Copyright discussion

[aldimaster]

First step would be for the moderators to respond to user requests.
Some of my systems got published, no one feels responsible to delete them, not even after reporting the threads.
This happened quite a few times.

Greetz

 

[ShadowDragon]

Re: Reviving this section.

First step would be for the moderators to respond to user requests.
Some of my systems got published, no one feels responsible to delete them, not even after reporting the threads.
This happened quite a few times.

Greetz

I'm sorry to say this, but the rules of Ragezone Forum state that leaked files are completely allowed... The only files that aren't allowed are massively buggy, backdoored, or if they contain viruses. If you have a problem with this, you'll have to take it up with someone higher up. The moderators here aren't responsible for it.

 

[aldimaster]

Re: Reviving this section.

Then you shouldn´t be surprised when nobody wants to contribute to this section.

Greetz

 

[ShadowDragon]

Re: Reviving this section.

Then you shouldn´t be surprised if nobody wants to contribute to this section.

Greetz

That comment made absolutely no sense considering what we were talking about. If it wasn't for leaked stuff, there'd be no releases at all.

In my opinion, the main reason there aren't contributions to this section, is because everyone is only developing for themselves. Including you, who I'm guessing sells what he does? Whether or not you actually use what you code, if you profit off it, then you're still just doing it for yourself.

As it says on this thread RaGEZONE, Leaks, & You, "If you don't want your hard work to be stolen and released here then please secure your work".

 

[aldimaster]

Re: Reviving this section.

In fact it does.
Which developer wants to support a forum where his work and effort are not respected ?

Yes, I am developing things for myself, but this doesn´t mean that I´m not willing to support others.


Greetz

 

[Quget]

Re: Reviving this section.

In fact it does.
Which developer wants to support a forum where his work and effort are not respected ?

Yes, I am developing things for myself, but this doesn´t mean that I´m not willing to support others.


Greetz

It depends how you act around.
Some people here respect me and my work and ask my things about it etc. And give me a like! /yay!
If you act like an ass#$@ and put backdoors/viruses and so in no one will respect it/you.

 

[Adler]

Re: Reviving this section.

In fact it does.
Which developer wants to support a forum where his work and effort are not respected ?

Yes, I am developing things for myself, but this doesn´t mean that I´m not willing to support others.


Greetz

Because this is the private server world. Your work is based off of stolen work from a company that we shouldn't have in the first place. Your work is respected to an extent, but once it's leaked, the same rules that apply to official files apply to yours. If you don't want your work to be leaked, then take better precautions and ensure it doesn't get re-released here or stolen. It's very possible to do so, just trust the right people and your work will never be stolen.

 

[Dragoon]

Re: Reviving this section.

Also you shouldn't share if you don't wan't it released.
If you share it will get shared again until it reaches a leaker.

 

[Mootie]

Re: Reviving this section.

I'm sorry to say this, but the rules of Ragezone Forum state that leaked files are completely allowed... The only files that aren't allowed are massively buggy, backdoored, or if they contain viruses. If you have a problem with this, you'll have to take it up with someone higher up. The moderators here aren't responsible for it.

RaGEZONE also doesn't support hacking, which contradicts its support for users that release hacked files. This is basically the same as saying, "I hate bank robbers, but if you are a bank robber, please give me your stolen money."

 

[ShadowDragon]

Re: Reviving this section.

RaGEZONE also doesn't support hacking, which contradicts its support for users that release hacked files. This is basically the same as saying, "I hate bank robbers, but if you are a bank robber, please give me your stolen money."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 'hacked files' fall under the category of 'backdoored'? Hacking itself would be more like hacking tools (like when the source for Infiltration was released, although oddly it was allowed).

Or when you say 'hacked files' did you mean files that were stolen via hacking? Isn't that how the Flyff Official Source was obtained?

 

[TheWordless]

Re: Reviving this section.

RaGEZONE also doesn't support hacking, which contradicts its support for users that release hacked files. This is basically the same as saying, "I hate bank robbers, but if you are a bank robber, please give me your stolen money."

So, with that said Ragezone should close, all private servers should close...

Happy?

 

[spikensbror]

Re: Reviving this section.

The only files that aren't allowed are massively buggy

So basically the only files that should be in the release section is the clean source?

 

[Mootie]

Re: Reviving this section.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 'hacked files' fall under the category of 'backdoored'? Hacking itself would be more like hacking tools (like when the source for Infiltration was released, although oddly it was allowed).

Or when you say 'hacked files' did you mean files that were stolen via hacking? Isn't that how the Flyff Official Source was obtained?

Yes, I mean files that were stolen via hacking. Every "official file" release was obtained by hacking the official hosts or developers.

http://forum.ragezone.com/f111/dragon-nest-835872/#post7248458

So, with that said Ragezone should close, all private servers should close...

Happy?

My example wasn't implying that hacking is "wrong" in my opinion. I just don't believe RaGEZONE should so openly support releases of hacked(official) files without supporting the actual act of hacking into official companies.

So basically the only files that should be in the release section is the clean source?

The clean source is "massively buggy" by my standards as well. There are a few releases here that don't have many bugs, but probably less than 30.

 

[TheWordless]

Re: Reviving this section.

My example wasn't implying that hacking is "wrong" in my opinion. I just don't believe RaGEZONE should so openly support releases of hacked(official) files without supporting the actual act of hacking into official companies.

If they support the hacking itself, give out tutorials on it etc then it would more than likely give them trouble. Supporting hacked files that they didn't hack ain't something companies can attack them for. They didn't hack, they didn't teach how to hack, they simply just share the files taht someone obtained outside ragezone.

 

[Mootie]

Re: Reviving this section.

If they support the hacking itself, give out tutorials on it etc then it would more than likely give them trouble. Supporting hacked files that they didn't hack ain't something companies can attack them for. They didn't hack, they didn't teach how to hack, they simply just share the files taht someone obtained outside ragezone.

Lol, hacking practice is perfectly legal. Hosting links to copyrighted software(server files) on the otherhand is a very serious offense in almost any country. RaGEZONE is more illegal than thepiratebay considering you can upload directly to RaGEZONE servers.

 

[ShadowDragon]

He's got a point, it's a real controversy. Hacking is a very broad term and can be used for positive reasons, which is why it's not strictly illegal. It really depends on what you're doing.

Well, this discussion was kinda cluttering the other thread (Reviving this section), so I thought it would be best to move everything over here.

 

[Quget]

Leaked/ files obtained by hacking are allowed to be released. Since it has been accepted here by most people tt1:
We all know what happend to Glaphanking for not allowing that :/:

Things that contains backdoors/viruses etc. Aren't allowed. Why give the community a virus or a backdoor by using one of your things.

 

[ShadowDragon]

MisterKid, that's the point of what mootie said. Ragezone doesn't support hacking, so anything directly related to hacking (like tools for it) isn't allowed. But stuff that's obtained via hacking is allowed. It's very contradictory.

 

[Quget]

Why would you allow hacking tools here. It isn't a hacking development forum :S.

New guy starts pserver: Files from ragezone.
Another guy hacks new guy pServer: Hacking tools from ragezone.

That won't make any sense to me :s.

 

[ShadowDragon]

You're still missing the point. Ragezone doesn't support hacking, but it does allow stuff that was gotten through hacking.

All me and mootie are saying, is that they don't like hacking, but files achieved through hacking are okay.