FlyFF Section Discussion Thread

[sinan92]

Lol IHXFRYZZ already has a v6 server
Why dont you guys just join his server instead o-o

 

[spikensbror]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Yes, but he's running the Rune files which are VERY incomplete.
This was supposed to be open-source. A "community" project, but it's because of that mentality everyone leaves.
"We already have the official files so why help develop an emulator?". -.-

 

[FrostElite]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Yes, but he's running the Rune files which are VERY incomplete.
This was supposed to be open-source. A "community" project, but it's because of that mentality everyone leaves.
"We already have the official files so why help develop an emulator?". -.-

You being a veteran to this section should know that we never had and will never be able to have a "community" project lol

 

[Dell Honne]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

You being a veteran to this section should know that we never had and will never be able to have a "community" project lol

Maybe we will if everyone grew up already and stopped acting so immature. Like really, have you noticed the overall FlyFF private server community? It's just HACK after HACK and DoS after DoS, It's almost IMPOSSIBLE to host a server without the constant worry that if you get too popular, someone will definitely hack your server and delete all your hard work.

In my opinion, that is the TRUE definition of a childish and irresponsible community. But what can you do? There are no good role models out there anymore.

 

[Blackbox]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Maybe we will if everyone grew up already and stopped acting so immature. Like really, have you noticed the overall FlyFF private server community? It's just HACK after HACK and DoS after DoS, It's almost IMPOSSIBLE to host a server without the constant worry that if you get too popular, someone will definitely hack your server and delete all your hard work.

In my opinion, that is the TRUE definition of a childish and irresponsible community. But what can you do? There are no good role models out there anymore.

The last of the Good role models have either left or just stop contributing.

It's sad really. We used to have multiple projects going on here at once before all this official file bullshit. There was a couple v12 C++/C# emu's along with some v6 C++/C# projects... and not that it's worth mentioning but even an AutoIT server... LOL.

I got the Caali's files banned the second time around here with my thread. And then everyone cried and wanted at least Rev1. Then the Fame files came, and it went completely downhill from there. Now we have Fame files PLUS every version since. It's ridiculous.

 

[Dell Honne]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

The last of the Good role models have either left or just stop contributing.

It's sad really. We used to have multiple projects going on here at once before all this official file bullshit. There was a couple v12 C++/C# emu's along with some v6 C++/C# projects... and not that it's worth mentioning but even an AutoIT server... LOL.

I got the Caali's files banned the second time around here with my thread. And then everyone cried and wanted at least Rev1. Then the Fame files came, and it went completely downhill from there. Now we have Fame files PLUS every version since. It's ridiculous.

Well i hope projects come back eventually, it wouldn't be a bad idea in my opinion. Maybe if emulators come back, the official files might possibly be banned from forums. Also, banning Caali files was the right thing to do. They weren't even made to be developed and barely anyone had the source for it.

 

[funkynicco]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Well i hope projects come back eventually, it wouldn't be a bad idea in my opinion. Maybe if emulators come back, the official files might possibly be banned from forums. Also, banning Caali files was the right thing to do. They weren't even made to be developed and barely anyone had the source for it.

They wont come back, all of my buddies who still work on flyff have stopped contributing here.

I'm even currently programming a v5 server project for fun, but then again, since this is not actually an emulator-development forum, neither help nor any files will be released by me, because the only ones who will have use for it (or just want it because they want more stuff for no reason AKA leecher) are .. leechers.
But I will probably share the server along with the developers on my msn who still actually develope emulators. That does not include website developers, I'm talking about guys like GlaphanKing, Aki, BBim, Duotone, Divinepunition, Exos all of which as made an actual change to the flyff emulator development scene...
Edit: Adidishen left out because he does not work on flyff scene anymore

Yeah, the official files really did bring this section to the ground, but then again, removing it, will not really put back the need for emulators, all the people interested in a flyff server will most likely choose the official server that works as expected hence not learning how to actually create or develope on an emulator.

GlaphanKing, best wishes for your success in creating Project Glaphan, and just give me a private message if you need help. :tongue:

 

[Dell Honne]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Weeell, me and Reimniess plan to change some stuff around, we also plan to do some other stuff but i will not reveal yet.

On topic: I haven't seen Glaphan in a while.

 

[Blackbox]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

On topic: I haven't seen Glaphan in a while.

Not really on topic, but he's got 2 new mods here now. He's prolly taking a breather.

 

[Dell Honne]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Not really on topic, but he's got 2 new mods here now. He's prolly taking a breather.

It's close enough on topic. And i guess he deserves a breather. But the only moderation logs I've seen in this section for the past week/weeks were done by DarkAngel.

 

[divinepunition]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Well in fact i have released last version of osAFlyff source in the release section. It was well advanced and who tryied to continue it ?

I show to people that even osaFlyff could work with v15 file... No change...

I try to show to people that if they stop to just hack and leech they could make some good development tool, like a better converter, chinese model converter or more....

nothing changed...

You will never see any emulator anymore while official files are around...
Even if you completely ban those files, people will just leave this forum to go to another...

like nicco i continue to work to my own project now and stop to work with this community.

I will continue to work on morpheus and all the others tools i'm developping, but i will not share anymore my work with a community, like you said, that just do hack and Denial of Service...

 

[Reimniess]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

divine keep in mind several things though yes it was sad to see that no one has publicly tried continueing you can't be too harsh considering that

It's difficult to work with code that is not your own,

most people fear messing up and getting laughed at,

and that there are almost no C# programmers left in the section other then spike who migh I add just recently started using things from OSA for his C# v6 project and has already been making progress, and just recently made a return with his java flyff project he plans to get started and heard that masius has plans to work on a java project himself

me and Dell Honne have plans aswell in the works

don't under estimate the community the old days are over

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You being a veteran to this section should know that we never had and will never be able to have a "community" project lol

it's on my todo list to prove you wrong u_u

 

[funkynicco]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

Weeell, me and Reimniess plan to change some stuff around, we also plan to do some other stuff but i will not reveal yet.

Allright, sounds good.

On topic: I haven't seen Glaphan in a while.

Yeah, I haven't seen him either in a long time, he usually comes and post sometime.

 

[Blackbox]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

You also have to remember while yes, the official files did kill what little of a community we had here.

Everyone who was working on a project that took it away from the community killed it that much more.

Now instead of having a choice between decent emu and official files, there were only official files.

Everyone who ever posted anything here is at fault for this section going.

The leechers for leeching everything, and the devs for taking what little hope this community had away.

 

[Dell Honne]

Re: [Dev] Project Glaphan - v6 Emulator

You also have to remember while yes, the official files did kill what little of a community we had here.

Everyone who was working on a project that took it away from the community killed it that much more.

Now instead of having a choice between decent emu and official files, there were only official files.

Everyone who ever posted anything here is at fault for this section going.

The leechers for leeching everything, and the devs for taking what little hope this community had away.

Yep, Blame the community not the files. Your completely correct. It's not the files fault, it's the community itself that went bad. Thats why me and Reimniess plan to bring the FlyFF section back up to it's former glory.

 

[Dell Honne]

Got something to say about the section? Just want to let loose and chat with everyone? Then just keep posting here, this is where post when you have something to say about the section itself. You know those long posts in the Glaphan Project thread? Well lets continue the chat here instead of spamming that thread.

 

[Reimniess]

*claps* much better, but don't start flaming ok constructive-criticism no random ranting

 

[ryuchao009]

I think if about 5-10 dedicated people on the section got together and put their minds to it, a good emulator could come out. It's not all about the coding aspect, there has to be bug testers too. If the emu gets too much leecher spam here on rz, make a separate forums for it (freeforums.org works wonders lol) and continue it from there.

The big problem everybody misses is this: the maturity level of the section. The majority of the people here don't want to work for anything, they want to copy-paste and go. That's why everybody wanted the official files so bad, they don't have to wait for bug fixes, they don't have to help bug test, and they have the "same thing" eflyff has with no blood sweat and tears to get there.

Maybe emulators do stand a chance, but only if the people coding them ignore the community and choose to build it because it's fun for them. They don't need to worry about fixing bug xyz unless they don't have something more important they want the emulator to do first. All the previous projects died because the developers got fed up with the whining and bullshit (why doesn't it do xyz, why can't it be as easy as Caali files to set up, why isn't xyz fixed yet, why should I have to help bug test, etc...) and thus decided they'd keep their work to themselves since the people here didn't appreciate it. So....everybody be patient and maybe some good emulators will result.

 

[Dell Honne]

I think if about 5-10 dedicated people on the section got together and put their minds to it, a good emulator could come out. It's not all about the coding aspect, there has to be bug testers too. If the emu gets too much leecher spam here on rz, make a separate forums for it (freeforums.org works wonders lol) and continue it from there.

The big problem everybody misses is this: the maturity level of the section. The majority of the people here don't want to work for anything, they want to copy-paste and go. That's why everybody wanted the official files so bad, they don't have to wait for bug fixes, they don't have to help bug test, and they have the "same thing" eflyff has with no blood sweat and tears to get there.

Maybe emulators do stand a chance, but only if the people coding them ignore the community and choose to build it because it's fun for them. They don't need to worry about fixing bug xyz unless they don't have something more important they want the emulator to do first. All the previous projects died because the developers got fed up with the whining and bullshit (why doesn't it do xyz, why can't it be as easy as Caali files to set up, why isn't xyz fixed yet, why should I have to help bug test, etc...) and thus decided they'd keep their work to themselves since the people here didn't appreciate it. So....everybody be patient and maybe some good emulators will result.

I agree, and speaking of which, i might speak with MentaL about a cannot download if under etc posts for this section, because that would help the leecher spam. Or i will discuss an alternate way to stop leechers. Of course if this does happen, spammers will be created, but that's what us moderators are here for right? If none of the solutions can be made, i will create a small development forums and name it "RaGEZONE FlyFF Developments", In which all of the newest emu's and developments can be posted to prevent leechers, and will need some people to help brainstorm a way to prevent leechers.

 

[BGxApixen]

It's the community thats making this community so fuckin bad.

WE, yes, WE, as a community, should join together and help code, not tare each other down like SOME PEOPLE(Leakers, and the wannabe hackers).
DoS doesnt make you better then everyone else. Makes you selfish that you can't take another server taking the glory.

As of right not, gtop100.com is frozen in the stats.
People atm are number 5 and that will stay that way until gtop finsihes the solution.
Anyone who tries to DoS the servers that are 1-10, FAIL, cause those are the good servers.
Can't take the heat, and wanna hack a server? Go shoot yourself. Don't take it out on other servers that wanna bring joy to other people such as Demon, TeaIX, Clockwars, Musara, or any server that wants you help improve their server for the players, not compatition. If you disagree with this, GTFO, cause this is all 100% TRUE! Still wanna hack servers? Go shoot yourself, then you can try. This is a development section, NOT a hackers world. Hackers don't belong here. Leakers dont belong here. Wannabes, and developers belong here.

Down with hackers that can't take the heat.