Section Crackdown

[GlaphanKing]

i see. Since you explained it that way, then I agree with you. One or two templates is plenty. they all look the same to me anyway or they are ripped from WoW pservers or whatever, lol!

 

[spikensbror]

Thank you.

 

[Improved]

Yeah right, too much work for everyone right?

Not at all, the section gets a few releases a week. Maybe we should enforce some rules on the quality of the release, but is mod approval the way to go?

 

[spikensbror]

Approval team anyone?
And it does work for the MU section so I don't see why it wouldn't work here.

 

[Improved]

Approval team anyone?
And it does work for the MU section so I don't see why it wouldn't work here.

It does sound like an idea that would work, and then have some official threads to keep the number of bad quality releases down.

Official source snippets thread, it would be a pain to get them all together, but it would remove all the threads on very small simple things which dosen't require an entire thread for itself. It would not be permitted to post in the thread unless you want to contribute to the thread, and when the snippet is added to the thread, the post is deleted. The thread Dell made died because it was a pain to look through 72+ pages for snippets.

Official source release thread, RaGEZONE certified. One for each version.

Official precompiled bins, RaGEZONE certified. One for each version.

 

[spikensbror]

Sounds good.

 

[Jelle]

I've only seen comments with "section is going less good", but to me it seems that it has increased.
We've got a new Moderator, new Sections and some new developers on the section.

Zero tolerance for noob questions ain't a good idea, cause 1% of all the noobs turn out to be developers.

So lets use the word "improving" instead of "reviving"?=)

 

[spikensbror]

That's 1% we can spare, I mean people that don't know how to read instructions and don't have the knowledge to use executable files don't belong in a development forum.

 

[Jelle]

Not having that 1% means we are not getting new developers, and old ones will leave = dead flyff.

 

[spikensbror]

Developers = People who know what they are doing.
You are missing the point, if people fail to read guides, fail to use the search button, fail to google, etc, they don't have anything to do here until they learn to do stuff themselves.
Most of the GOOD developers in this section began somewhere else, learning from their own experiences.
And even then, those GOOD developer who began here did not get the majority of help on this forum.

 

[Jelle]

Even though that might be correct, some people need some help in the beginning in order to get better and higher, and im saying this out of experience.

 

[spikensbror]

The help section is for development related issues still and not helping some people that are like "HOW I MAKE SERVEEER I COMPILE AND GET ERROR HOW I FIX".

 

[Dell Honne]

The help section is for development related issues still and not helping some people that are like "HOW I MAKE SERVEEER I COMPILE AND GET ERROR HOW I FIX".

Need help or willing to help? Flyff help has all the answers.

I don't think it's just for development issues. Though I would rather suggest people use the search button more. Pretty sure 90% of help threads posted nowadays have already been posted in the help section or are stuck in the Archives.

I think having moderators approving "proper" release threads would just piss other members off.

"Your release isn't good enough to be posted here."

 

[darkwalker247]

I don't understand what you kids keep bitching about, are you too blind to realize it's not anyones fault, neither the moderators - nor the sections.
The main problem is the fact that there's a VERY low amount of people ready to contribute for this section. I mean face it, how many serious developers are out there on the scene? 3, 4?
And how many of them are ready to contribute their hard work to some community that's just full of leechers? Exactly...


This section was, is and will be dead, deal with it.

 

[MisterKid]

In my opinion, this section has turned away from everything it's supposed to be.
It's not a development section anymore, it's a "COME HERE FOR FLYFF FILES AND SETUP" section.
The help section is not nearly related to development, all is just stupid questions about how to setup by people not doing any kind of development.

If anyone wants this section to become what it has potential to be, I suggest that you instate zero-tolerance on this kind of stuff.
Help section should be development related, Release section should have REAL releases that adds to the game and not re-releases, etc.

It's sad looking back to the caali days, 3 different emulators where developed and caali's files where thriving and destroyed.
Then everyone just had it I guess.

I blame poor management of the section. *cough*modsdosomethingpls*cough*

This is very relevant to the section and if you want to delete the thread, give me a perfectly good reason why.

I agree.
Its more help/leech then development.

 

[Adler]

That's 1% we can spare, I mean people that don't know how to read instructions and don't have the knowledge to use executable files don't belong in a development forum.

I was once like that. Back when Fame was the only Flyff server I didn't even know how to download it, where to look, what to do when I downloaded it, etc. When I joined Ragezone it took me days to figure out how to set up a Caali server and where to look.

Now I work for one of the top 3 Flyff servers and I know all there is to know about servers and map development. So before you say they don't belong, try to realize that not everybody is going to magically be able to run a private server within day one. Some people find this forum when they already know how to code, manage databases or work with servers, others find this server straight from playing Flyff and having no talent.

Give people chances, that one person who can't read a topic or fix bugs can turn out as the best developer in this community.

 

[ObjectOriented]

No one came into the world knowing windows api

 

[Detox]

Exhibit A:

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LOLED.

Just a hilarious photo.

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Also, we're not getting any way with this. Everyone is to stuck'd up with their own opinion.

 

[The Hot One]

Give people chances, that one person who can't read a topic or fix bugs can turn out as the best developer in this community.

Mhm. Not hating or anything but did u just call yourself the "best developer"
:w00t:?

 

[Adler]

Mhm. Not hating or anything but did u just call yourself the "best developer"
:w00t:?

No, I said people can become the best developer. I suck ;-;