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Re: [Development] Project VANADIS

LOL now that's funny ****. If this ever gets cracked i suggest the person who has done so to only release to developers. To be honest o hope it gets cracked and the good developers create something unique and special putting gala and aeonsoft in the **** for being so stupid. If the source ever got released then it would be like 50x releases in the release section for "new" emulators with suttle differences. Good luck you guys. I suppose eventually it would get released anyway through being sold/given to the wrong person.

It probably will. There's always that one idiot who thinks he's "helping" the community by giving leechers something they can't handle. It would be nice to see some devs get this and make some awesome additions to flyff with this though.

TyRoXx said:
My proposal (or what I would do in your place): Release it to the public before it leaks somehow. Everyone will benefit from this solution.

Only the leechers benefit from that, and most of them are too stupid to open a .zip file. If it gets leaked, all the devs /ragehate the person that leaks it. If it's distributed properly, it shouldn't ever get leaked so only people who know what they're doing will have the files. That'll keep 1,000+ servers from popping up from script kiddies who googled "how to compile a program in Visual studio 2008".
 
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It probably will. There's always that one idiot who thinks he's "helping" the community by giving leechers something they can't handle. It would be nice to see some devs get this and make some awesome additions to flyff with this though.



Only the leechers benefit from that, and most of them are too stupid to open a .zip file. If it gets leaked, all the devs /ragehate the person that leaks it. If it's distributed properly, it shouldn't ever get leaked so only people who know what they're doing will have the files. That'll keep 1,000+ servers from popping up from script kiddies who googled "how to compile a program in Visual studio 2008".
Exactly. Releasing to the public would be a fetal mistake. It will be released eventually i can pretty much guarantee it. Its all about the glory of the flyff section. Give me thanks plox... Whats the deal with this **** right?
What's the problem? You don't have to play there or pay any attention to them.

You just don't understand what that **** will cause.
 
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Well, like i said, I'm not releasing any of my stuff for leechers. Would be really stupid if all this hard work translating these stuff just go right into the hands of a few lazy people. Probably the same thing with those Private Servers out there right now too. They would just leech cola and the neuz source and BAM! all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks. I'm already tired of seeing official files servers out there, i don't feel like making them 10x better.
 
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Well, like i said, I'm not releasing any of my stuff for leechers. Would be really stupid if all this hard work translating these stuff just go right into the hands of a few lazy people. Probably the same thing with those Private Servers out there right now too. They would just leech cola and the neuz source and BAM! all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks. I'm already tired of seeing official files servers out there, i don't feel like making them 10x better.

Exactly why give people **** that they don't have to work for to make "easy" money. I wouldn't exactly say all just ones that know a little programming. Well i suppose google is there for all the tards.
Explain it to me
You really thing releasing the source is what the flyff p server community needs right now? If you do they your arrogant.
 
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Well, like i said, I'm not releasing any of my stuff for leechers. Would be really stupid if all this hard work translating these stuff just go right into the hands of a few lazy people. Probably the same thing with those Private Servers out there right now too. They would just leech cola and the neuz source and BAM! all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks. I'm already tired of seeing official files servers out there, i don't feel like making them 10x better.

Exactly! You just hit the nail on the head. People need to work for what they want or do without, something this section has never understood. If they all had the source, the binaries would get leaked and people would be leeching 1000x better servers they didn't have to put any effort into.
 
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Well, like i said, I'm not releasing any of my stuff for leechers. Would be really stupid if all this hard work translating these stuff just go right into the hands of a few lazy people. Probably the same thing with those Private Servers out there right now too. They would just leech cola and the neuz source and BAM! all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks. I'm already tired of seeing official files servers out there, i don't feel like making them 10x better.

Tbqh, releasing of any source won't do much for leechers. Because they are just that, leechers. So the servers won't get much better if any at all. Simply because very few of the servers have anyone with any programming experience.

They'd have to wait for someone with programming experience to improve upon and release the improved binaries.
 
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Tbqh, releasing of any source won't do much for leechers. Because they are just that, leechers. So the servers won't get much better if any at all. Simply because very few of the servers have anyone with any programming experience.

They'd have to wait for someone with programming experience to improve upon and release the improved binaries.

Sadly, I can already think of someone who would be stupid enough to do that for them.
 
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> all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks

Are you developing for fun or just for personal profit?
 
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Tbqh, releasing of any source won't do much for leechers. Because they are just that, leechers. So the servers won't get much better if any at all. Simply because very few of the servers have anyone with any programming experience.

They'd have to wait for someone with programming experience to improve upon and release the improved binaries.

True but if some actually use their brain they have their "own" emulator "programmed" by their selves. Just simple things would probably be edited which could be done through asm and be like look at how "pro" i am. This section is just about "me me me" its sad really, because there is quite a few people that have the knowledge that could produce something really good. This is getting off topic you should have never mentioned you add the source.
Sadly, I can already think of someone who would be stupid enough to do that for them.

*Cough* Serus for the glory.
> all the servers just got 100000x better, so no thanks

Are you developing for fun or just for personal profit?

Maybe to actually make a better community if that is possible.
 
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True but if some actually use their brain they have their "own" emulator "programmed" by their selves. Just simple things would probably be edited which could be done through asm and be like look at how "pro" i am. This section is just about "me me me" its sad really, because there is quite a few people that have the knowledge that could produce something really good. This is getting off topic you should have never mentioned you add the source.


*Cough* Serus for the glory.

You weren't supposed to say the name :ott1:

Sad, but true. That pretty much sums up this section. The people that know what they're doing don't want to give something to a community that will pick it apart just to change the credits and claim it for their own. Then those leechers will go around claiming how "pro" they are. And yeah this thread got way off topic lol.

On topic: How's the project coming along?
 
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1. I am developing for the community.
2. Profit? Don't make me laugh, I'm nothing like those people, my team is doing this for their own fun because we love FlyFF and felt like doing this project.
3. The project is coming along pretty well. We're trying to take our time so that we don't make any fatal mistakes, we're also trying to figure out what else should be inside the emulator. I also have a few people working on a new anti-hack system.
 
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You weren't supposed to say the name :ott1:

Sad, but true. That pretty much sums up this section. The people that know what they're doing don't want to give something to a community that will pick it apart just to change the credits and claim it for their own. Then those leechers will go around claiming how "pro" they are. And yeah this thread got way off topic lol.

On topic: How's the project coming along?

I didn't i coughed ;). To be honest the "community" no longer exist in my opinion. This is why i don't use the word "coding" its the new word for leachers for doing something that they didn't. Plus i never used the word anyway but still lol. Little sad i know but i'm not reducing my self to their level. I quit the flyff scene like a month ago but soon came back because there is so much improvements that could be made to the game and i want to help. (Help meaning the players not the leachers.) If only gala and aeonsoft could go back to the days where security didn't matter as much, because a lot of people was unaware of these things, but with search engines information is available to everyone. Thus creating script kiddies. If only we could go back to v6.
1. I am developing for the community.
3. The project is coming along pretty well. We're trying to take our time so that we don't make any fatal mistakes, we're also trying to figure out what else should be inside the emulator. I also have a few people working on a new anti-hack system.
Nice to hear.
 
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This is so exciting.
Can't wait to see what you guys do. It's about time the FlyFF community got started again.
 
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Tbqh, releasing of any source won't do much for leechers. Because they are just that, leechers. So the servers won't get much better if any at all. Simply because very few of the servers have anyone with any programming experience.

They'd have to wait for someone with programming experience to improve upon and release the improved binaries.

You'd be surprised at what leechers can do. They may be leechers but for sure they aren't stupid.
 
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You'd be surprised at what leechers can do. They may be leechers but for sure they aren't stupid.

Some aren't. most are. The ones that can do somethings use common sense which is rare these days.
This is so exciting.
Can't wait to see what you guys do. It's about time the FlyFF community got started again.

Lets hope for the best.
Flyff section is always full of drama.
 
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You'd be surprised at what leechers can do. They may be leechers but for sure they aren't stupid.

When you've been around the Flyff scene as long as I have, you'd know the majority of OUR leechers are pretty dumb. I can't speak for any other sections leechers but ours don't have the proper know how to do much. Most of them have troubles setting up the official files, let alone compiling anything. Though if one figures it out they're most likely to spread it among the rest.
 
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Sad, but true. That pretty much sums up this section. The people that know what they're doing don't want to give something to a community that will pick it apart just to change the credits and claim it for their own. Then those leechers will go around claiming how "pro" they are. And yeah this thread got way off topic lol.
No, the quote above sums up this section. Have you ever noticed there are not halve as many "leechers" as you haters? You have discouraged any normal user who just wanted to play Flyff. You always criticise those "leechers" not noticing that you are not less egoistic. You want to keep everything for yourself because anyone around you could be a "leecher": A noob who is opening scary noob servers which are so dangerous for your honor. Why do you care about noobs "stealing" your work? If you really do, you should not have released it in any way. Like those laughable "emulators" called Osa or Rhisis which go closed source because of a single person treating Osa like his own work. You bootlickers are only contributing to any stupid project by spamming "Good luck" in threads like this one. You do not even see the difference between a promising project and a fail. Most of you do not know anything about programming (hmm, just like the "leechers"), but act like being Stroustrup himself. You are not respecting other's points of view because you cannot undergird your arguments with facts. Leechers have to be wrong because they are leechers. Noobs are noobish because they are noobs. Everyone who uses someone's work is a leecher. You forget that this is a public community for exchanging thoughts and - of course - work. It only works if someone contributes by releasing something. But you cannot expect that everyone has something to release. Most of the people are just consumers - and children. You are forgetting that Flyff is a game for children. They do not want to damage anyone, they want to have fun. And they try out things. They make mistakes like stealing other's work, but that does not make them necessarily "leechers". Maybe they do not know how much work was behind an emulator. Did I mention that most of them are just children? If you only changed your attitude, everything here would be easier. A real developer is happy when someone uses his work. If the users are ungrateful, they are. Developing is not about receiving "thank you" or "good luck" as often as possible. If your work is really good, you will get compliments from the right people. Why do you want so much appreciation from the "leechers" you hate secretly? You should be above begging for appreciation if you are no noob.

Of course you won't understand my point of view. You can pick at me now, but that won't change the truth from being the truth.
 
Re: [Development] Project VANADIS

Still I don't think its smart to release it (ofc. I also want to have it for information)
For the people who want to have it search it I'm already trying to.
 
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