:00 PM julia+propeller: make new donate mau keys
1:01:04 PM julia+propeller: new donate animus
1:01:08 PM julia+propeller: new donate sk
1:01:17 PM julia+propeller: and armor with weapon with elems
1:01:30 PM julia+propeller: i have gameguard cerberus
1:01:35 PM julia+propeller: and i have gamecp too
1:02:05 PM admin RF *n*: are you still active in rf gamerla or rf xtreme at the moment?
1:02:36 PM julia+propeller: actually not
1:02:43 PM julia+propeller: cause im only develope it
1:02:44 PM julia+propeller: lol
IM Oct 19, 2012 1:11:34 PM
1:03:01 PM admin RF *n*: hahaha i see
1:03:08 PM julia+propeller: im not play rf
1:03:11 PM julia+propeller: only develope
1:03:12 PM julia+propeller: lol
1:03:18 PM admin RF *n*: ic
1:04:07 PM julia+propeller: why?
1:04:16 PM admin RF *n*: just asking...
1:04:44 PM julia+propeller: well im find some server
1:04:47 PM julia+propeller: that can i apply
1:05:06 PM admin RF *n*: well we have our own development team atm, but we also might need additional developer...
1:05:29 PM admin RF *n*: unfortunatel, since we still starting, we cant affort to hire someone
1:05:53 PM admin RF *n*: our budget is still limited
1:06:02 PM julia+propeller: lol
1:06:05 PM julia+propeller: you dont need
1:06:06 PM julia+propeller: pay me
1:06:08 PM julia+propeller:
1:06:17 PM julia+propeller: my indo files
1:07:30 PM admin RF *n*: nice map you have there
1:07:38 PM admin RF *n*: this is your custom maps?
1:08:15 PM julia+propeller: yup
1:08:23 PM julia+propeller: you dont need pay me
1:08:23 PM julia+propeller:
1:08:28 PM julia+propeller: pay me after you have money
1:08:29 PM julia+propeller:
1:08:58 PM admin RF *n*: hahaha i c
1:09:18 PM admin RF *n*: so when i have some money to pay you, how much do you ask?
1:09:35 PM julia+propeller: 100$ only
1:10:38 PM admin RF *n*: 100$ for maps and customs items that you made right?
1:11:31 PM julia+propeller: yeah
1:11:34 PM julia+propeller: only for that
IM Oct 19, 2012 1:18:31 PM
1:11:39 PM admin RF *n*: i assume you developed the files on your machine then send those files to us (with instructions)
1:11:49 PM julia+propeller: yup
1:12:19 PM julia+propeller: why?
1:12:25 PM julia+propeller: i have gamecp too
1:12:28 PM julia+propeller: lisence
1:12:31 PM julia+propeller: and gameguard
1:12:33 PM julia+propeller: if you want
1:12:34 PM julia+propeller: i will give it
1:12:36 PM julia+propeller: 100$ only
1:12:43 PM julia+propeller: gamecp and gameguard unlimited lisence
1:13:02 PM admin RF *n*: is that gamecp include GM CP too?
1:13:07 PM admin RF *n*: like ban someone
1:14:09 PM julia+propeller: yup
1:14:19 PM julia+propeller: have ban
1:14:22 PM julia+propeller: add item to DB
1:14:24 PM julia+propeller: vote system
1:14:32 PM julia+propeller: administrator tools
1:14:35 PM julia+propeller: gm panel
1:14:37 PM julia+propeller:
1:15:50 PM admin RF *n*: thats a nice one...
1:16:05 PM admin RF *n*: i will discuss it with everyone on the team
1:16:12 PM admin RF *n*: i will let you know later..
1:16:35 PM admin RF *n*: can you send me those maps in rar or zip?
1:17:29 PM admin RF *n*: oh nevermind
1:17:35 PM admin RF *n*: i can save them from here
1:18:07 PM admin RF *n*: give me time to talk with them. i will let you know in 2 days
1:18:21 PM julia+propeller: ok
1:18:22 PM julia+propeller:
1:18:30 PM julia+propeller: what map
1:18:31 PM julia+propeller: do you have?
IM Oct 19, 2012 1:21:10 PM
1:18:39 PM julia+propeller: you have new map i see in your site
1:18:52 PM admin RF *n*: yes but not all from your maps
1:18:55 PM admin RF *n*: i only have some
1:19:10 PM julia+propeller: what map you have
1:19:12 PM julia+propeller: can you tell me?
1:19:30 PM admin RF *n*: one that i know is elfsky
1:19:46 PM julia+propeller: oh
1:19:47 PM julia+propeller: you want
1:19:49 PM julia+propeller: i will job
1:19:52 PM julia+propeller: to your server now
1:19:53 PM julia+propeller: dont pay yet
1:20:37 PM admin RF *n*: give me time to discuss with others first, then i will let you know
1:20:47 PM admin RF *n*:
1:21:02 PM julia+propeller: well ok
1:21:10 PM julia+propeller: cause i dont need money yet
IM Oct 19, 2012 8:05:31 PM
7:44:13 PM julia+propeller: hows going on?
7:45:16 PM admin RF *n*: currently the server is ready for public play, so I let members to try it
8:01:39 PM julia+propeller: hmm ok
8:01:49 PM julia+propeller: you have elf sky only right
8:03:39 PM admin RF *n*: i have one map too, but i dont know what the name since Im not quite remember.
8:03:47 PM admin RF *n*: but i dont see it on your map pictures
8:05:31 PM julia+propeller: oh
IM Oct 19, 2012 9:45:12 PM
9:28:25 PM julia+propeller: sir mick
9:28:30 PM julia+propeller: can i apply to your serve
9:28:32 PM julia+propeller: r
9:28:33 PM julia+propeller: like gm
9:28:33 PM julia+propeller: ?
9:36:17 PM admin RF *n*: Unfortunately we already have 4 active GMs in our server. Once we open for GM position, I will let you know
9:36:27 PM julia+propeller: hmm
9:36:30 PM julia+propeller: can i have favor?
9:36:51 PM julia+propeller: if you dont mind
9:41:01 PM julia+propeller: sir?
9:41:28 PM admin RF *n*: sure yuan, what is it?
9:41:57 PM julia+propeller: can you make a gm name Rendra
9:42:00 PM julia+propeller: and go to your new map
9:42:09 PM julia+propeller: cause i will make my profile picture
9:43:12 PM admin RF *n*: hm sure, any race right?
9:43:14 PM admin RF *n*: but
9:43:19 PM admin RF *n*: i dont know where is my new map
9:43:27 PM julia+propeller: you dont know
9:43:28 PM admin RF *n*: because the developer once showed me
9:43:29 PM julia+propeller: what is the code?
9:43:44 PM admin RF *n*: i dont remember because i dont play much.. lol
9:44:11 PM julia+propeller: but you can use
9:44:12 PM julia+propeller: your
9:44:13 PM admin RF *n*: i will ask my developers and make a picture with my new map
9:44:15 PM julia+propeller: gm command ?
9:44:20 PM julia+propeller: ok thanks
9:44:26 PM julia+propeller: i hope i can get it now
9:44:26 PM julia+propeller:
9:44:38 PM admin RF *n*: let me see them ingame
9:45:12 PM julia+propeller: ok i will give the code
9:46:31 PM admin RF *n*: its multion disel, and after i see the picture that you sent me
9:46:37 PM admin RF *n*: it seems you have it also
9:46:52 PM admin RF *n*: but i dont explore much of those new map because its huge
9:46:58 PM admin RF *n*: so thats why i dont remember
9:47:02 PM julia+propeller: well i need print screen
9:47:06 PM julia+propeller: in the map only
9:47:14 PM admin RF *n*: what map do you want?
9:47:18 PM admin RF *n*: only elfskymap?
9:48:00 PM julia+propeller: elfsky and musel diesel if you want
9:52:37 PM admin RF *n*: give me best coord for musel diesel
9:52:42 PM admin RF *n*: and the command as well
9:52:53 PM julia+propeller: wait
9:53:06 PM julia+propeller: 1 1 1
9:57:57 PM julia+propeller: its ok now?
IM Oct 19, 2012 10:35:53 PM
10:15:50 PM admin RF *n*: are these enough?
10:27:44 PM julia+propeller: the map
10:27:47 PM julia+propeller: dont have monster?
10:28:59 PM admin RF *n*: not yet atm, we are working on it atm
10:31:53 PM julia+propeller: ok
10:32:04 PM julia+propeller: i can help you up
10:32:07 PM julia+propeller: its free
10:35:29 PM admin RF *n*: thanks for your kind help, but the monster status is already 80%, so once we restart the server, the new monster should be up already
10:35:53 PM julia+propeller: ok
IM Oct 19, 2012 10:53:59 PM
10:49:05 PM julia+propeller: thats good
10:50:01 PM julia+propeller: can we trade map?
10:50:02 PM julia+propeller: if you want
10:50:09 PM julia+propeller: or files
10:53:49 PM admin RF *n*: uhm, in here, we have some rules in our team about giving our work files to outsider. So, this time, sorry I cant help you. Besides, I saw you have more maps than me, while I only have 2 maps that you actually already have
10:53:56 PM julia+propeller: oh ok
10:53:58 PM julia+propeller: its ok
10:53:59 PM julia+propeller:
And this is an explanation from the owner it self:
This guy, introduced himself as Yuan Manalo (YM ID: julia+propeller).
First, he appeared in our group, asking the owner of our server. Then he add my yahoo messenger and talk with me.
He tells me that he is developer of RF gamerla and RF extreme. At first, he showed me 11 new maps and he tell me he have those maps and want to add them at my server. He tell story to convince me that he is a developer of RF and have develop those servers. I then asked wheter he like to play RF, but he said he is only a developer.
Since our server is still fresh, we have a tight budget so I ask him how much does it cost. He told its only 100$. He even give a kind offer to me that I dont need to pay him now, that I can pay him later when I make some money. I thought it MIGHT be a good thing, but lucky for me, I have a very skilled teams with me developing my server so at the moment, i dont need any additional help.
So I kindly refuse his help, and he said OK since he dont need money yet.
Later, suddenly he asked me wheter he can join my team as GM. This time I start a bit curious. He at first tell me he didnt play RF, only develop, so why the heck he want to join as GM? Again I softly refuse him by saying we already have that position filled. Then he asked me a favor, which to login as my GM account, but have name as "Rendra" and have screen shot in new maps. Since I think it cost me no harm, then I do like he said, making accretian GM named "Rendra" and go to 2 of my new map, but I give him the print screen position where the monster didn't visible. When he said there is no monster, I just tell him, we working on putting monsters (the truth is I kinda lazy to search nearby monster since that area is very huge). He again offer me free service to make the monster show on that new map. Since we ACTUALLY have monsters in our maps, I softly refuse his offer. Then he suddenly asking something that I really didnt expected and make me even more curious. He asked me to trade map. My thoughts is: WTF he want to trade map with me while he as 11 maps showed to me and my maps are on the pictures that he showed? So I refuse him.
Thats it. I never heard anything from him anymore. But last time I cheked, he did online in my yahoo messenger on sunday. As for now (monday), he never showed online again.
As for that, I behalf of RF *n*, felt sorry for what have been experienced by the thread starter, although we are unlinked, but we still need to clear our name, but still need responsible on this matter. Hopefully that ease your mind by my explanation, I'll leave a facebook link of his