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Everytime Nexon has a server check , they add new NX stuff. Instead of fixing lag , glitches and stuff like that, they add more NX so they can gain more money. Some serious questions rise when I think about this.

I think that Ms Korea is really awesome ( I want to play it ) too bad its only for Koreans , which I think they fail at. If they can release Ms Korea globally , that would boost their economy by a couple of millions because I'm sure more then 78% of GMS's players would witch to Ms Korea if they could play it. I'm not sure if releasing Ms Korea globally can be done , but if it can it would be a huge success. ( also seeing that they probably have the best GFX , DEV's and Coders out of the whole MS's )

I hope all the jobs aren't as hard as Aran. It's been 1 month and there is till no lvl 200 Aran.
Lets just see what they come up with on the next jobs.

Yes, they are trying to surpass the creativity of Private servers. We were the first to introduce Stat Resets without NX. Now, every character you make in GMS gets a stat reset at level 10. We were the first to introduce families (red family, blue family, or other names). Nexon introduces their Family system. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do release Rebirths for NX. I mean... if you think about it, 6 characters to an account. You reach level 200 on all characters, what left do you have to accomplish on that account? Not much, thus it likely becomes a dead account, only logged on to chat with friends. Yes, they are adding things too fast, as far as the jobs go. I believe Aran/Evan are classified as "Heros". They will probably open a 3D game in the future, as an off branch of MapleStory (MapleStory 2?) for people that would like an added twist to the game, but it would probably be very similar to Dragonica.
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I think that adding Rebirth to GMS , would kill the game. I don't know how to explain this any further ... in my opinion it would kill the "spirit" that most players play for.

Releasing Maplestory 2 in 3D is actually a brilliant idea. If they release it , it should be right the 1st time , I wouldn't play it if I knew they were going to make it like v.1 and eventually update it to v.80 . And if they release it maybe they should charge a small fee of like 1$ a month or something. 12$ a year ... around 24 million dollars a year ( if they really have 2million players ) And they could focus on perfecting Maplestory 2 instead of having to add NX items every time.
I'm sure that people would pay for the game because it becomes addicting and once you play it and quit , and a new job comes out . YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT.

Its a shame that the R.Z community cant work together to make a map maker for maplestory. A sprite pack and a Monster Pack. That is all we really need to make Private servers NX friendly.
 
mertjuh said:
I agree, nexon's idea's are crap , I can't even follow how many things they update, it's soo messy.
Like they've said that the cygnuss was an army that would fight against the black mage, and 1 month later they've changed it to 1 man that would destory the black mage solo:$:
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Those stories of them, you shouldn't pay too much attention, it's for the roleplay geeks.
Did you know the dark scrolls were made by a wizard, but they were too unstable for him to handle so he spread them all over the world for other people to handle?
No, off course you didn't, because nobody reads those stories anyway. (this was the only one i read, jftr)
 
Well, heres my thoughts.

Pros for NEXON:
First, NEXON is luring more players to their servers.
Second, NEXON is making money off their server (They will try to get AS MANY PLAYERS as they can because they GET EXTRA MONEY).
Third, NEXON wants to advance quickly so that the private servers are to say, "outdated"

Cons for NEXON:
First, by releasing more items and jobs, whos to STOP Private Servers from taking these things off their current version. Or maybe even developing a repack that has the exact version as NEXON.
Second, Private Servers--if they reach the standard as NEXON--offer something that NEXON will never be able to provide: FREE Cash Items
Third, by advancing quickly, NEXON takes the lead, but developers could also step up. Whos to STOP millions of people from developing/hosting a repack the same as NEXON?

My opinion:
This "fight" will just be a stalemate between NEXON and Private Servers. Private Servers will attract their players, NEXON will attract their players. I think its based on Player Preference.

People who want FREE CASH ITEMS go to Private Servers.
People who want FEATURES go to NEXON.

In the end, its just a stalemate.

Those people who want more intricate detail about a noob pissed about NEXON (drowning), unclick spoiler:
TZD(MapleTip Forums) said:
I don't really care so much about this, but if I were still playing my islander, I'd have reason to be mad. I think every single islander who's worked hard for their levels, to get so far WOULD indeed be at least disappointed about this one, even if they're bound to abuse this new system.
So, for this new patch, we've gotten this EXP Gachapon...
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Yeah, obviously it's a little thing like any other Gachapon... you buy tickets, put them in, expect some reward in return, except the reward is EXP. Okay, simple stuff. For people off Maple Island already, this shouldn't be much of a problem to you, it's just only a random number from 100 to 100000 EXP.
I'm not going to reinstall MapleStory again just to check whether there is an EXP Gachapon on Maple Island... but apparently there is. (Not my screenshot)
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It's quite a pain when I've spent my time training on Orange Mushrooms all day, and then right this instance I find myself feeling wasted when some overly rich kid can just get a whole bunch of NX and level themselves to level 50 in a few moments (since this thing can only get you to level 50 maximum anyways).
What's next, you can return to Maple Island, just like in CMS? But honestly, I don't wish to get to there yet. All I can say is, wow. It almost completely destroys, defeats the purpose of islanders (forget the Maple Trading System, in fact that isn't even anything). I'm glad I've already quit, and I'm sure some others might be quitting too after this just comes up.
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As John said... this War is Pointless Yet Needed.

For starters, NEXON(Wizet) Has been overly updating the services, and i myself have been waiting for EVAN (its a Dragon Mage, could get better? Maybe..) but still, whats to stop a PRivate Server (GMS Based or Not) to grab EVAN before NEXON translates it for us in NA.

Now i'm just basing my words on what i read, but i think that this war will end, but neither side is gonna win. there will always be NEXON, and there will always be Private Servers.

if NEXON wants to get a True player base back, they need to stop working on the game, and pay attention to their own players. work on the customer support more, tickets, and so forth...


Correct me if i'm wrong, but i also think that some heavy duty players that have been banned from GMS (Or Others) use Private servers to get back to their pride much quicker.


-Dan
 
Lerck said:
Everytime Nexon has a server check , they add new NX stuff. Instead of fixing lag , glitches and stuff like that, they add more NX so they can gain more money. Some serious questions rise when I think about this.

I think that Ms Korea is really awesome ( I want to play it ) too bad its only for Koreans , which I think they fail at. If they can release Ms Korea globally , that would boost their economy by a couple of millions because I'm sure more then 78% of GMS's players would witch to Ms Korea if they could play it. I'm not sure if releasing Ms Korea globally can be done , but if it can it would be a huge success. ( also seeing that they probably have the best GFX , DEV's and Coders out of the whole MS's )

I hope all the jobs aren't as hard as Aran. It's been 1 month and there is till no lvl 200 Aran.
Lets just see what they come up with on the next jobs.




I think that adding Rebirth to GMS , would kill the game. I don't know how to explain this any further ... in my opinion it would kill the "spirit" that most players play for.

Releasing Maplestory 2 in 3D is actually a brilliant idea. If they release it , it should be right the 1st time , I wouldn't play it if I knew they were going to make it like v.1 and eventually update it to v.80 . And if they release it maybe they should charge a small fee of like 1$ a month or something. 12$ a year ... around 24 million dollars a year ( if they really have 2million players ) And they could focus on perfecting Maplestory 2 instead of having to add NX items every time.
I'm sure that people would pay for the game because it becomes addicting and once you play it and quit , and a new job comes out . YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT.

Its a shame that the R.Z community cant work together to make a map maker for maplestory. A sprite pack and a Monster Pack. That is all we really need to make Private servers NX friendly.
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Pfff.. are you kidding? There are plenty of map makers out there! What NEXON needs is a realization that the players are more important than the player's money.
 
DevonsDaddy said:
Agreed. Many people think they are just wingin it, but these have actually been planned out for a long time. Notice how KMS always has what we will get about a year/year and a half ahead of time?
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Which shows that they are always going to be 1 step ahead of us. They always have been. I'm surprised you all just realized that, you guys must be retarded.
 
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wackyracer said:
Which shows that they are always going to be 1 step ahead of us. They always have been. I'm surprised you all just realized that, you guys must be retarded.
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Ok so every idea they had has been planned out ahead of time? Stat resets weren't even thought of until Private servers did it. Nexon had kept it like that for a reason. NX buyable AP/SP resets.
 
johnh53 said:
Well, heres my thoughts.

Pros for NEXON:
First, NEXON is luring more players to their servers.
Second, NEXON is making money off their server (They will try to get AS MANY PLAYERS as they can because they GET EXTRA MONEY).
Third, NEXON wants to advance quickly so that the private servers are to say, "outdated"

Cons for NEXON:
First, by releasing more items and jobs, whos to STOP Private Servers from taking these things off their current version. Or maybe even developing a repack that has the exact version as NEXON.
Second, Private Servers--if they reach the standard as NEXON--offer something that NEXON will never be able to provide: FREE Cash Items
Third, by advancing quickly, NEXON takes the lead, but developers could also step up. Whos to STOP millions of people from developing/hosting a repack the same as NEXON?

My opinion:
This "fight" will just be a stalemate between NEXON and Private Servers. Private Servers will attract their players, NEXON will attract their players. I think its based on Player Preference.

People who want FREE CASH ITEMS go to Private Servers.
People who want FEATURES go to NEXON.

In the end, its just a stalemate.

Those people who want more intricate detail about a noob pissed about NEXON (drowning), unclick spoiler:
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features? lol no maybe if ur lifeless and become lvl 120 in a few days, the game sucks if you have no skills
 
Kars said:
Those things that reset 1 sp, and 1 ap?
Not even worth a fucking buck.
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LOL That's my point. Private servers have had free stat resets for a long time before they were ever made free in official MS. Now, they could always use the excuse that they supposedly weren't selling, but I believe it's more to do with private servers giving it for free. Alot of people used to buy them because they weren't so lucky on the roll.
 
I'm sure that the Copyright Law states that if you change 75% ( I'm not sure if 75 is the correct digit) of a product then there is no way you can get in trouble with the law . And if we can find enough map makers , sprite creators and monster sprite creators and create our own version of Maplestory ( Maybe it can be called something like RageStory )then we would have no business with Nexon ( That is , if we change more then the correct digit . In this case 75% ). But nobody will step up for the moment because they know that if they are the first to release something new then Nexon will come after them.

------That's what I think Lerck is trying to say.------​

B.O.T: I think that Nexon sometimes goes overboard with somethings such as Cash Shop items and forgets what is really important and keeps their game running , the players.
But you guys are making a HUGE deal out of this ... ask yourself , if you were running a major game and had a big amount of staff , wouldn't you do the same as NEXON is doing? Trying to get every penny from their players?

And don't hit me with some bullshit like , oh no I'm not in it for the profit I'm in it for the players . Because almost 95% of the population is always looking for a way to benefit from things.
 
iSlapHoes said:
I'm sure that the Copyright Law states that if you change 75% ( I'm not sure if 75 is the correct digit) of a product then there is no way you can get in trouble with the law . And if we can find enough map makers , sprite creators and monster sprite creators and create our own version of Maplestory ( Maybe it can be called something like RageStory )then we would have no business with Nexon ( That is , if we change more then the correct digit . In this case 75% ). But nobody will step up for the moment because they know that if they are the first to release something new then Nexon will come after them.

------That's what I think Lerck is trying to say.------​

B.O.T: I think that Nexon sometimes goes overboard with somethings such as Cash Shop items and forgets what is really important and keeps their game running , the players.
But you guys are making a HUGE deal out of this ... ask yourself , if you were running a major game and had a big amount of staff , wouldn't you do the same as NEXON is doing? Trying to get every penny from their players?

And don't hit me with some bullshit like , oh no I'm not in it for the profit I'm in it for the players . Because almost 95% of the population is always looking for a way to benefit from things.
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Its probably not that simple bud. This is probably the actual equation:

Player Experience > Players > Customer Service > Money > Nexon

Simply put, the more NEXON actually "tries" to improve their server, the more players they get. Thus generating more income from their players.

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iSlapHoes said:
I'm sure that the Copyright Law states that if you change 75% ( I'm not sure if 75 is the correct digit) of a product then there is no way you can get in trouble with the law . And if we can find enough map makers , sprite creators and monster sprite creators and create our own version of Maplestory ( Maybe it can be called something like RageStory )then we would have no business with Nexon ( That is , if we change more then the correct digit . In this case 75% ). But nobody will step up for the moment because they know that if they are the first to release something new then Nexon will come after them.

------That's what I think Lerck is trying to say.------​

B.O.T: I think that Nexon sometimes goes overboard with somethings such as Cash Shop items and forgets what is really important and keeps their game running , the players.
But you guys are making a HUGE deal out of this ... ask yourself , if you were running a major game and had a big amount of staff , wouldn't you do the same as NEXON is doing? Trying to get every penny from their players?

And don't hit me with some bullshit like , oh no I'm not in it for the profit I'm in it for the players . Because almost 95% of the population is always looking for a way to benefit from things.
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Its probably not that simple bud. This is probably the actual equation:

Player Experience > Players > Customer Service > Money > Nexon

Simply put, the more NEXON actually "tries" to improve their server, the more players they get. Thus generating more income from their players.
 
iSlapHoes said:
I'm sure that the Copyright Law states that if you change 75% ( I'm not sure if 75 is the correct digit) of a product then there is no way you can get in trouble with the law . And if we can find enough map makers , sprite creators and monster sprite creators and create our own version of Maplestory ( Maybe it can be called something like RageStory )then we would have no business with Nexon ( That is , if we change more then the correct digit . In this case 75% ). But nobody will step up for the moment because they know that if they are the first to release something new then Nexon will come after them.

------That's what I think Lerck is trying to say.------​

B.O.T: I think that Nexon sometimes goes overboard with somethings such as Cash Shop items and forgets what is really important and keeps their game running , the players.
But you guys are making a HUGE deal out of this ... ask yourself , if you were running a major game and had a big amount of staff , wouldn't you do the same as NEXON is doing? Trying to get every penny from their players?

And don't hit me with some bullshit like , oh no I'm not in it for the profit I'm in it for the players . Because almost 95% of the population is always looking for a way to benefit from things.
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How do you "change 75%" without cracking/modifying the file? Nexons' ToS states you may not modify their files, so in order to do what you are saying, we would need to create our own files from scratch, which no one will do because you'd might as well create your own game instead.
 
DevonsDaddy said:
How do you "change 75%" without cracking/modifying the file? Nexons' ToS states you may not modify their files, so in order to do what you are saying, we would need to create our own files from scratch, which no one will do because you'd might as well create your own game instead.
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1. Change the sprites,
2. Change the maps,
3. Like you said , we came up with things way before Nexon , such as the EXP gatch.

Doesn't changing the server rates count?

All I'm saying , change the color of the sprites , such as if there were green earnings before we can now make them yellow. Make new maps and get our coders involved more in thinking up new ideas.
 
iSlapHoes said:
1. Change the sprites,
2. Change the maps,
3. Like you said , we came up with things way before Nexon , such as the EXP gatch.

Doesn't changing the server rates count?

All I'm saying , change the color of the sprites , such as if there were green earnings before we can now make them yellow. Make new maps and get our coders involved more in thinking up new ideas.
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Lol it's not even allowed to change the wz's anyways

@devon Who reads these tos? In our Tos nexon is not allowed to take a look in our pserver are they listening , no
 
mertjuh said:
Lol it's not even allowed to change the wz's anyways

@devon Who reads these tos? In our Tos nexon is not allowed to take a look in our pserver are they listening , no
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There is a big difference between a ToS saying certain people can't look at a website, and a ToS stating you can not tamper with copyrighted files with a signature extension.
 
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