just a rant / Classic PW

[343]

So, as if it's not obvious to those around here, especially anyone that "knows" me, my "favorite" versions of PW are pretty much everything from the oldest, all the way up to about 1.4.5 / 1.4.6 before I think shet REALLY started to get out of hand.

I do think I have made small time rants here and there but I think I do need to "vent" some of this all out. May also make it make more sense as to why I personally feel Perfect World has utterly been ruined.

So the main thing that actually just sparked this rant was: Upon "chatting" on the official servers (it's become an expensive chat box/program for me besides an occasional TT/HH run for the nostalgia or something)...

I just learned that, PW pretty much "disabled" the AH (auction house) and have now instituted "commission shops", which require a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell" or "vend"... Of course you CAN still become a consignment shop AKA "cat shop" to sell stuff (but that also requires you to stay logged in [and not play] in order to do so)... So, the only real viable player market is now reduced to "cat shops" or COMMISSION shops, which REQUIRE a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell"/"vend" to other players (which are of course time limited to either 1 week or 1 month)...

THEN...

Do not even get me started on what they did with the ENTIRE economy,,, from (including but not limited to): reducing the value of DQ items to ONE (1) coin. And now splitting there to be TWO different kinds of coin, SILVER coin and GOLD coin. Where, the "SILVER coin" is ONLY good for NPC stuff/crap. And if you want to "trade" "sell" "buy" "vend" etc with other players, that's now GOLD coin... Of course mobs only drop, and quests only reward, you guessed it, SILVER coin. GOLD coin is of course more directly related to CASH SHOPPING... .. . I could probably go in circles on this one all day long, on how absolutely retarded they have made this game (which I used to LOVE)... .. .

Then of course, most companies/games would DISCOURAGE remaining online while not doing anything (AFK kicking), however of course PW now literally rewards people who want to remain logged in despite doing absolutely NOTHING (not even being a cat shop)... What I mean by this is TWO things actually, we have the Realm of Reflection ~ where if you have the proper item(s) you can actually "reflect" and earn EXP while AFK! Then, as we all know, once upon a time, "botting" was "illegal"... Well, guess what, now the game his it's very own built in BOT!!! That's right, "hidden" under the name "reflection system" (NOT to be confused with the realm of reflection) also known as "auto-cultivating", is a built in BOT! So, hey, if you don't really want to even actually play our game, just CASH SHOP this item(s) and AFK in this map, and you'll earn EXP while you're away, doing other shet. Want more SILVER coin, that's cool, need more mob drop pots, cool, just AFK by this group of mobs here and use our built in BOT to BOT for up to EIGHT (8) hours per day!

I haven't even gotten started on all these other system(s) that have been added over the years, that, if you ask me, have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH AN (MMO)RPG... I'll even start with the GENIES, just because I have almost always thought THOSE were GHEY! Sorry, not sorry, I think genies are retarded. Why are they in the game? Did they not feel they "balanced" it correctly to start with/did they think adding these genies would fix some type of "balance" issue? Players weren't "powerful enough"? We have to add genies to make them more powerful? Okay fine, I SORT OF got beyond that at some point, it's kind of like, "anyone can have this lil pet known as a 'genie'"... FINE, I guess I may be able to actually forgive that one then. There is at least SOME type of forgivable premise as I just pointed out. But lets move along into all the other things that just do not calculate to me, WHAT_SO_EVER:
-MERIDIAN
-WAR AVATAR/CARDS
-GLYPHS
-REBIRTH/REAWAKENING
-TITLES
-STAR CHART
-ANECDOTE
Even stuff/things like guild bases and "homesteads" I have steered clear of because I know, as much as we as server devs/admins may have really WANTED these "features" for our own projects, they're just yet ANOTHER way for PW to SUCKER people into playing more, and of course thereby possibly spending MORE MONEY. So they too ultimately only contribute to CASH SHOP crap. Which makes sense, because hey they're a "FREE" game, but of course they have to make money, because the moment it stops being profitable for them; is the day they press the power OFF button on the servers!

But as a PLAYER, this (and more, I'm almost sure there's got to be something I missed in there) is what has me SUPER pissed off at PW, for RUINING this game. NOT a fan of Genies... Not a fan of the NPC price nerf on many things including/primarily the DQ items. Not a fan of the GOLD/SILVER coin SPLIT thing, NOT a fan that they eliminated the AH, in favor of a system that's basically an AH but requires a C$ item to use (in a timed fashion). NOT a fan of some stupid "CARD"/avatar collecting thing. Not a fan of the TITLE system (as implemented)! Not a fan of REWARDING being AFK in ANY way shape or form. People AFK'ing SHOULD be KICKED in order to conserve server RESOURCES (but hey game is dead so I guess that doesn't matter to them [as long as they have a small handfull of people still heavy C$ing to keep the business afloat {it has basically turned into an "official" private server!}])... Not a fan of "meridian" (whatever the **** it actually even is), Not a fan of glyphs, Not a fan of whatever the **** star chart OR anecdote is either! And DEFINITELY not a fan of the whole "rebirth"/"reawakening" thing either or any of the crap that is "under" that ~ "sky level" or "boundary" or whatever the **** they call it... Do not like guild bases, do not like "home-steads"... Also do not like "allegiance" whatever the hell that is... .. . Or hero saga, or chronicle, or celestial infant, or God only knows what I don't even know about half this new CRAP....

MAYBE, just MAYBE any given ONE of these things added would have been much more tolerable/palatable/acceptable; but add all these things/factors into play and it just TRASHES the game... There is WAY too much to it now. And sure, if I actually "embraced" it I'm sure I could be OP as phuck. IF I wanted to become a heavy C$er, or play 23.5 hours per day every day for the next 20 years. Especially since many of these things add to or alter your stats... So, yeah, sorry, not sorry, they have utterly RUINED this game. Especially when you COMBINE all these things that I've just pointed out... And then some people wonder why I wanna stick with "beta" through about 1.4.5/1.4.6 (LOL) THIS is why. Back then it was MUCH more simple and straight-forward. Now it's overly complex and not even in a "good" way. Why the **** should I have to collect these stupid war avatar cards to get more stat points for something (to be more powerful)... And that's the problem; I shouldn't ~ I should NOT have to do all this crap just to enjoy a damn game!!! A game that I USED to love, that they have utterly RUINED...

Anyway, doubt many will read my "rant", as people now-a-days clearly do not like to read (all these damn kids with their TLDR crap)! But for those who do, now you know why I stick to "beta" through 145/146...! I really think MAYBE just MAYBE PW would actually be more successful opening a "classic" server (like WoW did) than continuing down this rabit hole of turning their flagship game into **** (a massive **** show)... .. . I do know, some people actually enjoy this **** show they still call PW, and some (like myself) HATE it...

So I guess the overall point would be that A) I do think PWE (arc or whatever the **** they're calling themselves now) should really consider opening a "classic" server! and / or B) If I personally ever open / manage a server - I can almost garantee it is going to fill that niche "CLASSIC" market!!!

Continue on (about your regularly scheduled programming) now

---add---

I do have a few other (albeit smaller) nit-picks too. Like, I do NOT like how they have done away with certain things, literally rendering items useless. EX> I HATE how lv11 (demon/sage) skill books are no longer needed because skill trainers do not even exist any longer. I hate how skills are just learned through the UI rather than their respective trainer NPC's and demon/sage/lv11 skill books!

I also hate how they have literally done away with the pick-axe item. You literally cannot get a pick-axe anymore, well, because you don't even need one any more; because they have made it so you can "gather" without any item (such as the pickaxe). SO STUPID... .. .

Okay, now you can continue on about your regularly scheduled programming now

 

[penguin146]

So, as if it's not obvious to those around here, especially anyone that "knows" me, my "favorite" versions of PW are pretty much everything from the oldest, all the way up to about 1.4.5 / 1.4.6 before I think shet REALLY started to get out of hand.

I do think I have made small time rants here and there but I think I do need to "vent" some of this all out. May also make it make more sense as to why I personally feel Perfect World has utterly been ruined.

So the main thing that actually just sparked this rant was: Upon "chatting" on the official servers (it's become an expensive chat box/program for me besides an occasional TT/HH run for the nostalgia or something)...

I just learned that, PW pretty much "disabled" the AH (auction house) and have now instituted "commission shops", which require a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell" or "vend"... Of course you CAN still become a consignment shop AKA "cat shop" to sell stuff (but that also requires you to stay logged in [and not play] in order to do so)... So, the only real viable player market is now reduced to "cat shops" or COMMISSION shops, which REQUIRE a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell"/"vend" to other players (which are of course time limited to either 1 week or 1 month)...

THEN...

Do not even get me started on what they did with the ENTIRE economy,,, from (including but not limited to): reducing the value of DQ items to ONE (1) coin. And now splitting there to be TWO different kinds of coin, SILVER coin and GOLD coin. Where, the "SILVER coin" is ONLY good for NPC stuff/crap. And if you want to "trade" "sell" "buy" "vend" etc with other players, that's now GOLD coin... Of course mobs only drop, and quests only reward, you guessed it, SILVER coin. GOLD coin is of course more directly related to CASH SHOPPING... .. . I could probably go in circles on this one all day long, on how absolutely retarded they have made this game (which I used to LOVE)... .. .

Then of course, most companies/games would DISCOURAGE remaining online while not doing anything (AFK kicking), however of course PW now literally rewards people who want to remain logged in despite doing absolutely NOTHING (not even being a cat shop)... What I mean by this is TWO things actually, we have the Realm of Reflection ~ where if you have the proper item(s) you can actually "reflect" and earn EXP while AFK! Then, as we all know, once upon a time, "botting" was "illegal"... Well, guess what, now the game his it's very own built in BOT!!! That's right, "hidden" under the name "reflection system" (NOT to be confused with the realm of reflection) also known as "auto-cultivating", is a built in BOT! So, hey, if you don't really want to even actually play our game, just CASH SHOP this item(s) and AFK in this map, and you'll earn EXP while you're away, doing other shet. Want more SILVER coin, that's cool, need more mob drop pots, cool, just AFK by this group of mobs here and use our built in BOT to BOT for up to EIGHT (8) hours per day!

I haven't even gotten started on all these other system(s) that have been added over the years, that, if you ask me, have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH AN (MMO)RPG... I'll even start with the GENIES, just because I have almost always thought THOSE were GHEY! Sorry, not sorry, I think genies are retarded. Why are they in the game? Did they not feel they "balanced" it correctly to start with/did they think adding these genies would fix some type of "balance" issue? Players weren't "powerful enough"? We have to add genies to make them more powerful? Okay fine, I SORT OF got beyond that at some point, it's kind of like, "anyone can have this lil pet known as a 'genie'"... FINE, I guess I may be able to actually forgive that one then. There is at least SOME type of forgivable premise as I just pointed out. But lets move along into all the other things that just do not calculate to me, WHAT_SO_EVER:
-MERIDIAN
-WAR AVATAR/CARDS
-GLYPHS
-REBIRTH/REAWAKENING
-TITLES
-STAR CHART
-ANECDOTE
Even stuff/things like guild bases and "homesteads" I have steered clear of because I know, as much as we as server devs/admins may have really WANTED these "features" for our own projects, they're just yet ANOTHER way for PW to SUCKER people into playing more, and of course thereby possibly spending MORE MONEY. So they too ultimately only contribute to CASH SHOP crap. Which makes sense, because hey they're a "FREE" game, but of course they have to make money, because the moment it stops being profitable for them; is the day they press the power OFF button on the servers!

But as a PLAYER, this (and more, I'm almost sure there's got to be something I missed in there) is what has me SUPER pissed off at PW, for RUINING this game. NOT a fan of Genies... Not a fan of the NPC price nerf on many things including/primarily the DQ items. Not a fan of the GOLD/SILVER coin SPLIT thing, NOT a fan that they eliminated the AH, in favor of a system that's basically an AH but requires a C$ item to use (in a timed fashion). NOT a fan of some stupid "CARD"/avatar collecting thing. Not a fan of the TITLE system (as implemented)! Not a fan of REWARDING being AFK in ANY way shape or form. People AFK'ing SHOULD be KICKED in order to conserve server RESOURCES (but hey game is dead so I guess that doesn't matter to them [as long as they have a small handfull of people still heavy C$ing to keep the business afloat {it has basically turned into an "official" private server!}])... Not a fan of "meridian" (whatever the **** it actually even is), Not a fan of glyphs, Not a fan of whatever the **** star chart OR anecdote is either! And DEFINITELY not a fan of the whole "rebirth"/"reawakening" thing either or any of the crap that is "under" that ~ "sky level" or "boundary" or whatever the **** they call it... Do not like guild bases, do not like "home-steads"... Also do not like "allegiance" whatever the hell that is... .. . Or hero saga, or chronicle, or celestial infant, or God only knows what I don't even know about half this new CRAP....

MAYBE, just MAYBE any given ONE of these things added would have been much more tolerable/palatable/acceptable; but add all these things/factors into play and it just TRASHES the game... There is WAY too much to it now. And sure, if I actually "embraced" it I'm sure I could be OP as phuck. IF I wanted to become a heavy C$er, or play 23.5 hours per day every day for the next 20 years. Especially since many of these things add to or alter your stats... So, yeah, sorry, not sorry, they have utterly RUINED this game. Especially when you COMBINE all these things that I've just pointed out... And then some people wonder why I wanna stick with "beta" through about 1.4.5/1.4.6 (LOL) THIS is why. Back then it was MUCH more simple and straight-forward. Now it's overly complex and not even in a "good" way. Why the **** should I have to collect these stupid war avatar cards to get more stat points for something (to be more powerful)... And that's the problem; I shouldn't ~ I should NOT have to do all this crap just to enjoy a damn game!!! A game that I USED to love, that they have utterly RUINED...

Anyway, doubt many will read my "rant", as people now-a-days clearly do not like to read (all these damn kids with their TLDR crap)! But for those who do, now you know why I stick to "beta" through 145/146...! I really think MAYBE just MAYBE PW would actually be more successful opening a "classic" server (like WoW did) than continuing down this rabit hole of turning their flagship game into **** (a massive **** show)... .. . I do know, some people actually enjoy this **** show they still call PW, and some (like myself) HATE it...

So I guess the overall point would be that A) I do think PWE (arc or whatever the **** they're calling themselves now) should really consider opening a "classic" server! and / or B) If I personally ever open / manage a server - I can almost garantee it is going to fill that niche "CLASSIC" market!!!

Continue on (about your regularly scheduled programming) now

---add---

I do have a few other (albeit smaller) nit-picks too. Like, I do NOT like how they have done away with certain things, literally rendering items useless. EX> I HATE how lv11 (demon/sage) skill books are no longer needed because skill trainers do not even exist any longer. I hate how skills are just learned through the UI rather than their respective trainer NPC's and demon/sage/lv11 skill books!

I also hate how they have literally done away with the pick-axe item. You literally cannot get a pick-axe anymore, well, because you don't even need one any more; because they have made it so you can "gather" without any item (such as the pickaxe). SO STUPID... .. .

Okay, now you can continue on about your regularly scheduled programming now

I will still read everything you write in full—there is, of course, no dispute about the issues above. In fact, even on the official Chinese servers, they created a Classic version with limited Cubi top-ups on server O, and it is no less crowded than the current version.


I have also wondered many times why they feel the need to create so many things just to turn this once-perfect game into a mediocre instant-noodle product. Why do we have to go to West Continent, North Continent, and East Continent to do quests when the World map itself has never even been fully explored? It is absurd.


Instead of improving what already exists, the developers seem to want to discard everything old and add more and more new, poorly designed content solely to increase power.

 

[343]

I will still read everything you write in full—there is, of course, no dispute about the issues above. In fact, even on the official Chinese servers, they created a Classic version with limited Cubi top-ups on server O, and it is no less crowded than the current version.


I have also wondered many times why they feel the need to create so many things just to turn this once-perfect game into a mediocre instant-noodle product. Why do we have to go to West Continent, North Continent, and East Continent to do quests when the World map itself has never even been fully explored? It is absurd.


Instead of improving what already exists, the developers seem to want to discard everything old and add more and more new, poorly designed content solely to increase power.

It is definitely good to know that at least 1 person actually read it and I wasn't just "blank venting" to the interwebs (black hole) LOL! At the same time I apologize, because I literally just "ranted" and didn't even re-read (proof read) myself (like I normally do before hitting submit/post) LMAO! So I wonder how "bad" it actually is... I know myself, and I can get quite ranty (and repeat the **** out of myself) LOL!

That being said, I do certainly appreciate knowing I am not the only one that feels this way! I am almost certain if I ever did run (or "dev" for) a server it would be either v131 or v145 (MAYBE v146) DEFINITELY no higher than 146 because as I recall 151 was when they implemented that "reawakening" "rebirth" shet (that I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE)... I think I actually played on official up until v145 too. Maybe I could even do both one day when I have more free time, have a v131 and a v145 ~ best of "classic" IMHO!

---add---

so I was re-reviewing some "notes" for v146 (

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) and didn't even realize, THIS is when they added that dreaded commission shop thing I just spoke of (more specifically in the "Crimson Imperium" update)!!!

Oh and apparently the meridian system too, under the "Rising Call" update...

• Commission Shop: Players may now purchase Dragon Oaths from the Boutique to unlock a Commission Shop and vend their wares for up to 1 billion coins per item. Potential buyers can peruse through all Commission Shop inventories, from anywhere in the world, by clicking the new Commission Shop button at the top left corner. To purchase a Commission Shop item, players must speak to a Commission Shop NPC in Archosaur.

• Meridian System:
  • A new system for Lv40 and up, allowing the player to "ascend" their stats much higher than before! Requires the use of Mystic Pills and Holy Pills, available in the Boutique! To reach the Meridian System Window, when reaching Lv40, open the **Inventory window and click on the character figure directly in the middle. Click on the first circle, CV1, begin the ascension process!

Yeah, pretty sure I "quit" playing on official servers @ v145... Can't believe all they have done to this game since then. As I have been saying "descent" is a very appropriate name for v145 because after that, that is exactly what the game has been on, it's own "DESCENT"!!!!!!!

I do think I would be interested to see/experience the "nation war" thing that came out with Sirens of War; but even then I'd have to "delete"/"deactivate" or otherwise "plan" around the commission shop and meridian system(s) that I do not like! So 146 would still be a pretty big MAYBE. 131 (and under) up to 145 is "golden" for sure!!!

 

[batuirin]

I read everything that was presented, and I agree with most of it.

Having a million systems to trap players isn't good; simplicity is much more valued.

It's not the right time yet, but at some point a server free of this nonsense might appear.

 

[mtrancefied]

I gave up on the official about 12 years ago give or take. it went from a fun community-based MMORPG to Cash milking players within a very short period. not to mention them pushing way too much content when the majority of players didn't even get the old content done.

I quit for a year back then, come back to start with the "infamous 6 hours patch", then finally login to find a whole lot of new stuff thats almost impossible to catch up with for a casual player. well unless you decide to call the game "real life" and literally live there grinding 24/7 and pay as much as you have. So I did my thing and uninstalled for good.

I do miss the environment and friends over there of course, but I will never let PWE take over my life lol. so here I am building my own pserver to hopefully enjoy!

 

[wawaow]

I have set up a server for myself starting from the 142 version and slowly updating it to see what changed, I'm currently on the version 153 and
the more I play the sadder I get seeing HOW ABSURDLY CASH GRAB this game has become...Their answer to everything? Slam the item in a Pack!

I remember the first time I went to the Frostcovered City with my guild back in 2008/2009, you would kill the bosses and get the items to make
the gears there, simple as that, and I LOVED the gears from there...now it's reduced to NOTHING, THE INSTANCE IS COMPLETELY RUINED. Its purpose is to power level, nothing more. Wanna get the weapons? Get the item from the Packs that has an ABYSMAL chance to get!!!! Wanna the armours??? Well that's too bad, you can't get it anymore!!!

Regarding to Genies, my first idea when I saw them back in 2009 I think, was just a fairy to "help" you with healing yourself, debuffing
the monsters while questing, etc...But apparently they made some stupid skills for PvP I guess????

The other contents I don't know anything about, except Meridian that I just started to explore, which I think it's just for you to get some stats...The rest I have absolute NO CLUE...

Anyway, just yesterday, I was checking on Gear Progress on PW Wiki, and my idea is to get the Lunar Glade rings...then I saw there's an
upgrade for that ring... So I went to see what I needed...maybe an item from TT or from the new content perharps??? NOPE. THE ITEM
CAN ONLY BE OBTAINED FROM A PACK AND HAS AN INCREDIBLE 0.005% CHANCE TO GET!!!!! THEY ARE PUTTING EVERYTHING ON A PACK!!!!!! WHY NOT USE ITEMS FROM DIFFERENT CONTENTS?????? I HATE PACKSSSSS AAAAAAAAA I HATE THIS LOGIC AAAAAAAAAA I HATE RNG AAAAAAAAA

*breaths*

I have a few critics from the classic versions (like the amount of monsters you need to kill, disputing resources with other players,
not enough coins from monsters, the drop rate "logic"...), but seeing how they ruined the game by SELLING THE SOLUTION FOR THE PROBLEMS THEY CREATED JUST TO GET MORE CASH is just...so disrespectful man...

 

[343]

Yeah, the more and more I think about it ~ if I ever did run or 'dev' for a server; it would probably 'have' to be 131...

And you're right. Their answer to everything was to toss it into a "pack"!!!

 

[penguin146]

How do you even get that feeling anymore of crafting a white weapon and having it come out with weapon blue 3* :V

 

[Uncanny]

Really agreed with you in general, except for the bad words ,
and the pick-axe situation, you are right, make no sense.

I Like the idea of a Classic Server,
when i think in that i smile automatically haha.
(I dont think the official company want to make a classic server)

For me 1.3.6 version is the best, really feel like the original vision of the game.
Loot, crafting, upgrade Skills, all make more sense.

Also i think the concept of take a 1.2.6 version,
and add only Quality of life updates, like Keybinds, is an option.
Or the idea of update with content, like Chrono skills 79-100,
but Dont add any broken/dont fit content like Warsoul Weapons, genies, Veno Pets, more races, etc...

Im a Visual and gameplay nostalgic person... haha. Thanks for your Guides,
have a good Ash Wednesday day !

 

[galking48]

So, as if it's not obvious to those around here, especially anyone that "knows" me, my "favorite" versions of PW are pretty much everything from the oldest, all the way up to about 1.4.5 / 1.4.6 before I think shet REALLY started to get out of hand.

I do think I have made small time rants here and there but I think I do need to "vent" some of this all out. May also make it make more sense as to why I personally feel Perfect World has utterly been ruined.

So the main thing that actually just sparked this rant was: Upon "chatting" on the official servers (it's become an expensive chat box/program for me besides an occasional TT/HH run for the nostalgia or something)...

I just learned that, PW pretty much "disabled" the AH (auction house) and have now instituted "commission shops", which require a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell" or "vend"... Of course you CAN still become a consignment shop AKA "cat shop" to sell stuff (but that also requires you to stay logged in [and not play] in order to do so)... So, the only real viable player market is now reduced to "cat shops" or COMMISSION shops, which REQUIRE a CASH SHOP ITEM in order to "sell"/"vend" to other players (which are of course time limited to either 1 week or 1 month)...

THEN...

Do not even get me started on what they did with the ENTIRE economy,,, from (including but not limited to): reducing the value of DQ items to ONE (1) coin. And now splitting there to be TWO different kinds of coin, SILVER coin and GOLD coin. Where, the "SILVER coin" is ONLY good for NPC stuff/crap. And if you want to "trade" "sell" "buy" "vend" etc with other players, that's now GOLD coin... Of course mobs only drop, and quests only reward, you guessed it, SILVER coin. GOLD coin is of course more directly related to CASH SHOPPING... .. . I could probably go in circles on this one all day long, on how absolutely retarded they have made this game (which I used to LOVE)... .. .

Then of course, most companies/games would DISCOURAGE remaining online while not doing anything (AFK kicking), however of course PW now literally rewards people who want to remain logged in despite doing absolutely NOTHING (not even being a cat shop)... What I mean by this is TWO things actually, we have the Realm of Reflection ~ where if you have the proper item(s) you can actually "reflect" and earn EXP while AFK! Then, as we all know, once upon a time, "botting" was "illegal"... Well, guess what, now the game his it's very own built in BOT!!! That's right, "hidden" under the name "reflection system" (NOT to be confused with the realm of reflection) also known as "auto-cultivating", is a built in BOT! So, hey, if you don't really want to even actually play our game, just CASH SHOP this item(s) and AFK in this map, and you'll earn EXP while you're away, doing other shet. Want more SILVER coin, that's cool, need more mob drop pots, cool, just AFK by this group of mobs here and use our built in BOT to BOT for up to EIGHT (8) hours per day!

I haven't even gotten started on all these other system(s) that have been added over the years, that, if you ask me, have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH AN (MMO)RPG... I'll even start with the GENIES, just because I have almost always thought THOSE were GHEY! Sorry, not sorry, I think genies are retarded. Why are they in the game? Did they not feel they "balanced" it correctly to start with/did they think adding these genies would fix some type of "balance" issue? Players weren't "powerful enough"? We have to add genies to make them more powerful? Okay fine, I SORT OF got beyond that at some point, it's kind of like, "anyone can have this lil pet known as a 'genie'"... FINE, I guess I may be able to actually forgive that one then. There is at least SOME type of forgivable premise as I just pointed out. But lets move along into all the other things that just do not calculate to me, WHAT_SO_EVER:
-MERIDIAN
-WAR AVATAR/CARDS
-GLYPHS
-REBIRTH/REAWAKENING
-TITLES
-STAR CHART
-ANECDOTE
Even stuff/things like guild bases and "homesteads" I have steered clear of because I know, as much as we as server devs/admins may have really WANTED these "features" for our own projects, they're just yet ANOTHER way for PW to SUCKER people into playing more, and of course thereby possibly spending MORE MONEY. So they too ultimately only contribute to CASH SHOP crap. Which makes sense, because hey they're a "FREE" game, but of course they have to make money, because the moment it stops being profitable for them; is the day they press the power OFF button on the servers!

But as a PLAYER, this (and more, I'm almost sure there's got to be something I missed in there) is what has me SUPER pissed off at PW, for RUINING this game. NOT a fan of Genies... Not a fan of the NPC price nerf on many things including/primarily the DQ items. Not a fan of the GOLD/SILVER coin SPLIT thing, NOT a fan that they eliminated the AH, in favor of a system that's basically an AH but requires a C$ item to use (in a timed fashion). NOT a fan of some stupid "CARD"/avatar collecting thing. Not a fan of the TITLE system (as implemented)! Not a fan of REWARDING being AFK in ANY way shape or form. People AFK'ing SHOULD be KICKED in order to conserve server RESOURCES (but hey game is dead so I guess that doesn't matter to them [as long as they have a small handfull of people still heavy C$ing to keep the business afloat {it has basically turned into an "official" private server!}])... Not a fan of "meridian" (whatever the **** it actually even is), Not a fan of glyphs, Not a fan of whatever the **** star chart OR anecdote is either! And DEFINITELY not a fan of the whole "rebirth"/"reawakening" thing either or any of the crap that is "under" that ~ "sky level" or "boundary" or whatever the **** they call it... Do not like guild bases, do not like "home-steads"... Also do not like "allegiance" whatever the hell that is... .. . Or hero saga, or chronicle, or celestial infant, or God only knows what I don't even know about half this new CRAP....

MAYBE, just MAYBE any given ONE of these things added would have been much more tolerable/palatable/acceptable; but add all these things/factors into play and it just TRASHES the game... There is WAY too much to it now. And sure, if I actually "embraced" it I'm sure I could be OP as phuck. IF I wanted to become a heavy C$er, or play 23.5 hours per day every day for the next 20 years. Especially since many of these things add to or alter your stats... So, yeah, sorry, not sorry, they have utterly RUINED this game. Especially when you COMBINE all these things that I've just pointed out... And then some people wonder why I wanna stick with "beta" through about 1.4.5/1.4.6 (LOL) THIS is why. Back then it was MUCH more simple and straight-forward. Now it's overly complex and not even in a "good" way. Why the **** should I have to collect these stupid war avatar cards to get more stat points for something (to be more powerful)... And that's the problem; I shouldn't ~ I should NOT have to do all this crap just to enjoy a damn game!!! A game that I USED to love, that they have utterly RUINED...

Anyway, doubt many will read my "rant", as people now-a-days clearly do not like to read (all these damn kids with their TLDR crap)! But for those who do, now you know why I stick to "beta" through 145/146...! I really think MAYBE just MAYBE PW would actually be more successful opening a "classic" server (like WoW did) than continuing down this rabit hole of turning their flagship game into **** (a massive **** show)... .. . I do know, some people actually enjoy this **** show they still call PW, and some (like myself) HATE it...

So I guess the overall point would be that A) I do think PWE (arc or whatever the **** they're calling themselves now) should really consider opening a "classic" server! and / or B) If I personally ever open / manage a server - I can almost garantee it is going to fill that niche "CLASSIC" market!!!

Continue on (about your regularly scheduled programming) now

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I do have a few other (albeit smaller) nit-picks too. Like, I do NOT like how they have done away with certain things, literally rendering items useless. EX> I HATE how lv11 (demon/sage) skill books are no longer needed because skill trainers do not even exist any longer. I hate how skills are just learned through the UI rather than their respective trainer NPC's and demon/sage/lv11 skill books!

I also hate how they have literally done away with the pick-axe item. You literally cannot get a pick-axe anymore, well, because you don't even need one any more; because they have made it so you can "gather" without any item (such as the pickaxe). SO STUPID... .. .

Okay, now you can continue on about your regularly scheduled programming now

I really feel you on this one. It’s honestly sad to see what PW has become. I’ve always felt that v1.4.6 was the last version that actually felt like a role-playing game before everything started spiraling into a mess of menus and pay-to-win mechanics. Personally, v1.4.4 is my absolute favorite because that’s when I first discovered this game.

I still remember my brother telling me to check the game out because they had just added a swordsman class: the Seeker. That was my very first character in Perfect World, and to this day, it remains my favorite class.

Everything that came after those versions, from my point of view, has been absolute garbage. The essence of the game was lost under layers of unnecessary systems that just ruined the experience.

 

[raizel]

To be honest, I want to create a PW concept like this, but why is it so hard to attract a lot of players? Maybe I’m just not very good at marketing.

 

[Rizzah]

To be honest, I want to create a PW concept like this, but why is it so hard to attract a lot of players? Maybe I’m just not very good at marketing.

as one of the OG pw-my players thats exactly what im making.

Im working my way back from current files, to the old school state of the game. Stripping tons of these mechanics but keeping quality of life changes.
we played on PW-MY the only english version before PWI came and destroyed everything, we farmed items for a year that PWI added in cash shop on release, that whole server was a joke from day 1.

anyways here i am in the first ever succes mode team beating FB99 success mode before Genie was even added and not a penny was spend on gear... :

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[toxicowl1337]

It’s so funny to watch people whine about the introduction of new content, when the exact same thing happens in literally every other game. The only thing that sets PW apart is that it doesn’t hide the divide between players—you’ve got the "poor" folks who grind for years, and then you’ve got the "whales" who end up with all the rare gear. Meridians—are they actually difficult? Seriously? xDDD. Fairies are such a dumb system, with no uniqueness or customization options, that it's laughable. 90% of players have the same fairies for PvE and PvP. They're just +1 runners, immunity, and chi gain.
I’ve played on older versions—both back when they were current and now on 1.3.6 and 1.4.6 private servers. It’s all just the same mind-numbing, vomit-inducing grind of Twilight Temple and Demon Gate. And the kicker is, there isn’t a single truly "vanilla" private server out there—because, let’s be honest, nobody in this day and age is going to play that archaic piece of trash. Every server incorporates utility features from newer versions or some custom, home-brewed additions.
I have nothing against fans of the older versions. I even agree that the new versions are just crap for the rich. But calling PW’s mechanics "complex" or "incomprehensible"—and failing to grasp why they’re being introduced in the first place—is just laughable.

 

[343]

It is even funnier to watch b^tch ass newbs come here to complain about people complaining ROFLMFAO. It's not like I would give a single PHUCK about any other game, because I do not play any other game. Not to mention, you're factually WRONG. MARIO BROS for example, has not changed ONE SINGLE BIT... Fairies , who TF calls genies fairies ; oh well, takes one to know one!!! Ya phucking fairy! You clearly DO have something against the old content, and the people that enjoy it; with your vomit inducing post... We do not fail to grasp why they're being introduced in the first place, it's obvious that those stupid slant eyes just wanna keep mllking that cash cow as long as they can. So much so that they have put sh^t in it that doesn't even phucking make any sense (a lot like your face)! What is even more laughable, is how much of a retard your mom must be for not aborting you... Why don't you go crawl up someone else's tree ya retard... Go earn some more "spend rewards" for that pitiful THING they call an "expansion" that just dropped last week, ya pitiful cash shopper! Don't you have some "re-awakening" to go do. Maybe you could try it IRL, go unalive yourself so you can "try over" on the next round... Maybe you'll get it right next time...

 

[ice45]

It’s so funny to watch people whine about the introduction of new content, when the exact same thing happens in literally every other game. The only thing that sets PW apart is that it doesn’t hide the divide between players—you’ve got the "poor" folks who grind for years, and then you’ve got the "whales" who end up with all the rare gear. Meridians—are they actually difficult? Seriously? xDDD. Fairies are such a dumb system, with no uniqueness or customization options, that it's laughable. 90% of players have the same fairies for PvE and PvP. They're just +1 runners, immunity, and chi gain.
I’ve played on older versions—both back when they were current and now on 1.3.6 and 1.4.6 private servers. It’s all just the same mind-numbing, vomit-inducing grind of Twilight Temple and Demon Gate. And the kicker is, there isn’t a single truly "vanilla" private server out there—because, let’s be honest, nobody in this day and age is going to play that archaic piece of trash. Every server incorporates utility features from newer versions or some custom, home-brewed additions.
I have nothing against fans of the older versions. I even agree that the new versions are just crap for the rich. But calling PW’s mechanics "complex" or "incomprehensible"—and failing to grasp why they’re being introduced in the first place—is just laughable.

Genies were a necessary system to avoid getting perma-locked by wrs on 1.3...at one point a massive amount of players (mostly 1.3 purists) really hated the fact they introduced them in 1.4. That eventually changed, most people now agree that it was needed and actually a good thing. You're also wrong about it having no uniqueness - there are a ton of genie builds out there.

 

[343]

Anyway, my point still stands; there's LITERALLY ZERO 'relevance' to things like "WAR CARDS" for prime example. WTF this is an MMO (or at least I thought it was),... WTF is the point in "collecting cards" (that actually affect your stats FFS).. That has about as much common sense as having to collect guns in a racing game to go faster. Or about as much sense as collecting fuel and tires to win in a shooting game... That is, there's literally ZERO phucking "relation" there. Point being, they have literally gotten retarded with adding ****, that who knows who dreamed up, that doesn't even make sense. "rebirth" doesn't make sense. "war cards" doesn't make sense. "meridian" does not make sense. The ONLY thing I could see being implemented to "make sense" would have been "glyphs" (out of my ORG list of "complaints")... That's literally it!

Again, MOST of these "new things" make about as much sense as having to collect guns in a racing game so you can go faster
or collecting tires and fuel in a shooting game so you can shoot better...

THAT is how STUPID Perfect World International has become!

I also have a feeling that, had the ORIGINAL development team stuck around on it. It would have NEVER gotten this ghey!

<shurgg> OH WELL

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[toxicowl1337]

From the perspective of Eastern history, the concept of meridians actually makes sense—much like the idea of reincarnation. The maps are a different story altogether, as are the glyphs. I mean, if you really want to nitpick—what are you supposed to do with those glyphs, shove them up your own ass? Besides, the game has gone through a bunch of different developers; it’s no surprise that it looks different with every new expansion. It’s funny—I’m not judging your interests at all, yet here you are, acting like such a toxic, whiny little girl

 

[343]

From the perspective of Eastern history, the concept of meridians actually makes sense—much like the idea of reincarnation. The maps are a different story altogether, as are the glyphs. I mean, if you really want to nitpick—what are you supposed to do with those glyphs, shove them up your own ass? Besides, the game has gone through a bunch of different developers; it’s no surprise that it looks different with every new expansion. It’s funny—I’m not judging your interests at all, yet here you are, acting like such a toxic, whiny little girl

Nah, I was just trying to bait you TBH >.>
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, even if it differs from our own...
Carry on!

Spoiler

BTW gold star for not falling for it

 

[excelled]

From the perspective of Eastern history, the concept of meridians actually makes sense—much like the idea of reincarnation. The maps are a different story altogether, as are the glyphs. I mean, if you really want to nitpick—what are you supposed to do with those glyphs, shove them up your own ass? Besides, the game has gone through a bunch of different developers; it’s no surprise that it looks different with every new expansion. It’s funny—I’m not judging your interests at all, yet here you are, acting like such a toxic, whiny little girl

Judging by your words, perhaps you didn’t experience the classic versions of Perfect World, my friend.

Version 1.2.6 on PWI in 2006, 1.3.6 on PWBR in 2007, and many others from that era left a lasting mark on an entire generation of players.

For many people over the age of 30, those were the best versions of the game. It wasn’t just about quests, skills, or progression; it was about the context surrounding them—the friendships that blossomed, the guilds, the endless conversations in chat, the territorial wars, and the sense of discovery that every map offered.

Perhaps the game itself was truly different, but I believe the main factor was the stage of life we were in. Back then, for many, the daily routine consisted only of school and home—or for others, university and home. We had more time, fewer worries, and it was much easier to forge bonds within the game.

That is why those versions remain so deeply etched in our memories. We don’t just miss the Perfect World of that time; we miss the period of our lives when all of that took place. The game was excellent, but the memories and the friendships made those versions something that will be very hard to replicate.